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How much poundage are u guys squatting for reps? BB's not Powerlifters

How much squat weight for reps 10-12

  • 2 plates each side

    Votes: 47 31.3%
  • 3 plates each side

    Votes: 66 44.0%
  • 4 plates each side

    Votes: 13 8.7%
  • 4 or more plates each side

    Votes: 23 15.3%

  • Total voters
    150

shape

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how many plates are you guys throwing on for reps- i am interested strictly in adding size to my quads-i could care less about how much i can squat or how strong i am
 
315 for 10 deep reps is a good set right now. Makes a huge difference if you're going down all of the way:

I've seen kids do sets of 10-12 with 315, only going down to about a half squat. I've shown them how to do it (all the way down), and they can't even get ONE rep with 275!

Lets face it, if you couldn't lower the bar to your chest in a bench press, then you wouldn't count the lift. Same with squats

I can squat 135 for 50 deep reps AFTER doing the heavy stuff - it's a fucking trip , believe me. 225 for 25 reps is a bastard too.

A great way to get used to high squatting is to have one workout a week for 5 weeks straight where you just do squats: 20 sets of 20 reps - maybe with just the bar. After that, you have the groove so well that you will just feel the muscles working and not be out of breath.
 
i used to completely centre my training on squats. this cycle, i am really switching things up and squats are only utilized every 3 weeks or so. when i focused on mostly squats, i worked up to 405 for 6 reps
 
Let me ask this.....how do you strengthen your squat? I'm barely going down 3/4 of the way for 215 a couple of times.......My legs seemed stronger in highschool for some reason. Thanks to all who reply.
 
You will not believe how much of a base you will build for squatting by doing the 20 sets of 20 reps routine for one month. You will need just the empty bar. You will not lose any strength, you will be stronger coming back than you have ever been.
 
I started a new routine a few months ago that is working really well. Warm up with 135 for a set of 15-20...real slow. Then bang out ten sets of ten with 225 with a minute rest in between sets. Just do them really slow and go ass to the ground. Finish up with a few sets of stop/pause extensions. It'll make you puke.
 
i never do 10-12 personally, but i hit 4 plates occasionally

personally i prefer the leg press. (no im not slack, put 25 plates on that bastard and see how slack you feel)
 
GoldenDelicious said:
i never do 10-12 personally, but i hit 4 plates occasionally

personally i prefer the leg press. (no im not slack, put 25 plates on that bastard and see how slack you feel)

you have an almost 1200 lb leg press? Youre legs must be fuckin huge.

I can hit 3 plates for 8 reps on squat( Im 6'5'" with crucnhing knees, so Im pretty happy with it)

musketeer/superdawgy: is squats all you do for tat particular workout? I ask because I know if i did 10-20 sets of squats< id be totally cashed out afterwards...
 
are we calling a legit squat ass parralell to knees -not above not below-anything below that your working your ass not quads
 
4 Plates!!!......I believe in pyramid sets so go 2 1/2 plates and then 4 plates 6-8 reps, 5-8 sets and then 3 plates for 2-3 sets and so forth...and it's off to the sled, etc.......I could go higher, but it's not about weight as much as it is about stressing my quads, and I train alone.

SQ-
 
I usually get 455 for 6-7, seems like I hit a plateu though. My bench won't go up as long as my squat is getting stronger and vise-versa, wtf???
 
Sir-Que said:
4 Plates!!!......I believe in pyramid sets so go 2 1/2 plates and then 4 plates 6-8 reps, 5-8 sets and then 3 plates for 2-3 sets and so forth...and it's off to the sled, etc.......I could go higher, but it's not about weight as much as it is about stressing my quads, and I train alone.

SQ-


i agree SQ- i too train alone and i always pyramid-but like i said how much is enough weigth when ones goal is adding size to the quads- again I could careless less about putting up weight-it does not matter to me I have no one to impress with my strength

for example- i had a knee problem(meniscus) so i took some time off from leg training except for extensions- i am looking to again compete in June of this year and my quads are seriously lagging behind my upper body-so i wanted to do a quick 3 month blitz and bring the quads up a few inches if possible

i started squatting yesterday

1 plate warm up for 20 reps
2 plates 18 reps
went up to three plates figured should start to feel heavy-( it didn't) 15 reps
so threw on 4 plates and said i am just going to lift it off rack and see how it feels-did fuckin 10 reps- no problem-no knee wraps-no belt-no spot

question is do i go higher or just do more sets -less weight??? again just looking to wake up quads????
 
do more weight if you want to add mass because you are overloading your muscle with heavy weight. I would say that most people lag in their upper part of their upper leg so many will benifit from really deep lungs. My legs grow crazy after doing lunges after squats, sled, and exts! You'll also find that that excercies will cut you up too. My strength has also improved from just doing 3 sets of lunges.
 
shape said:
i agree SQ- i too train alone and i always pyramid-but like i said how much is enough weigth when ones goal is adding size to the quads- again I could careless less about putting up weight-it does not matter to me I have no one to impress with my strength

for example- i had a knee problem(meniscus) so i took some time off from leg training except for extensions- i am looking to again compete in June of this year and my quads are seriously lagging behind my upper body-so i wanted to do a quick 3 month blitz and bring the quads up a few inches if possible

i started squatting yesterday

1 plate warm up for 20 reps
2 plates 18 reps
went up to three plates figured should start to feel heavy-( it didn't) 15 reps
so threw on 4 plates and said i am just going to lift it off rack and see how it feels-did fuckin 10 reps- no problem-no knee wraps-no belt-no spot

question is do i go higher or just do more sets -less weight??? again just looking to wake up quads????
The key to deciding whether or not to go up probably has more to do with your upper and lower back than your quads. I'm in the same boat in that I can bottom-out about 6-8 good reps (parallel, but NOT past parallel) at 415 and can even squeeze out 8 reps at 495 (5 plates / side) getting 1-2 inches from parallel. The problem is, a lot of your support muscles (i.e. groin, lower back, upper back) have to be ready to support the weight. You may be able to squat 500 easily, but if you accidentally rock forward or to the side by even some almost imperceptable distance (i.e. 1-2 inches), you may be instantly drawing on support muscles that aren't ready.

I'm sitting stiff-backed in a chair today because I couldn't get the leg pump I wanted from squats at 415 x 8... so I just haaaad to try 495 x 8. My legs are barely sore, and my lower and upper back is on FIRE. I'm pushing today's workout back one day due to the soreness.

Thanks,
 
Ya, my lower back is pretty weak, I geuss if I strengthened it a lot, my squat should skyrocket up to like 525 for 8
 
carlsky said:
Ya, my lower back is pretty weak, I geuss if I strengthened it a lot, my squat should skyrocket up to like 525 for 8
I'm going to cap my squats at 405 for a while and do more with box squats, lunges, good mornings and deadlift first. Truth be told, the 495 sets are more about 1) Kicking your workout parter's ass and 2) Impressing the hottie who's streaching on the exercise mats that face directly onto the squat cage!

I dinged my back really badly about 12 weeks ago, and got a reminder of what that felt like yesterday. I'd like to think "lesson learned", but i'm sure the right amount of trash-talk from my workout partner combined with a drop-dead gorgeous girl watching will make me do something stupid again. The hell of it is... i'm OFF right now and should be smarter than that.
 
ceo said:
and how often has that gotten you laid?
I agree with that... it's not just an issue of getting laid though. I'll try to dig-up the article (it was in Flex or MD or something that quoted the study ...). Basically they did bloodwork on males then sent them in for an interview to answer some questions. Some were attractive female interviewers and some where not. Post-interview, they did another set of bloodwork. The free test levels of the males that dealt with attractive interviewers were 30% higher. I'll try to dig-up the reference -- it's a good one!

It varies wildly from person-to-person I suspect. For my workout partner (yeah, he's straight) it has no effect. For me, for some reason, it seems to work. Even though i'm a happly married 37 year old with 3 fantastic kids, i'm tempted to find a hottie female workout partner just to see if the surge is sustainable.

Thanks,
 
CNovaJason said:
Let me ask this.....how do you strengthen your squat? I'm barely going down 3/4 of the way for 215 a couple of times.......My legs seemed stronger in highschool for some reason. Thanks to all who reply.
You're asking this question in the wrong forum. I don't mean that in a correcting way, I mean you're going to get bad info here. Check the powerlifting forum to get your lifts up.
 
Yossarian2000 said:
musketeer/superdawgy: is squats all you do for tat particular workout? I ask because I know if i did 10-20 sets of squats< id be totally cashed out afterwards...

I do several sets of extensions after, but thats it.
 
When on, my squats tend to be around 405 for 6, 425 for 3-4. I never go for singles or doubles. This is when I weigh about 190-195. When off, I stick to around 315-335 for 10 reps or so. I really think I'm gonna do a few workouts based entirely on squats though. I did that one time, just walked in, warmed up, and did about 12 sets of squats. Pyramided up to heavy 3 reps, and all the way down to 20+ breathing squats with 185. My GOD did that make my legs sore, but my lower back was pretty good. Gotta do that again!
 
Personal best yesterday was 405x6. I'm going to stick to 405 now and just perfect my form -- i.e., get used to 405 and strengthen my legs, not by # of reps, but quality of reps.
 
Wow! Everybody here must have like 30 inch quads. Gotta love the internet. I squat 325 for 6 deep, slow, controlled reps. I have 27 inch upper quads and 22 inch just above the knee. I happen to know that I have bigger quads than most people I encounter(juicers included) so if everybody is truly pushing the poundages posted, than props to you because you're legs are probably bigger than needsize's or quadsweep's.
 
I have an unusual structure for squats. I have a really long torso, and very short legs.

This makes my squat lower than most.

Lately I haven't been squatting much. I've been doing box squats trying to work on explosive leg power. 335x6 or so.
 
I've decided to institute a new rule. If you can't post a pic or video of your huge lifts you can't post the numbers. Sounds fair?
 
genarr3 said:
I've decided to institute a new rule. If you can't post a pic or video of your huge lifts you can't post the numbers. Sounds fair?

LoL. See avatar.

Also, numbers really shouldn't matter. Unless your are a plifter.
 
psychedout said:
LoL. See avatar.

Also, numbers really shouldn't matter. Unless your are a plifter.
I believe your numbers. Actually I believe quite a few numbers posted. But we have too many variables involved. We have the bend the knee's 1/4" and call it a squat and that sort of nonsense. So we sort of agree. Don't post numbers. If you can prove it cool, otherwise keep it to your self.
 
genarr3 said:
I've decided to institute a new rule. If you can't post a pic or video of your huge lifts you can't post the numbers. Sounds fair?

After going back through the thread, i haven't seen any numbers that look too far out of whack. If you weigh 215-225 you should be able to get at least a couple reps with 405. The highest i have seen here was Carl saying that he could get 455 for 7-8. I'm not doubting that he can, i'm just saying that that was about the best anyone has posted. I have said this in the past and will openly admit to it, my squat is not my best lift and i rarely go past 315 anymore because at 31 my back isn't what it used to be. I put a tape to my quads this morning and was suprised to find that i'm only carrying 25" wheels (around the largest part). But with a 28" inseam, they look bigger than most.
 
Well to be honest my legs are my weakest part, gonna be my target area next week. Im kinda interested in the 20x20 set mentioned. I squat 180kg Parellel to floor for around 4sets of 8.
 
genarr3 said:
I've decided to institute a new rule. If you can't post a pic or video of your huge lifts you can't post the numbers. Sounds fair?


genarr - i do not think anyone is talking real big squat numbers here-like it was stated if you weigh between 215-230 you should be able to do a few reps with 405- as i stated in my opening post i really could care less if i am the weakest guy in the gym numbers wise-means nothing to me- i am looking for a sure fire 3 month program to add 2-3 inches to my quads-if indeed that is a possiblity at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
genarr3 said:
I believe your numbers. Actually I believe quite a few numbers posted. But we have too many variables involved. We have the bend the knee's 1/4" and call it a squat and that sort of nonsense. So we sort of agree. Don't post numbers. If you can prove it cool, otherwise keep it to your self.
I completely agree! I will post a pic in the next 2 weeks of my squats. I am totally behind genarr's post. I think people have a tendency to exaggerate their lifts. I'm not saying that everybody is doing that, I'm only saying that it seems strange that everybody is squatting over 405, it may be a coincidence but it seems odd nonetheless. I have seen time and again guys going into Golds or 24hr, throwing 3 or 4 plates on each side and only squatting a 1/4 to 1/2 of the way to parallel. Then these same guys go around bragging to anyone that will listen about these big poundages that they are lifting. I have seen that happen countless times. Once in a while I get the chance to call somebody on it. This kid had toothpick legs and was trying to tell me and my buddy about his 315 squat. I happened to walk in the next day when he had just started doing legs and asked him to show me. He puts on 3 plates and can barely even unrack it. Then he starts to go down and about 3 inches in, his legs buckle and he goes down like a sack of potatoes. Luckily the safety bars were in place. The guys that lie about their lifts aren't always kids, about 60% of the ones I catch doing it are 30+.
 
I would if I had any idea how to get a video clip of myself onto the computer. I'm not totally behind genarr's idea, but about 80%. If you're a plifter, prove it in video or shut up. If you're a bber though, as long as you're not boasting really impressive numbers you aren't required to prove it. I'm 185 right now, in a few weeks I'll be over 200lbs. If I saw I can bench 315 for 5, at 200lbs... that's easily believable. Now if I say I can put up 405 for an easy double at the same weight, that requires proof!
 
Guys... look at the poll though. This board's viewership *easily* peaks at 350-450+ people (which probably translates into 1,000 or even 1,500 active accounts). Then consider this... You're probably much less likely to vote in a poll like this (or even open the thread) if 135 is kicking your ass. Taking that all into consideration, the fact that only 21 guys have votes (at this time) that they do 315 (3 wheels/side) or more is pretty remarkable.

I'd think that in any serious gym (read: no leg warmers, geriatric patients or tennis wives) that at least 10% of the male, acvite members could get 3 wheels up for one rep with reasonably good form. In a hard-core gym, I bet that number spikes up to 35% or more.
 
musketeer said:
I can squat 135 for 50 deep reps AFTER doing the heavy stuff - it's a fucking trip , believe me. 225 for 25 reps is a bastard too.

You should check into a mental hospital, because you have to be clinically insane to squat 135 for 50. I did 3 sets of 135 for 20 after my heavy squats, and that was enough to get me sweating like mad and the heart racing.
 
shape said:
genarr - i do not think anyone is talking real big squat numbers here-like it was stated if you weigh between 215-230 you should be able to do a few reps with 405- as i stated in my opening post i really could care less if i am the weakest guy in the gym numbers wise-means nothing to me- i am looking for a sure fire 3 month program to add 2-3 inches to my quads-if indeed that is a possiblity at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

20-rep squats. enough said.

Take a weight that you normally do 10 reps with. After a few days off, do 20. Even if you have to take like 20 breaths between reps, get 20. One week later, do the same only with 5 or 10 lbs more.

repeat 10 more times.

Voila.

That said I have never ever in my life put over 300# on my back and squatted. I think I repped out at 295 once for AMRAP. I haven't gone over 225 in a long time. I just don't have the drive for it anymore. I've never been that strong.

How's that for honest?
 
shape said:
i agree SQ- i too train alone and i always pyramid-but like i said how much is enough weigth when ones goal is adding size to the quads- again I could careless less about putting up weight-it does not matter to me I have no one to impress with my strength

for example- i had a knee problem(meniscus) so i took some time off from leg training except for extensions- i am looking to again compete in June of this year and my quads are seriously lagging behind my upper body-so i wanted to do a quick 3 month blitz and bring the quads up a few inches if possible

i started squatting yesterday

1 plate warm up for 20 reps
2 plates 18 reps
went up to three plates figured should start to feel heavy-( it didn't) 15 reps
so threw on 4 plates and said i am just going to lift it off rack and see how it feels-did fuckin 10 reps- no problem-no knee wraps-no belt-no spot

question is do i go higher or just do more sets -less weight??? again just looking to wake up quads????

See how you feel tomorrow!
 
I use about 365-385 on my 10-set.I hate dudes with tiny ass legs that go down like not even a quarter of the way down and act like there all strong and badass.

Go down below parallel or don't even bother, I say.
 
shape said:
i agree SQ- i too train alone and i always pyramid-but like i said how much is enough weigth when ones goal is adding size to the quads- again I could careless less about putting up weight-it does not matter to me I have no one to impress with my strength

for example- i had a knee problem(meniscus) so i took some time off from leg training except for extensions- i am looking to again compete in June of this year and my quads are seriously lagging behind my upper body-so i wanted to do a quick 3 month blitz and bring the quads up a few inches if possible

i started squatting yesterday

1 plate warm up for 20 reps
2 plates 18 reps
went up to three plates figured should start to feel heavy-( it didn't) 15 reps
so threw on 4 plates and said i am just going to lift it off rack and see how it feels-did fuckin 10 reps- no problem-no knee wraps-no belt-no spot

question is do i go higher or just do more sets -less weight??? again just looking to wake up quads????

Yu guys all have to check out some videos of the squatters at my gym. Just goto www.cpc-powerlifting.com. The guy on the home page doing the deadlift squatted 937lbs a few years back (3 0r 4)....hes 53 now. Big man!!

Those guys do nothing but high reps and 30 seconds rest at the most. Squat, walk around the rack once, squat, walk around the rack once, squat...etc for like 8 sets. If you are looking for size I think doing pyramids, or just really heavy weights for like 4 reps five sets is the best way to build size. Go from heavy squats, to heavy leg press, then bust out some some leg extensions to failure. Oooooo... Thats nice.
 
I've only been doing this for 3 years (and don't consider myself big, either), but I warm up with 135 as many reps as I can do - 25 to 35 range; only going to parallel. Then I do increments of adding a quarter a side until I can only get out 3 or 4 reps (350- 400). Then I go use the smith machine with 225 and do as many reps with butt cheeks to the floor (usually 15-20) and then do another set with 135 to the floor as many as I can (15-20). I've noticed that my legs are getting more shape and I can hardly friggin walk for 2 days. My heaviest was 405 for 4 reps.
 
good thread guys thanx for all the replies


lastly- free squat vs. Smith---- any real difference-i am more controlled with the smith and feel i can target the quad easier
 
shape said:
good thread guys thanx for all the replies


lastly- free squat vs. Smith---- any real difference-i am more controlled with the smith and feel i can target the quad easier

Smith machines will let you use more weight, but they take the stability aspect out of the movement and "cheat' you out of alot of added benefits. I use the smith the last few weeks of a cutting cycle so i can go heavy on close stance and bring out the medialis a little more, but i only go up to 2 lids a side and go higher reps.
 
shape said:
good thread guys thanx for all the replies


lastly- free squat vs. Smith---- any real difference-i am more controlled with the smith and feel i can target the quad easier
I'll smith squat once in a blue moon where you can position your feet more forward (a little, not a ton) and really isolate my glutes and quads. In general, I think free squats are vastly superior in terms of total-body strength.

You may want to do back squats and mix them with front squats and overhead squats. You'll drop weight considerably for front squats and even moreso for overhead squats -- but the variety is great.
 
Got2GetRipped said:
I use about 365-385 on my 10-set.I hate dudes with tiny ass legs that go down like not even a quarter of the way down and act like there all strong and badass.

Go down below parallel or don't even bother, I say.
I wish I could give you super karma for this post, but regular will have to do. Seeing that shit to me is like biting into a lemon.
 
I noticed that there was a threshold on free weight poundage on lifts

a point where more was NOT better

and that was 315 for squats, deadlifts, and bench............


now I am happy with 225 on each lift BUT for reps...........
 
mrplunkey said:
Guys... look at the poll though. This board's viewership *easily* peaks at 350-450+ people (which probably translates into 1,000 or even 1,500 active accounts). Then consider this... You're probably much less likely to vote in a poll like this (or even open the thread) if 135 is kicking your ass. Taking that all into consideration, the fact that only 21 guys have votes (at this time) that they do 315 (3 wheels/side) or more is pretty remarkable.

I'd think that in any serious gym (read: no leg warmers, geriatric patients or tennis wives) that at least 10% of the male, acvite members could get 3 wheels up for one rep with reasonably good form. In a hard-core gym, I bet that number spikes up to 35% or more.
I'd say even less then 10%. Which is why I want photo's or videos. Too much bullshit here.
 
SuperDawgy said:
After going back through the thread, i haven't seen any numbers that look too far out of whack. If you weigh 215-225 you should be able to get at least a couple reps with 405. The highest i have seen here was Carl saying that he could get 455 for 7-8. I'm not doubting that he can, i'm just saying that that was about the best anyone has posted. I have said this in the past and will openly admit to it, my squat is not my best lift and i rarely go past 315 anymore because at 31 my back isn't what it used to be. I put a tape to my quads this morning and was suprised to find that i'm only carrying 25" wheels (around the largest part). But with a 28" inseam, they look bigger than most.
LOL - "If you weigh 215 - 225 you should be able to do 405 at least a couple of reps" Have you spent much time in gym? Have you been under a bar with 405 on it? It takes at least a few years of squating to work you way up to those kind of weights with proper form. At that weight class only the dedicated few that work more then beach muscles can do it. Most just spend their time bench pressing, arm and back work with an occasional leg day. I spend alot of time on the A board because I'm a moderator here, but truth is half the people here should be spending their time on the training board. I see this due to the emphasis put on drugs, when it should be put on proper training.

I've been weight training a long long time, and worked out at many gyms and spent too much time at powerlifting meets to buy this. It's not a common thing to see people in the squat rack period let alone properly repping 405.
This kind of talk makes me laugh. And it disrespects all those that CAN do it.
 
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genarr3 said:
LOL - "If you weigh 215 - 225 you should be able to do 405 at least a couple of reps" Have you spent much time in gym? Have you been under a bar with 405 on it? It takes at least a few years of squating to work you way up to those kind of weights with proper form. At that weight class only the dedicated few that work more then beach muscles can do it. Most just spend their time bench pressing, arm and back work with an occasional leg day. I spend alot of time on the A board because I'm a moderator here, but truth is half the people here should be spending their time on the training board. I see this due to the emphasis put on drugs, when it should be put on proper training.

I've been weight training a long long time, and worked out at many gyms and spent too much time at powerlifting meets to buy this. It's not a common thing to see people in the squat rack period let alone properly repping 405.
This kind of talk makes me laugh. And it disrespects all those that CAN do it.


genarr --just to clarify my case-i am 35 years old been lifting since 14 years of age i am 5'7" 231 pounds at right now about 13%-have 19' arms cold 48" chest- 34 waist --heres my problem right now 26' quads-look tiny compared to upper body-that is why i am asking advice on adding quad size-as you can see in every one of my threads -i could give a fuck less about weight and have no one to impress with numbers- and really if anyone on this thread is bragging about unrealistic numbers -who really cares-that is there problem-i am still just looking for sound advice period-let everyone talk shit about their lifts that is something in there head-again who gives a fuck
 
shape said:
genarr --just to clarify my case-i am 35 years old been lifting since 14 years of age i am 5'7" 231 pounds at right now about 13%-have 19' arms cold 48" chest- 34 waist --heres my problem right now 26' quads-look tiny compared to upper body-that is why i am asking advice on adding quad size-as you can see in every one of my threads -i could give a fuck less about weight and have no one to impress with numbers- and really if anyone on this thread is bragging about unrealistic numbers -who really cares-that is there problem-i am still just looking for sound advice period-let everyone talk shit about their lifts that is something in there head-again who gives a fuck
In that case I respect your position. If I were you I'd ask this question on the training board. There are a lot of very knowledgeable people there that could help you a great deal.
 
genarr3 said:
In that case I respect your position. If I were you I'd ask this question on the training board. There are a lot of very knowledgeable people there that could help you a great deal.


thanks alot- i will give a shot


BTW-is there any way of cutting and pasting this entire thread into the training forum???
 
shape said:
thanks alot- i will give a shot


BTW-is there any way of cutting and pasting this entire thread into the training forum???
If you want me to I'll copy the entire thread there. But IMO you'll get too many comments on other posts made here and never get your question answered. It's up to you. If it were me I'd just copy and paste your first post.
 
genarr3 said:
If you want me to I'll copy the entire thread there. But IMO you'll get too many comments on other posts made here and never get your question answered. It's up to you. If it were me I'd just copy and paste your first post.


thanks for the advice-i will do so
 
shape said:
are we calling a legit squat ass parralell to knees -not above not below-anything below that your working your ass not quads
bullshit look at all the great squatters-Goggins, Platz-They didnt get that way from going parallell-they go DEEP!!!! Thats still working youre quads, even though youre hitting your glutes too.
Bionic
 
BionicBC said:
bullshit look at all the great squatters-Goggins, Platz-They didnt get that way from going parallell-they go DEEP!!!! Thats still working youre quads, even though youre hitting your glutes too.
Bionic


not to sound gay but did ever see how enormous Platzs ass was-wonder why??????-i would not want an ass like that
 
genarr3 said:
LOL - "If you weigh 215 - 225 you should be able to do 405 at least a couple of reps" Have you spent much time in gym? Have you been under a bar with 405 on it? It takes at least a few years of squating to work you way up to those kind of weights with proper form. At that weight class only the dedicated few that work more then beach muscles can do it. Most just spend their time bench pressing, arm and back work with an occasional leg day. I spend alot of time on the A board because I'm a moderator here, but truth is half the people here should be spending their time on the training board. I see this due to the emphasis put on drugs, when it should be put on proper training.

I've been weight training a long long time, and worked out at many gyms and spent too much time at powerlifting meets to buy this. It's not a common thing to see people in the squat rack period let alone properly repping 405.
This kind of talk makes me laugh. And it disrespects all those that CAN do it.


Speaking of disrespect. Your entire post stinks of it...for me and for the vast majority of the guys that have spent time posting on this thread that can and DO use the weights that they have claimed. Have i ever had 405 on my back? The answer is yes, and much more! How much time have i spent in a gym? Counting the 5 years that i worked in one...14. What i don't understand is how you can automatically call bullshit on pretty much everyone here? What basis are you making your call on? Obviously your "life experience" has made you the ultimate authority of what people across the country are capable of lifting. I train at a gym that has a heavy emphasis on powerlifting, and 405 is a common squat for many of the regulars. I don't know what kind of gym you are a member of Gen, nor do i really care...but when you make blanket accusations ,make sure you have a leg to stand on.

*btw...i just got off the phone with the strength coach at a local high school. His football team has 5 KIDS that have recorded squats over 450 this year...here's the kicker, 4 were under 200lbs. Oh yeah, it's a AAA school!*
 
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SuperDawgy said:
Speaking of disrespect. Your entire post stinks of it...for me and for the vast majority of the guys that have spent time posting on this thread that can and DO use the weights that they have claimed. Have i ever had 405 on my back? The answer is yes, and much more! How much time have i spent in a gym? Counting the 5 years that i worked in one...14. What i don't understand is how you can automatically call bullshit on pretty much everyone here? What basis are you making your call on? Obviously your "life experience" has made you the ultimate authority of what people across the country are capable of lifting. I train at a gym that has a heavy emphasis on powerlifting, and 405 is a common squat for many of the regulars. I don't know what kind of gym you are a member of Gen, nor do i really care...but when you make blanket accusations ,make sure you have a leg to stand on.

*btw...i just got off the phone with the strength coach at a local high school. His football team has 5 KIDS that have recorded squats over 450 this year...here's the kicker, 4 were under 200lbs. Oh yeah, it's a AAA school!*

no dispect as well gennar ----but i have to agree with this post-i do not view 400lbs as a monumental sqaut
 
In my 20's I did 315 for 8-12
at 37 I do 225 x 10, friggin hurts the thoracic

Seems like alot of squatters are on this thread, so I have a question?

If I have some back issues and want to get away from heavier squats.
Can I get the same level of stimulation doing dumbell lunges? say 65 lb dumbells for walking lunges? The leg press just does not do it for me.
 
genarr3 said:
I've been weight training a long long time, and worked out at many gyms and spent too much time at powerlifting meets to buy this. It's not a common thing to see people in the squat rack period let alone properly repping 405.
This kind of talk makes me laugh. And it disrespects all those that CAN do it.

I've been lifting at a 24-Hour Fitness in Cali since July. I've only seen one guy squat or bench 4 plates and both were a single.
 
gamorrah said:
In my 20's I did 315 for 8-12
at 37 I do 225 x 10, friggin hurts the thoracic

Seems like alot of squatters are on this thread, so I have a question?

If I have some back issues and want to get away from heavier squats.
Can I get the same level of stimulation doing dumbell lunges? say 65 lb dumbells for walking lunges? The leg press just does not do it for me.

Lunges are great, but when I do them (with 60s BTW as high as they go in my gym) I get most sore in my adductors, glutes, and them hammies. If my quads are sore it's down towards the knee.

I would do heavy DB squats. Or That one where you hold the bar between your legs.
 
Lumberg said:
Lunges are great, but when I do them (with 60s BTW as high as they go in my gym) I get most sore in my adductors, glutes, and them hammies. If my quads are sore it's down towards the knee.

I would do heavy DB squats. Or That one where you hold the bar between your legs.


Im not supposed to do the extensions due to some patella surgeries. I have never heard of the one betweens the legs that you are referring to.


btw nice avatar, the infamous "cat dance"
 
455 x 8, 465 x 6, ass to the floor, no belt or wraps were my best, and I have videos kicking around here of them.
I personally would like to see some videos to see some of the squats posted on here, as it is the internet and anyone can claim anything. And it doesnt even remotely come close to being called a squat, unless it is to parallel, but to the floor is even better. And saying that will give you a huge ass is an old wives tale, I squat very heavy all the way down, and have built some pretty huge quads out of it, and my ass is no where near too big. More often than not that thats an excuse to avoid the drop in working weight when you go all the way down
 
needsize said:
455 x 8, 465 x 6, ass to the floor, no belt or wraps were my best, and I have videos kicking around here of them.
I personally would like to see some videos to see some of the squats posted on here, as it is the internet and anyone can claim anything. And it doesnt even remotely come close to being called a squat, unless it is to parallel, but to the floor is even better. And saying that will give you a huge ass is an old wives tale, I squat very heavy all the way down, and have built some pretty huge quads out of it, and my ass is no where near too big. More often than not that thats an excuse to avoid the drop in working weight when you go all the way down


nice numbers bro-but do you not feel that when you go past parallel you releive pressure from the quad???

also I am off the mindset that narrow stance smiths allow you to target the quad more- ok the free-squat is an "overall mass builder" blah-blah-blah-but if your goal is just to increase quad size do you not think the smith is better???? better control easier to feel the quad working

what do you think???
 
Lumberg said:
Lunges are great, but when I do them (with 60s BTW as high as they go in my gym) I get most sore in my adductors, glutes, and them hammies. If my quads are sore it's down towards the knee.

I would do heavy DB squats. Or That one where you hold the bar between your legs.
judging by your avatar youve been doing plenty of squats with the bars between your legs, because your C**k is gone bro.
Bionic
 
shape said:
nice numbers bro-but do you not feel that when you go past parallel you releive pressure from the quad???

also I am off the mindset that narrow stance smiths allow you to target the quad more- ok the free-squat is an "overall mass builder" blah-blah-blah-but if your goal is just to increase quad size do you not think the smith is better???? better control easier to feel the quad working

what do you think???

I do agree that narrow allows a little more quad stimulation, but you cant go rock bottom on too narrow a stance.
I dont think that the quads relax at all below parallel, I get a much bigger pump when I go that far. I've done a lot of experimenting, and all the way down has definitely done the most for quad development
Heres an old video, 455 x 7, so you can see my form, its old and I've squatted heavier since, but you get the idea. I do lean a bit at the bottom though, but notice no belt or wraps
squat 455 x 7
 
DAMN NS... you're huge off-season in that video. Looks like I did last winter... only you're about 40lbs heavier and 5 inches taller, lucky bastard on both accounts. You really do go ass to ankles. I'm short, but with a stance that narrow I can barely make parellel without falling over. With a wide stance and low bar I can get really low, but that works my low back and inner thighs more than quads. Can I come train with you? I must learn from the master :)
 
Lowest said:
DAMN NS... you're huge off-season in that video. Looks like I did last winter... only you're about 40lbs heavier and 5 inches taller, lucky bastard on both accounts. You really do go ass to ankles. I'm short, but with a stance that narrow I can barely make parellel without falling over. With a wide stance and low bar I can get really low, but that works my low back and inner thighs more than quads. Can I come train with you? I must learn from the master :)

thanks, I would love some company in the gym since alltraps has found himself a new training partner.....sniff...I was only around 245lbs in that video, and was 260lbs about a month ago

I do know there are some parts to my form that could stand some work, but I've been doing it so long that its hard to change now
 
Same here. I started off squatting plifter style, very wide stance and low-bar. Got strong-ass low-back and huge inner thighs, but not much quad work. Now I do much more narrow-stance, high-bar squats, bber style, but I just don't have the balance to go that low anymore, parallel is the best I get. I sink ass to ankles on smith machine front squats though, I love those! And bro, I would love to come train with you too, my last partner just stopped lifting after his first competition. I even love cold weather, but unfortunately, due to my greedy desire for money and the ability to get free drugs, I must stay here and finish my pharmacy degree. Damn greed, and lack of good workout partners! :)
 
Lowest said:
Same here. I started off squatting plifter style, very wide stance and low-bar. Got strong-ass low-back and huge inner thighs, but not much quad work. Now I do much more narrow-stance, high-bar squats, bber style, but I just don't have the balance to go that low anymore, parallel is the best I get. I sink ass to ankles on smith machine front squats though, I love those! And bro, I would love to come train with you too, my last partner just stopped lifting after his first competition. I even love cold weather, but unfortunately, due to my greedy desire for money and the ability to get free drugs, I must stay here and finish my pharmacy degree. Damn greed, and lack of good workout partners! :)

as long as the way you are doing it is working, then thats all that matters. For me it has to be ass to the floor. Also, my quads are so strong, that if I went parallel I would be squatting well over 500lbs for reps, and the rest of my body cant hack that right now
You love cold weather, are you nuts.....we just got back from 10 days in mexico to get away from this crap
 
haha, i'm about to go on a cruise tomorrow in the carribean for 5 days, but it's not cold here... 40's at night, I sleep with the windows open!
 
needsize said:
thanks, I would love some company in the gym since alltraps has found himself a new training partner.....sniff...I was only around 245lbs in that video, and was 260lbs about a month ago

I do know there are some parts to my form that could stand some work, but I've been doing it so long that its hard to change now

hey cockknock, i went looking for a partner cuz you only train YOUR way, and will never do anything else. im not into that. i like variety and science behind my training, not just adding 5lbs a week and doing the exact same exercises in the same order week in week out. plus, how many times have to called me and asked me what time "I" want to train at???? NEVER! if i want to train with you, I have to bow down to the king and be there when you are. so fuck you! :heart:
 
i just realized recently that my squats and even bench are powerlifter style. lowest, you are right, bar high on the traps is the bbing style and will work more quad. i have been doing Power lifter squats for years and now trying to switch to bbing squats is a motherfucker, i cant do half the weight.
 
Lowest said:
haha, i'm about to go on a cruise tomorrow in the carribean for 5 days, but it's not cold here... 40's at night, I sleep with the windows open!

very nice, we just got back from 10 days in the mayan riviera, it was a blast. We were going to go cruise but all inclusive just ended up more appealing. I may post some pics from the trip in the pics section
 
I use to squatt 525lbs for like 3 reps and I was 20 years old back when I was playing football then had really bad injury(tore hamstring) from running I couldnt do any legs for about 5 months and about 3 months ago I hurt my back! so been doing super light squatts. I havent been able to put more then 4 plates since about a year. Right now starting all over again and did 225 for 15 reps, high reps in squatts have gotten my legs alot bigger then when I was squatting 525lbs. And my joints in knees feel much better and also back!!!
 
alltraps said:
hey cockknock, i went looking for a partner cuz you only train YOUR way, and will never do anything else. im not into that. i like variety and science behind my training, not just adding 5lbs a week and doing the exact same exercises in the same order week in week out. plus, how many times have to called me and asked me what time "I" want to train at???? NEVER! if i want to train with you, I have to bow down to the king and be there when you are. so fuck you! :heart:

I know, but I thought I could get a rise out of you this way
and it wouldnt matter if I called and asked when you wanted to train, you're on polish time, which means you are at least an hour late fucker
 
i do 3 plates each side for 10 reps. i just started
 
i hate leg days,,,but i enjoy squats and i always warm up with a plate on each side and then work up to 3 on ech side
 
I have a really bad left knee, 3 surgeries over a 3 year period from football. I put a flat bench behind me and touch my ass to the bench on everyrep. I have to take extended periods off from lifting legs due to my knee acting up. Right now Im getting 315 for about 15 and 405 for 4-5 reps. I'll hit the 405 for 2 sets then drop back down to 315 for a another set of about 10-12.
 
shape said:
how many plates are you guys throwing on for reps- i am interested strictly in adding size to my quads-i could care less about how much i can squat or how strong i am


When you get to 4 plates, which I have, you know you're at another level from "the others"
 
shortstack said:
2 plates for a watm up, then i do 315 for 12 reaps, the 315 for 10 then 315 for 8 then a plate and a half for burnout


is that your entire quad work-except for extensions or ?????

do you incorporate hacks, fronts or the sled ???????????
 
well my self i use 460 for reps my max is about 550 but that is a parralel squat as a football player i dont go any lower, becuase its hard on the joints
 
I used to do 735 to the basement for 10 when hackin

I would suggest using lighter weights so you can be consistent and avoid injuries.

Those knees can only take so many miles on em before they give out. U cant call GM to find out the answer for these though.

Best of luck
 
I am currently doing 315 for an easy 10 reps. My knees have bene huring me and I have no idea why.

Depth is important - we have big guys in the gym that pile on 5 on each side but only go down 10 inches - that is a total waste.

When I was in my younger years I was hitting 425 for reps. My partner and I would kick out 5 sets and then do negatives one week and the next week we would knock off 50 pounds after the 5th set and do down until we could only do the bar or until total failure. there were times we were on the ground and couldn't get up lol (and now I wonder why my knees hurt lol)
 
bro, i am a competitive powerlifter. i am 6-1 255, 14%bf. i realize hypertrophy is not our ultimate goal but powerlifting has made me lots bigger. try some powerlifting exercises to jump start your squat training again. ie....zercher squats, good mornings etc.......hope my advice helps you.........
 
I cant squat anymore, I stick with lots of hacks and leg press. Squats have been too brutal on my back the past few years.. The heaviest I ever went though back in the day was like 455 for 6 reps. I couldnt even do that now though..
 
needsize said:
I do agree that narrow allows a little more quad stimulation, but you cant go rock bottom on too narrow a stance.
I dont think that the quads relax at all below parallel, I get a much bigger pump when I go that far. I've done a lot of experimenting, and all the way down has definitely done the most for quad development
Heres an old video, 455 x 7, so you can see my form, its old and I've squatted heavier since, but you get the idea. I do lean a bit at the bottom though, but notice no belt or wraps
squat 455 x 7

needsize bro, MUCH respect. I have read a lot of your posts as I continue to reserach the site and bro, you are about the only guy on this site that puts up proof. The old saying put up or shut up means in this case you should never shut up because you are putting up. You have earned my respect bro. K to you.
 
musketeer said:
You will not believe how much of a base you will build for squatting by doing the 20 sets of 20 reps routine for one month. You will need just the empty bar. You will not lose any strength, you will be stronger coming back than you have ever been.
im gonna try this this month, let u know how it went. pm me if u have naymore advice. thanx bro.
vic
 
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