How long does a bottle of dermacrine last?

[mm107]

yea, i mean PP does recommend to run HCG at the end of cycle before PCT. The clomid sides are too much, especially when the product works (dermacrine), if dermacrine worked, soso, then i would shell out money for the nolva/clomid/hcg, but since i had excelent results ill stick with it....

P.S. some of the testers did recieve free samples, but that wouldnt make us rave about a prodcut we dont believe in. The one reason for us to recieve the bottle was because we were skeptical like everyone else, and i said i would not put the banner in my sig unless i believed in the prodcut...well i added the banner after several weeks of using dermacrine....so i feel it works =]

 

[krishna]

I can get 3 months worth of pct for that price.

 

[needtogetaas]

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=536760

I don't like the sides with clomid.

What's up bros. My problem is that clomid gives me very bad sides (tracers at night that last months after use) I gave clomid a second chance and it was worse than the first. What should I do for PCT? I'm planning on a Test+Dbol soon.

What dosage are u taking .. I get bad sides too.. But i take 50mg/day at night before i go to bed.. Just as effective as 100-150/day

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=533110&highlight=clomid+sides

Clomid: Apparently a LOT of the sides (which have been described as being a bitchy teenage girl who wears her heart on her sleeve) come with higher doses, so many suggest NOT to frontload, and run simply 50mg daily.
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looks like it did not work for this guy

I have been off cycle since Jan 1st and I am done with my pct which consisted of 30 days clomid 50mg/ed and one week of nolva 25mg/ed to subside the gyno. Ok, I am having a hard time getting it up. When it does get up, it isn't as hard as it used to be. What gives. I am off everything right now, including AIFM which I have run everyday 2-4 pumps since October. Please help.

Proviron...heard that stuff mentioned quite a bit. Never tried it though. As far as HCG; I did some coming off, but have been encouraged by others to not use anymore since I'm producing Test. I know it gets the wood up though...quick. But there are mixed feelings about in the bodybuilding community, like potentially desensitizing the Leydig cells to LH. I wouldn't want that! Clomid unfortunately doesn't jive with me. I took some awhile back and had some nasty sides (vision problems, upset stomach), so for SERMS; I only use Nolva. Thought about adding a tiny bit of Arimidex (like .25) to the last week of my PCT, but never did.

define priapism, juice dur make me dumb, and i dont want to google it..

im about a week into clomid, nothing yet.. im scared.. think of a 6'5'' 250 guy crying his eyes out on his 5'2'' 110lb girlfriends shoulder.. please god help me

Jesus, the priapism sucks man...i cant even work anymore...6 more days...cant wait.

Only side ive gotten tho.

Just started 4th week on 50 mg liq clomid for PCT. Really no sides to speak of except the mental aspect of going from the King of the Jungle to a sniffling schoolgirl.

talking about clomid fucking up his eyes lol ya thats good.

Never heard of the boner problem with Clomid (Proviron, whole different story). I've never really had the emotional side effects hit me. But the weird visual-night time lightning show, always.

Clomid could make Clint Eastwood into a bitch.

I've never got tracers thank god, but it can really make me overly sensitive. It doesn't bother me enough to not take it though. I think the lower doses of 50mg ED to EOD minimizes these effects....sometimes...hahaha. I got emotional on that "Flyboys" movie the other night.

talking about clomid
BMJ

yeah it gets me seriously emotionally depressed. stuff sucks..i stick with a-dex and nolv.

again talking about clomid........

Thats me! I am an emotional wreck on it...so I do not do it. I do not lose mass though off cycle to much.

Q.

Sheesh, if that was the only side effect I had to contend with while on clomid, I would take it!!! I haven't been on clomid for months now (last PCT), but I occasionally still get floaters first thing when I wake up.... and forget about the emotional sides, abdominal cramps, etc...

clomid makes me a nutcase. i get wicked mood swings and hot flashes. i hate that shit.

clomid + the notebook = crying beeeootch!!

What's up bros. My problem is that clomid gives me very bad sides (tracers at night that last months after use) I gave clomid a second chance and it was worse than the first. What should I do for PCT? I'm planning on a Test+Dbol soon.

clomid sides?

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=522555&highlight=clomid+sides

Day 3 50mg a day and starting to get Bi-polar like a nut. One minute i want to hurt someone, next min i want to cry.

How do some of you deal with this?

i get like a nutty scizo bitch female on the rag from clomid. i usually start at 300, then 200 for a couple, then 100 for 11 then 50 for 11...i think next time i'll use less...maybe.

Any of you guys have any special methods of coping with the Clomid blues?

Actually never frontloaded. Couldn't dream of taking down down 300 mg. After the third day @ 50 mg I had bad headache and really depressed. I was taking ibuprofen all day long. It helped for the headaches. Was also an emotional piece of shit. Sides have somewhat gone away. There were a few days that made me think this all is not worth it.

Everybody's different...some don't get any emotional sides. The only things that can mess with me are clomid during pct and eq. (slight anxiety). It's a good sign you handled everything well in your previous cycles, so I wouldn't worry about it. Who knows, you could go on your cycle, get huge, lift a ton, and feel like a million bucks.

I'm not sure what is going on in your personal life...if it's something like serious depression, I'd say screw the cycle and wait until things are more "balanced".

no but you'd better get those emotions in check before you start your clomid!

On cycle you shouldnt run into issues... OFF cycle is when the problems get to people... gotta do your PCT 100% and stay away from clomid lol

. I had bad moods on clomid before in that I couldn't get to sleep through feeling sorry for myself until about 4am every night!!!

"FUCK YOUR RIGHT THIS CLOMID SHIT SOUNDS LIKE ITS WELL WORTH THE MONEY...."
WHAT WAS i THINKING LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[needtogetaas]

and thats just a small small tip of the ice burg i found that in 5 mins just doing a search on the word clomid.lol

 

[krishna]

I've done clomid like 4 times and I know how it makes me feel. It's not going to do you any good to try and convince me I don't like it because other people don't. I know I DO like it because I've tried it plenty of times.

 

[mobro]

I've done clomid like 4 times and I know how it makes me feel. It's not going to do you any good to try and convince me I don't like it because other people don't. I know I DO like it because I've tried it plenty of times.

Been there done that huh Krishna. I think i will side with until later, way later, like when the price comes down, if ever. "I like the way you talk boy."

 

[tadoro77]

Seems pretty pricey. I can get full pct with clomid and hcg cheaper than this shit. Was interested, but not sure if it's worth it.

I completely agree. IN MY OPINION the price of Dermacrine is way too high. Even with a coupon code it is $67 for one bottle to your door. I think if it were UNDER $45 (including shipping) that you would have more interest. Any more UNBIASED opinions on this??

 

[Vascular Freak]

I'm sure there are a few bros who got a free test bottle, and therefore, are inclined to jock the stuff, but that doesn't convince me. I know clomid and hcg work, and like I said, it's cheaper. Why pay more for an OTC product?

Krish....I tested it and to be honest with ya bro I wouldn't say it was good just because Pp gave me a free sample. It does seem pricey but I did feel much better post cycle. The usual post cycle sides like lack of pump, loss of strength, decreased muscle fullness etc were not noticed with this.

Mine lasted about 35-40 days. I would still run the HCG for the last few weeks of your cycle at 500 ius ed, then drop the gear and start the derma.

I don't know the test results yet but I am more concerned with sex drive, strength and muscle fullness post cycle.....all this was not an issue this time round.....I'm a straight shooter....I wouldn't kiss Pp's ass just because he let me try a bottle for free

 

[gjohnson5]

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I don't understand this be cheap stuff. You spend a ton of cash on steroids and then talk about being frugal during PCT. I would think a man who is truely frugal wouldn't do gear in the first place
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Anyway, I agree with vascular freak. When on PCT it is good to have something with anabolic properties so you can keep your gains. Clomid, Nolvadex, and HCG wont stop you from losing muscle

 

[krishna]

I*edit*
I don't understand this be cheap stuff. You spend a ton of cash on steroids and then talk about being frugal during PCT. I would think a man who is truely frugal wouldn't do gear in the first place
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Anyway, I agree with vascular freak. When on PCT it is good to have something with anabolic properties so you can keep your gains. Clomid, Nolvadex, and HCG wont stop you from losing muscle

All I'm saying is why spend more when I can get proven pharmaceuticals for less? Dermacrine is a combo of AI's right? That and dhea. What is it about dermacrine that helps you keep your pumps. Maybe I'll just buy some DHEA or something post cycle. It would still be cheaper with the rest of my pct.