How long did it take you to find out the three keys to strength/muscle gain?

[PoyeBoy]

Those three things being:
1. eating enough and the right kinds of Food
2. Moving the wieghts and not being a puss no matter how much you want to give up or how much it hurts
3. plenty of sleep.

Sorry if Im beating a dead horse here, I just had to vent, I have had a few key instances(I wont go into them) in the past week, and I am reminded daily by ignorant people at the gym, in regular life, and on the internet, that I just have to get this off my chest.

Everyone puts thier trust and relies on stupid suppliments/other things to do the job. And are not willing to take matters into thier own hands. they have a shitty diet and do not even get close to enough sleep, but they have that new NO2 that is supposed to raise crap levels by 400%.

I finally came to this conclusion about a year ago, after about 3 years of decent lifitng. I just wish I would have found this out earlier.

Now when I hear people talking about "the new breakthough supplements" I want to slap them in the face and tell them to stop being momma's boys, suck it up and just lift already.

sorry if this is long winded, I just needed to let off some steam

 

[crew9]

too long

 

[PoyeBoy]

too long

bastard, i kill you now

 

[flexygrl]

Poye,

hmmmm, if it only were that simple. Enough sleep! That's a good one. What do you consider enough sleep. If I get 5 hours I count myself lucky. Sometimes life gets in the way.

Eating right, now that's key. Big time!!! The only thing is I'm on CKD right now, so technically am I eating right? I'm not taking in any or barely any carbs for energy.

Pushing around the weights:

God I have to get this engrained in my head. I am still soooo weak minded. I can push through the pain, but I just know at the end of my set, that I could've worked harder.


Here's to one day getting the key three to work for me!

Good post, as always!

I love the avatar.

 

[Debaser]

3 months.

I was lucky.

 

[casualbb]

The second two I had down pat for three years. Of course, nothing happened. Found #1 a year ago.

 

[Exodus]

ive found 1.5................. i got the training, eating a lot of food but not always clean, and learning the sleep.

X

 

[PoyeBoy]

Poye,

hmmmm, if it only were that simple. Enough sleep! That's a good one. What do you consider enough sleep. If I get 5 hours I count myself lucky. Sometimes life gets in the way.

trust me, it is that simple, well maybe a few other items as well, but mostly those three. For me enough sleep is 7-8 hours a night, if I get less or more I am tired.

great job on the CKD, thats mad tough, takes alot out of someone to do that.

 

[PoyeBoy]

3 months.

I was lucky.

bastrad

 

[Debaser]

Well, whenever I get into any kind of hobby, I research the shit out of it (to put it eloquently).

 

[supersizeme]

it took me 6 months to figure out that leg extensions weren't making my legs grow

it took me 1 year to discover deadlifts and finally my arms grew

it took about 6 months to figure out that a protein shake mixed with water does not count as a meal and will not add size(neglecting carbs thinking protein is all you need)

 

[Alucard]

Before I ever lifted a weight.

As for sleep, it only happens when it decides to happen.

 

[fastgain]

About 1 week....thanks to this board.


mmmm....deads and squats and steaks, i'm getting huge fast.

 

[Zander1983]

Three years.

 

[sinjinsmythe33]

figured it out recently

sleep is very important. i am always stronger on the weekends, when i get more rest. nutrition is up and down with me, trying to get my vitamins, protein and stay away from the junk food. the latter is a bitch.

 

[JollyRogers]

I do low reps now that I know I have a 80/20 ratio for slow twitch, and eating 5-8 times a day (mostly meat), like to be lean somewhat, I keep carbs moderate, helps gain weight, but be lean as well, I try to drink allot of juice and water when I can, I like to stretch allot too, helps my muscles stay loose and relaxed, I also like vitamin C, great for the skin.


I started lifting in 98-99 when I was in high school after that I stopped, then in 02 I went back at it for 6 months, then I got all frustrated and gave it up, now again am at it once more, this time for good, I’m in better shape now then I was back then, thanks to this board, great ideas, great people, this place is full of knowledge, the power of information is great!

 

[Backlash]

Lifting is the easiest one to figure out, for the most part. (although I never realized how important squats were until a month ago ).

Took my like 4 years to figure out the eating.

 

[IronLion]

I knew how to kill myself in the gym and i knew that I needed 8 hours plus from the start, but...........I spent way too much time with a six pack thinking that I was going to grow at 8%, well I did but very slowly and only because I was 18 and in the perfect phase of life to be gaining. My advice to everyone who aspires to be "stout" and ripped: get to the stout first, unless you want to be that gym rat with the six pack that works out every day and gains 10 ounces a year.

 

[SAGAT]

i got nr 2 and 3 down from the beginning (quite a few years ago) but nr 1 i discovered through these boards. a damn shame 'cause i feel i would have progressed a lot more had i known it from the beginning.

 

[gopanthers]

Thats why I use tylonol pms to get me to sleep

 

[jerkbox]

not too long ago i realized I wasn't eating enough.....now that I look back at when I made the best gains, it was when I had access to/made an effort to eat a ton.....it makes all the difference.

sleep comes easy...because I am somewhat lazy and like to nap.

the weights...I am more likely to overtrain than not, so DC is great.