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How is this routine?

JDid23

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Hey everyone.. I have been doing a 3 day full body workout for around the past 4-5 weeks. I want to take it to the end of the year before switching up routines, and am wondering how something like this looks.



Thanks!


Day 1- Sunday
Squat- 3x5-8
Row- 3x5-8
Incline DB- 2x8-12
Tri Pushdowns- 2x8-12
Abs
Standing Calves- 3-6 sets

Day 2- Tuesday
Clean and Jerk- 4x3
Chinups/Lat Pulldowns (not sure which yet)- chins 3 sets, pulldowns 3x8-12
Dips- 3 sets sub failure
SLDL- 2x8
Abs
1 legged DB Lunges- 2 sets of 10 per leg.

Day 3- Thursday
Deadlift- 1x6
Bench- 2x5-8
Curl Variation- 3 sets
Closed Grip Bench Press- 2x8-12
Seated Calves- 3-6 sets
Seated DB Press- 2x8-12
 
your making great progress with what your doing, some lifts increasing 10lbs a week, you shouldnt even be thinking about a new routien yet lol
 
Suggestions:
-Add military or overhead press
-2 days a week of squats
-2 days a week of barbell bench (do extra day on incline db bench day)
-perhaps 2 sets on deadlift, but lower reps to 5

You are 17 right? 17 is when your levels of testosterone are peaking, that's why I'm suggesting more volume. It's like you're on steroids. I'm 17 right now and do a lot of volume and still progress rapidly
 
Suggestions:
-Add military or overhead press
-2 days a week of squats
-2 days a week of barbell bench (do extra day on incline db bench day)
-perhaps 2 sets on deadlift, but lower reps to 5

You are 17 right? 17 is when your levels of testosterone are peaking, that's why I'm suggesting more volume. It's like you're on steroids. I'm 17 right now and do a lot of volume and still progress rapidly

haha yeah man... for deads i ramp up to my 1 set max of 6 reps. I have clean/press in place of OHP so i thought that would be suitable.

EM- i agree with what you're saying completely, but i have all of the exercises i am progressing on in the routine, and i switched some of the lifts like pullovers/lat raises that feel uncomfortable to do. I want to continue the routine i am on until at least the end of the year, so that will put me at 8+ weeks on it..
 
haha yeah man... for deads i ramp up to my 1 set max of 6 reps. I have clean/press in place of OHP so i thought that would be suitable.

EM- i agree with what you're saying completely, but i have all of the exercises i am progressing on in the routine, and i switched some of the lifts like pullovers/lat raises that feel uncomfortable to do. I want to continue the routine i am on until at least the end of the year, so that will put me at 8+ weeks on it..

I do thing you should at least do 2 days per week of squats though. In my opinion on the day you clean and jerk since you are only doing 4x3 you could do 2-3 sets of 8 on military press. Clean and jerk will not work your shoulders as well as a strict military press.
 
Thblock- that's true, but i also have seated DB Press for shoulders on Thursday. As far as adding squats to another day, should i do lighter weight + higher reps on tuesdays? I don't want to have Squat/Dead/Bench on the same day with all of that accessory stuff. Or maybe take out SLDL and add another day of squats. Maybe 3 sets of 10-15 reps?
 
Thblock- that's true, but i also have seated DB Press for shoulders on Thursday. As far as adding squats to another day, should i do lighter weight + higher reps on tuesdays? I don't want to have Squat/Dead/Bench on the same day with all of that accessory stuff. Or maybe take out SLDL and add another day of squats. Maybe 3 sets of 10-15 reps?

Well I think maybe if you did squats on Tuesday, like 3x12 or something like that. That looks like a shorter day to me than Thursday, which is why I think you could fit the squats there. Or maybe try front squats 3x8 or 3x5 then. Might make a nice variation with front squats, back squats, deadlifts, and stiff-leg deadlifts in your routine. I wouldn't drop the sldl. If you feel like you are over training you could always drop the extra day of squats, it's just that I think 1 day of squats a week for like 15-24 reps isn't enough. Good luck and kick some ass!!!!
 
how is squatting once a week not enough when he has deadlifts, RDL and one legged squats throughout the week? His main aim is strength gains so he doesnt need loads of volume...

Jdid i actually think 5x5 or 3x5 would be good for you and your aims
 
Well I think maybe if you did squats on Tuesday, like 3x12 or something like that. That looks like a shorter day to me than Thursday, which is why I think you could fit the squats there. Or maybe try front squats 3x8 or 3x5 then. Might make a nice variation with front squats, back squats, deadlifts, and stiff-leg deadlifts in your routine. I wouldn't drop the sldl. If you feel like you are over training you could always drop the extra day of squats, it's just that I think 1 day of squats a week for like 15-24 reps isn't enough. Good luck and kick some ass!!!!

thanks man.. for now i am going to stick to squats 1 day a week, but increase to 3 working sets. i am still going on my current routine, and once i start plateauing on my big lifts, i am going to switch it up to this.. Spoke to Saibot and the routine i am going to be following is as follows; really pumped to add clean and jerks lol


Day 1
Squat- 3x5-8
Row- 3x5-8 (switch between DB/BB each workout)
Incline DB- 3x8-12
Tri Pushdowns- 3x8-12
Abs
Standing Calves- 3-6 sets

Day 2
Clean and Jerk- 4x3—
Chinups- 3 sets sub failure
Dips- 3 sets sub failure
SLDL- 2x8
1 legged DB Lunges- 3 sets
Abs

Day 3
Deadlift- 1x6
Bench- 2x5-8
Seated Calves- 3-6 sets
Seated DB Press- 3x8-12
CGBP- 3x8-12—125x12- 155x12
Curl Variation- 3 sets
 
how is squatting once a week not enough when he has deadlifts, RDL and one legged squats throughout the week? His main aim is strength gains so he doesnt need loads of volume...

Jdid i actually think 5x5 or 3x5 would be good for you and your aims

Dude...no offence...but you only squat 231 and you've been training for a while. I've only been squatting for a few months and I could probably hit 315 for a single back squat right now and 235 for front squats. For gaining muscle 1 time a week may be enough but for strength 2x a week a week at 17 years old will produce much faster results.

Additionally, I think it would be perfect for him to front squat 1x per week and back squat 1x. Tons of peopel do that and have great results. Jd, since you are mainly focusing on strength you could do 3x5 front squat, and 3x5 back squats with a few days rest in between. After a week if you are still feeling sore or too tired form all the leg work, drop the front squats.
 
Dude...no offence...but you only squat 231 and you've been training for a while. I've only been squatting for a few months and I could probably hit 315 for a single back squat right now and 235 for front squats. For gaining muscle 1 time a week may be enough but for strength 2x a week a week at 17 years old will produce much faster results.

Additionally, I think it would be perfect for him to front squat 1x per week and back squat 1x. Tons of peopel do that and have great results. Jd, since you are mainly focusing on strength you could do 3x5 front squat, and 3x5 back squats with a few days rest in between. After a week if you are still feeling sore or too tired form all the leg work, drop the front squats.

I could critisize your strength too, i looked on the last page of your log on the first workout i saw and:
135x8 strict rows? Compared to your 255 bench bro this is way too low and shows an inbalance

160x8 curl grip pulldown? this is pretty weak compared to your deadlift and bench aswell

125x5 OHP this is way off too, I press 121x3 overhead and I only bench 193, and as you pointed out I only squat 231.

Besides, your 17 and Im 15, your way bigger than me at 180 10%bf when Im 175ish 18%bf. And Iv had 3 big injuries this year which have stopped me squatting for weeks on end and put my numbers back, squatting has been very frustrating.

from what is said in your log, your diet isnt that good either, and you take lots of supps to makeup from it, I might be wrong about this though.

see anyone can critisize eachother's lifts, and Im sure not many people are 100% happy with all their lifts either, my squat is way weaker than where is should be and doesnt compare to my deadlift.

but you are right about front squats being a good assistance for squats
 
I could critisize your strength too, i looked on the last page of your log on the first workout i saw and:
135x8 strict rows? Compared to your 255 bench bro this is way too low and shows an inbalance

160x8 curl grip pulldown? this is pretty weak compared to your deadlift and bench aswell

125x5 OHP this is way off too, I press 121x3 overhead and I only bench 193, and as you pointed out I only squat 231.

Besides, your 17 and Im 15, your way bigger than me at 180 10%bf when Im 175ish 18%bf. And Iv had 3 big injuries this year which have stopped me squatting for weeks on end and put my numbers back, squatting has been very frustrating.

from what is said in your log, your diet isnt that good either, and you take lots of supps to makeup from it, I might be wrong about this though.

see anyone can critisize eachother's lifts, and Im sure not many people are 100% happy with all their lifts either, my squat is way weaker than where is should be and doesnt compare to my deadlift.

but you are right about front squats being a good assistance for squats

Dude actually thanks for the criticisms they really do help:) Actually in my opinion about my lifts, my military press is fine right now, as I use really strict form and haven't worked on it a ton. It has been going up 5 pounds a week so not bad.
I'm probably going to get shit for posting this article but I do like reading tmuscle.com's articles.
TMUSCLE.com | Achieving Structural Balance

According to this, an optimal ratio would be .65 for close grip bench to btn press. So I can probably cgbp 225 or so, meaning my btn press should be 145. I searched ratios of military presses to bench presses, and they consistently seemed to be .55-.75 or so. In addition, I do 5 sets of 5 at 125, I could probably get 10 reps at 125.

For the curl grip pulldowns, my machine is way different than other machines the way the pulley system works. I've been to other gyms and when I was only lat pulling 120x8 I could easily pull 185x10 at other gyms.

Okay, the one thing you are 100 percent right on is my rows. I've only recently adopted rows into my routine so they are definitely really low. I think that is part of the reason I have gotten rotary cuff pain. Need to work on those:)

BTW, I'm like 186 12 percent bodyfat+, and 6 foot, so I'm not that much bigger than you. In fact at school yesterday some guy called me a stick. Lol. I would fuck him up in a fight though so it's all good.

Okay wow sorry for the thread jack jdid. Anyway, my original point was not to criticize you em, I just wanted to say that I squat at least 2x per week and have gotten great results, and at least suggest that jdid try it in his routine.:)

Wow one last thing, if you look at these strength standards:
http://www.exrx.net/Testing/WeightLifting/StrengthStandards.htm

You'll see that the ratio for press to bench is .6. I can probably max 160 military press, any they say advanced for my weight class(181 would be what I would compete in if I dropped a little water retention) would be 165 military press and 275 bench.

Was for diet, I have a pretty damn good diet right now, my parents are into very healthy food and I eat 200 grams of protein for some dinners. I eat very consistently throughout the day also.
 
no problem man :)

i am going to try this for now (well soon) and as long as my squat is going up i'll be all good..... If it's not however, i definitely wouldn't mind squatting twice a week
 
i too have squatted up to 3 times a week and seen real bad results. for a 250 bench i would have though 125 strict military would be low, if not then mine is too high, 193x3 bench and 121x3 strict military...
 
good guys in here,
we all have to remember, what works for one person, dosnt always work for another... personaly i think squats every workout (now twice or three times a week) is best for me... but for EM, he has tried it and it didnt work...
if you are looking for strength gains, your routine looks pretty good though...
 
i too have squatted up to 3 times a week and seen real bad results. for a 250 bench i would have though 125 strict military would be low, if not then mine is too high, 193x3 bench and 121x3 strict military...

Well I think yours is right on track, if you divide 121/193, you get .63. If you divide 160/255 for my ratio, it's also .63. Of course yours is for a set of 3, but it is still a correct ratio.
 
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