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How good is clen really at fat loss?

Well if it cuts fat then how is it temporary exactly? What would you recommend aside from diet + cardio?
Crazy how Nelson mentioned dead people and it was overlooked, still asked how temporary the results are! What a world we live in today. But I digress. I've done several rounds of Clen and I agree unless you continue the strict ass diet clen calls for well after doing it, you gain what you lost. Happened the first few times I did it. Definitely not the route you want to go if you're looking for long term results.
 
Crazy how Nelson mentioned dead people and it was overlooked, still asked how temporary the results are! What a world we live in today. But I digress. I've done several rounds of Clen and I agree unless you continue the strict ass diet clen calls for well after doing it, you gain what you lost. Happened the first few times I did it. Definitely not the route you want to go if you're looking for long term results.

id say this really depends how much you loose, and how strict you are the rest of the year, i started at 100kgs 8 months ago, dropped down to 96 then did my first clen cycle which got me down to 90, and i stayed there for 4 months(untill now) and i started a new clen cycle now, so far down to 86(started at 25%+ BF last year, now im down to 15%ish)


you dont automaticly gain back what you loose with clen, ofc you would do so if ur diet is wack once you go off the clen, its all about kcal in vs kcal out :)


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and needtogetaas how good is eph? i was thinking of dropping my currently clen cycle to 2 days on 2 days off in about 3weeks, and go 2 days on clen 2 days on eph, how much better is eph?
goal is 11% BF or lower by mid august:)
 
if your diet has went from bad to very good and u are exercising that would make u lose more bf% then clen or anything else..diet and exercise are far above anything else when it comes to losing bodyfat..

btw i hate clen. it toys with your heart and yes i have used clen many times.. matter of fact the last few times i used clen i felt like such shit, i didnt even want to excerise so it was counter productive ..never again
 
if your diet has went from bad to very good and u are exercising that would make u lose more bf% then clen or anything else..diet and exercise are far above anything else when it comes to losing bodyfat..

btw i hate clen. it toys with your heart and yes i have used clen many times.. matter of fact the last few times i used clen i felt like such shit, i didnt even want to excerise so it was counter productive ..never again
I hear ya. When I'm at a high dose and try to do cardio...I hop on the bike and grab the HR sensors and it's usually close to my peak, before I even start peddling lol. This last cycle is the highest and longest I ever ran it, about 4 weeks and the last few were spent at around 150mcg (per needto so hush)...and id literally be standing there in-between sets and my ENTIRE body esp legs would shake like no other. Kinda embarrassing lol I'm sure plenty thought I was on crack (unless they were members of EF then they'd know I was a clenhead not a crackhead lol)
 
I hear ya. When I'm at a high dose and try to do cardio...I hop on the bike and grab the HR sensors and it's usually close to my peak, before I even start peddling lol. This last cycle is the highest and longest I ever ran it, about 4 weeks and the last few were spent at around 150mcg (per needto so hush)...and id literally be standing there in-between sets and my ENTIRE body esp legs would shake like no other. Kinda embarrassing lol I'm sure plenty thought I was on crack (unless they were members of EF then they'd know I was a clenhead not a crackhead lol)

i was getting nosebleeds and crazy headaches on clen.. i assume my blood pressure must have been insane ..

recently had a few friends have heart attacks in their late 3o's. 1 died .. im staying away from clen
 
i was getting nosebleeds and crazy headaches on clen.. i assume my blood pressure must have been insane ..

recently had a few friends have heart attacks in their late 3o's. 1 died .. im staying away from clen
Do you I've specific info? Like...were they taking too high of a dose at one time, or were they taking too high of a dose altogether...? That's crazy
 
Do you I've specific info? Like...were they taking too high of a dose at one time, or were they taking too high of a dose altogether...? That's crazy

no they werent taking clen that i know of lol.. just making a point that the heart is very delicate and not something to toy with..
 
no they werent taking clen that i know of lol.. just making a point that the heart is very delicate and not something to toy with..
You made it sound like these people had heart attacks and shit from clen. Well I feel...sheepish
 
To be honest, I love Clen for fatloss. It shreds my fat up like crazy. But, on the other hand, it is extremely bad for you. I can actually feel my heart hurting sometimes. It is something to think twice about.
 
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