How does this sound?

[bgbay]

26
6'1
195lbs
16.5bf%
(did many cycles, test, beast, deca etc)

Goals: Lower bf% to around 10ish, gain lean muscle mass

1-4 Beastdrol 2 caps a day
1-4 Need2slin 5 caps a day
3-6 Katanadrol 5 caps a day
3-15 t400 at 400-500mg/week
3.-15 .5mg of adex eod

pct
post cycle +unleashed
formastanzonl
novaldex

also have letro and cabisar on hand.


supports
liver support/milk thistle
joint support
multi vitamins
fish oil

 

[25homes]

Why not run real cutting cycle like test prop/ tren a/ masteron?? Meet your goals for sure or even run t- 400 with tren or masteron or both

 

[floridaboy07]

Why not run real cutting cycle like test prop/ tren a/ masteron?? Meet your goals for sure or even run t- 400 with tren or masteron or both

i was thinking the same thing pretty much

 

[bgbay]

What I have is pretty much all I can get access too at the moment. Maybe in march or april I can get more but where I live it comes in waves. im already a week into my beast cycle. just thinkin of adding the t400 to make it a nice long one

 

[zedhed]

6'1', 195Lbs cut? Why?
I would save my money and do this by diet.
I would get my diet in check and bust my butt on the weights for a year or two.
Then I would consider gear.
At your stats you can do it all with diet and hard work bro.

 

[WinnyPumps]

At 6''1 195lbs @ 16.5% bf I would just make an effort to clean up the diet and train harder. That is kind of on the thin side but chubby at the same time. T400 and Beast would be good but you have to eat alot of clean calories

 

[RickO'Shea]

6'1', 195Lbs cut? Why?
I would save my money and do this by diet.
I would get my diet in check and bust my butt on the weights for a year or two.
Then I would consider gear.
At your stats you can do it all with diet and hard work bro.

Yeah I agree with the Zed.

 

[thelocal]

ur cycle is fine..dont listen to the ohter dick heads..stay natty as long as u can before u hit the sauce is my 2 cents/....agree with Zed,diet and hard work and u can bulk nicely

 

[bgbay]

Sweet, thanks guys. and ya I'm thin when I stand up but chubby at other times I don't like this shit lol
genetically i'm fuckt, mom is over weight, dad is, brothers are and so is my sister, i"M the only one who is remotely in shape, im not using this as an excuse for where i'm at, I know why I am where I am and it's not being strict enough with my diet. But I hear a lot of ppl hear say genetics depends a lot but I would like to prove that wrong haha

So clean as diet, I have 6 weeks until I go away. Anyone have any specific programs or routines I should look into, or just be strict as hell with my diet and hard with my training?

I'm thinking on fasted cardio 3 times a week, texas method or sheiko (3 day workout) as well as my mma training. Hoping this will do it.

 

[WinnyPumps]

Sweet, thanks guys. and ya I'm thin when I stand up but chubby at other times I don't like this shit lol
genetically i'm fuckt, mom is over weight, dad is, brothers are and so is my sister, i"M the only one who is remotely in shape, im not using this as an excuse for where i'm at, I know why I am where I am and it's not being strict enough with my diet. But I hear a lot of ppl hear say genetics depends a lot but I would like to prove that wrong haha

So clean as diet, I have 6 weeks until I go away. Anyone have any specific programs or routines I should look into, or just be strict as hell with my diet and hard with my training?

I'm thinking on fasted cardio 3 times a week, texas method or sheiko (3 day workout) as well as my mma training. Hoping this will do it.

Most people don't have great genetics to put on muscle easily. If you work hard you can get to where you want to be. Consistantly do this and you will no doubt get results
- Lift heavy with mostly compound movements (incline bench, dumbell flyes, barbell rows, pull ups, barbell curls, squats, deadlifts, military press, upright rows, lunges) BASICS
- Reps between 8-15, keep switching it up
- Intensity such as drop sets, forced reps, negatives, rest pause
- Eat at least 4-5 clean meals a day, high protein, moderate carbs and fats, pre and post workout nutrition is most important
- Cardio 3-4 times a week (important to keep fat gain low and for overall health and recovery)
- Get sleep whenever you can
The more consistent anyone does this the more your body will change. It's all actually simple, however many people lack the drive to stay on this routine constantly.

 

[zedhed]

bgbay and all bros new and kinda new to this.
Get off the idea of genetics. It does not factor in till you are much much further along then most of us are on here!
I will say that again.
Get off the idea of genetics. It does not factor in till you and much much further along then most of us are on here!
I have a question for you bro. How did your mom look in here wedding pic. My mom is old and fat too now. But bro and to all you bros I gotta say I would of hit her back then and HARD. She was hot!
My dad is old and skinny. But in his wedding pic he is a good looking guy of that time.
Forget genetics unless you are in competitive shape.
I am blessed with structurully crappy knees. But I am 50 yrs old too. So that is the prime factor. I find that with proper medication and warm up and post care I can do squats. BTW I spent 2 yrs in a wheelchair after a cement truck wreck.
My little brother is the size of a buffalo. My older brother was but managed to cut it down by diet alone and has kept it off. And he is a truck driver btw.
My dad is 5'9". My mom is 5'3". Me and my brothers are all 6'+.
Genetics dont mean shit at our level.
Genetics dont mean shit in this day and age really at much of any level cuz of the drugs that we have access to.
My shoulders suck. They are full of arthritus but if I do what I need to do I can lift and lift pretty dam heavy too.
We all have issues. Most of us have challenges that are not genetic. Its called just life bro.
Im not shittin on you or anybody else but the genetic thing is way overdone by all of us.
So what I am saying is get that crap out of your head bro and be what you wanna be. Work hard. Get your diet in control and you will be successful!
Be safe and work hard.

 

[bgbay]

I'm going to work my best at being consistent, I have 6 weeks. The compound movements are the only ones I really like anyway and everything you said is what i'm working pretty hard at anyway. Thanks for the reassurance though. I'm planning on doing the Texas Method I believe. 3 days of compound lifts (will incorporate clean and press) and 4 days of cardio. (not including my mma classes)

Also, I eat approx 6 meals a day, spread out 2-3 hours. High protein,

 

[bgbay]

haha thanks ZedHed, I just seen so many people on here claim "genetics" play a factor in abs, and overall physical appearance. Some people can't achieve a cut look because of genetics. At least I have been doing a lot of reading here eh? hahah thanks for the clarity tho

 

[zedhed]

Now youre gettin it bro. And you are exactly right but I tell you the truth at the level that most of us are it dosnt mean jack shit. You believe that and you continue to study and learn and work and diet and you will be GR8!

 

[thelocal]

ZED i agree..i always get sick and tired of hearing people blame it on genetics..shiiit i have bad genetics but im not gonna let that beat me down form being the best me i can be,

people use it as a cop out

 

[bgbay]

true that, best thing I could of done was create a membership here. I"ve had memberships at other forums, and I find a lot of them are assholes. unless you ask the perfect question ppl jump down your throat, can't learn that way. Everyone here is extremely helpful.
Thanks!

heres what i eat like, incase anyone is interested in sayin somethin about it or makin suggestions.


7:45am
5 eggs (4 egg whites and 1 full egg)
Oatmeal (Quaker)

10-10:30am
Protein shake + 1/3 cup of almonds

12pm (Workout)

1pm
Can of Tuna, mixed with baby spinach

3pm
Smaller can of Tuna (flavored)
OR
Protein shake
1/3 cup of almonds

5-6pm
Steak(size of fist) with veggies (george foreman grill to cook)
or
2 pieces of grilled chicken with a cup of spinach

8-9pm
Protein shake
almonds
OR
fiber bar
almonds



This is a typical day for me.

 

[WinnyPumps]

You need to eat more quality carbs and up the protein around your workout. You will lose weight eating like that but lose muscle too.

Pre Workout- Protein Choices (Lean ground beef, chicken, fish, turkey, tuna)
Carb Choices (sweet potato, brown rice, ww pasta, oatmeal)

Post Workout- about 40-50g whey with creatine, glutamine, bcaa, and around 40g quick digesting carbs

 

[bgbay]

so maybe have more carbs with lunch? I might move my can of tuna a little closer to pre workout and have a thing of rice with it.

I usually drink need to build muscle replensiher after workout, I forgot to put that lol