How do people who get scaked get jobs so soon again?

[Trickie]

I know at least 3 people who have got sacked for nicking stuff and loads of others get the boot from companies for various reasons and they all seem to get jobs fairly quickly soon after....I'm curious as to how they do this as surely they will get asked for references - and all companies as far as I know ask for the most recent employer reference. Also if they sense that they are not working at time of interview surely they will sense something is up?
But just say a company sacked someone and still agree to give a reference (and remember they cant give a bad one by law) what happens if they get asked why did he/she leave will they then tell them that they were sacked or say that they resigned or what?

 

[havoc]

Any reference can be faked, you could have the possible new employer call a "friend/coworker" at the previous job and pretend to be a supervisor of some sorts, happens all the time, all the time.




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[RottenWillow]

But just say a company sacked someone and still agree to give a reference (and remember they cant give a bad one by law) what happens if they get asked why did he/she leave will they then tell them that they were sacked or say that they resigned or what?

In America at least I know you can definitely say why the person is no longer employed there if asked by a prospective employer. Where it gets foggy for me is what you can volunteer if not specifically asked.

 

[ChefWide]

I know at least 3 people who have got sacked for nicking stuff and loads of others get the boot from companies for various reasons and they all seem to get jobs fairly quickly soon after....I'm curious as to how they do this as surely they will get asked for references - and all companies as far as I know ask for the most recent employer reference. Also if they sense that they are not working at time of interview surely they will sense something is up?
But just say a company sacked someone and still agree to give a reference (and remember they cant give a bad one by law) what happens if they get asked why did he/she leave will they then tell them that they were sacked or say that they resigned or what?

"Yes, he worked here on those dates. No. Sorry, I can't answer that. Nope, sorry. The law says I can't give a total loser, idiot, thief, pedarist, union agitator terrorist a bad review, so sorry, I can't answer that. Your welcome, sorry I couldn't answer your questions."

 

[RottenWillow]

"Yes, he worked here on those dates. No. Sorry, I can't answer that. Nope, sorry. The law says I can't give a total loser, idiot, thief, pedarist, union agitator terrorist a bad review, so sorry, I can't answer that. Your welcome, sorry I couldn't answer your questions."

I dont think that's accurate. I think you can provide a factual account of their work history in answer to direct questions. I know there are guidelines in place to protect people against personal attacks, but the whole function of providing references would be crippled if the law were as restrictive as people characterized them.

 

[ChefWide]

I dont think that's accurate. I think you can provide a factual account of their work history in answer to direct questions. I know there are guidelines in place to protect people against personal attacks, but the whole function of providing references would be crippled if the law were as restrictive as people characterized them.

S A R C A S M

 

[RottenWillow]

S A R C A S M

Ok S A R C A S M aside, what exactly is your understanding of what is legal and what isnt? I'd appreciate your input.

 

[Code]

Yes, they can give a bad reference.

No laws exist that prevent someone from giving a bad reference.

*YOU* choose the references, so pick wisely.

(and remember they cant give a bad one by law)

 

[SoreArms]

I dont think that's accurate. I think you can provide a factual account of their work history in answer to direct questions. I know there are guidelines in place to protect people against personal attacks, but the whole function of providing references would be crippled if the law were as restrictive as people characterized them.

i thought you could only give the dates of employment and tell if they are eligable for re-hire. Talking specifics, i thought was against the law. MAybe just a Cali thing or am I making it up?

 

[RottenWillow]

Yes, they can give a bad reference.

No laws exist that prevent someone from giving a bad reference.

Thank you. Do you know what law it is that governs this issue? Would it be under the EEOC maybe?