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how come helladrol is for experienced users?
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Then you want beast, which is about 60% strength and 40% size.
Hella will give you more hardness and strength than size.
Epi is like hella, but not as mild
and diesel is more for size than anything.
Beast and dermacrine bridging with hella or epi is an amazing cycle!
It is indeed sir.
Bro with any of these products that are mentioed here you also need to do PCT.
I urge you not to start off on the wrong foot here.
Be patient and save your $$ till you can do it right.
By right I mean that you have everything that you need before you take your first pill.
Save yourself the hassle of bad sides and just save up and do it right.
Best of luck to you.
I urge you not to start off on the wrong foot here.
Be patient and save your $$ till you can do it right.
By right I mean that you have everything that you need before you take your first pill.
Save yourself the hassle of bad sides and just save up and do it right.
Best of luck to you.
Might be the best advice ive ever got! nice to see this kind of people on the board
Ill run either HCG or Clomid for pct, since it isent aromatising into estrogene ill not run any nolva due to the estrogene rebound that can occour when estrogene is elimated and raising after stopping an serm
ill run liv52 for liversupport
Ill run either HCG or Clomid for pct, since it isent aromatising into estrogene ill not run any nolva due to the estrogene rebound that can occour when estrogene is elimated and raising after stopping an serm
ill run liv52 for liversupport
The following is how I ran it several months ago:
1-4 Helladrol 1 cap am, 2 caps pre work out, 1 more cap before bed (total of 4 caps every day and yes take all 4 even on non work out days)
1-4 Forged Liver support 2 caps ed
1-4 HCgenerate 5 caps ed spread out.
4-8 Unleashed/post cycle 3 caps of each every day
4-8 FORMA-STANOZOLOL 5 pumps in the morning and 5 at night. Rub on the chest and upper body
1-6 Need2slin
I didn't have any sides, and my strength on my 5x5 program went up tremendously. Just something to take into account. Good luck.
1-4 Helladrol 1 cap am, 2 caps pre work out, 1 more cap before bed (total of 4 caps every day and yes take all 4 even on non work out days)
1-4 Forged Liver support 2 caps ed
1-4 HCgenerate 5 caps ed spread out.
4-8 Unleashed/post cycle 3 caps of each every day
4-8 FORMA-STANOZOLOL 5 pumps in the morning and 5 at night. Rub on the chest and upper body
1-6 Need2slin
I didn't have any sides, and my strength on my 5x5 program went up tremendously. Just something to take into account. Good luck.
HCG not to be run in PCT.
Clomid and forma stanzol is a great PCT.
Add in HCGenerate and it is perfect.
shibs
Stay frosty
hcg is NOT for pct man. i'd use some phytoserms-347 and unleashed/postcyle
illkickurass
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I don't get it then. Why is Helladrol the one only "for experienced users" ?
Diesel and Katanadrol 
Starlight
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Hey bro I would not run another oral with beast as it is very liver toxic !! You can run other orals together but I would be careful on which ones !!
as for the hcg I understand you are better off running it while on as it frees up test so it makes recovery easier.
Beast says the same thing on the bottle. I think it's just something to say to make sure the purchaser knows that they are buying a product that can potentially have sides.
needtogetaas
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Ya what this man said..
the reason the hella still says that its for experienced users is because the old dosing on the heladrol used to be 50mg per cap. that is a huge dose of 4-chlor per cap. 3 caps of that a day and ya that is for experienced users only lolol... but the new dose is 25mg per cap 180 caps per bottle.
needtogetaas
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wow ! so beast would be the best to choose if i wanted mass?
only got enough for one productlol
No if you wanted mass then deiselbolan is the king of mass my friend. eople can and have gained close to 50lb in 4-6 weeks on deisebolan.. With before and after pics to prove it.
epi strong is the most mild out of all of them but its no longer selling. it is getting discontinued and so will the rest of the products soon.
illkickurass
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So Helladrol is mostly for size/mass but Beastdrol is more hardness/strength? I thought Beast was for size/strength.. so damn confused.LOL
instant.muscle
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hella - strength, definition/cutter (tbol)
beastrol - size strength no bloat (tren)
diesel - size strength with bloat (dbol)
Katanadrol strength/definition/cutter or add to any other cycle because its non mythelated (winny)
beastrol - size strength no bloat (tren)
diesel - size strength with bloat (dbol)
Katanadrol strength/definition/cutter or add to any other cycle because its non mythelated (winny)
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needtogetaas
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needtogetaas
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Great
Since you say tren - dbol im thinking of that you might want to use some anti-e while running beast or diesel? since they aromatise or am i wrong?
Not needed well on beastdrol but some times it is needed after because of estrogen rebound. During deiselbolan ya you can use some.
Starlight
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whats all your opinion on the expiry date ?? I myself dont really care about them on meds but I have enough beast , hella and epi to last past the expiry on them , is there any REAL reason for the expiry date or not !!
And I dont want an answer like "they may go bad or something"
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keep them cool and dry and the exp date does not matter. What I tell people is use a air sealer and seal them up in a air tight bag. Place them in the fridge and they will last a life time like that. Air,heat,moisture is the 3 killers you have to worry about. Just sitting in the bottle they will last well past the exp date anyway
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Alot of supplement have expireing dates due to the state or what ever craveing it.
for example, all salt products do have expireing dates on them.. Funny thing is that ive bought salt wich was from acient places that was 2000years old
so in 2011 this acient salt will expire? i think not
exp dates are there to make the product legal, supplements acutally are good at keep on being OK after exp dates. food nah
for example, all salt products do have expireing dates on them.. Funny thing is that ive bought salt wich was from acient places that was 2000years old
so in 2011 this acient salt will expire? i think not
exp dates are there to make the product legal, supplements acutally are good at keep on being OK after exp dates. food nah
balancefighter
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Are these the actual compounds in the products or just what they compare to?
CoBra666
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4-chloro-17a-Methyl-Androsta-1, 4-diene-3,17-diol is the active compund in helladrol.
needtogetaas
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No they are different steroids with different nomenclatures. It just makes it easy for people to understand what to expect from these steroids when you compare them to other steroids. Except maybe the helladrol. That one has a nomenclatures that is almost identical to tbol.
balancefighter
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Thanks for laying that out bro. Been searching trying to find the break down for a long time.
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