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superqt4u2nv

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to do cardio before lifting? Do to my current circumstances being with out a car. I am going to have to walk to the gym in the am it is about 40 minute walk. I lift twice a day once in the am and then in the pm. Will it greatly effect my lifting?
 
Eat enough to compensate for the loss of calories if your goal is adding weight or strength.

Eat enough to compensate for the loss of calories if your goal is cutting so you don't fall into too great a defecit.

Be sure you don't tire yourself out in any way that it hinders your training.

In short - probably not.
 
As I said, just calculate how much you're burning, and how much you need to compensate. Eat too few calories, lose too much muscle. Eat too many, lose to little fat. Find a "sweet spot" and stick to it.

It's better to be more active and eat more to make up for it, rather than to simply eat less. So what you're doing will only help. This is due to better glycogen upload, nutrient partitioning, nutrient absorption, etc.
 
As far as overall calorie balance, as was already mentioned, just figure out how many extra calories you'll be burning and adjust your intake accordingly to maintain the desired cutting deficit.

Even (maybe even 'especially') when cutting, you need to ensure adequate calories around workouts. Given that it's not an intense activity (something like pre-workout HIIT would be a different story, obviously), as long as you make sure that you eat enough to have carbs/protein available for energy and repair during the workout, you'll be fine. Just have a large meal before heading out the door or take a shaker bottle with whey and ground-up oats for a quick pre-workout meal that you can drink 15-30 minutes beforehand without digestion causing problems (take a water bottle along and drink it on the way, if you want).
 
*MissFit* said:
SQ it's getting really cold u sure bout the walking
Yeah bundle up I will be fine. My comp prep start in January so I got to find away to do it all and the Subway doesn't start running tell 6 am.
 
superqt4u2nv said:
to do cardio before lifting? Do to my current circumstances being with out a car. I am going to have to walk to the gym in the am it is about 40 minute walk. I lift twice a day once in the am and then in the pm. Will it greatly effect my lifting?

get a BF w/a car... ;)

i really dont think walking will have any effect on your lifts at all... its low-impact & your HR will be below 70-80% of your max. I thinkyoull be ok :)
 
Yes i don't think it will effect u much either just compensate for the calories lost by eating my calories and it would help to bring along some whey protein in a bottle or some type of protein bar which ever is easiest.
 
view said:
your training with wieghts twice a day? not necessary at all, even before a contest.

Winning isn't necessary either if you put it that way....all depends how you want to look at it.
 
Dial_tone said:
Winning isn't necessary either if you put it that way....all depends how you want to look at it.

as far as I am concerned, if you can't get the job done in one session, you session wasn't very good. Doing cardio twice a day is one thing, but wiehgts? You will end causing more damage than good.
 
view said:
as far as I am concerned, if you can't get the job done in one session, you session wasn't very good. Doing cardio twice a day is one thing, but wiehgts? You will end causing more damage than good.

There are benefits to a higher frequency protocol.

You can get a summation effect from it.

Acute effects from each workout. Temporarily increased IGF-1 and testosterone, also helps to offset elevated cortisol levels.

Better potential loading by managing the CNS. It's easier to do ten sets over two sessions, rather than one.

Better nutrient partitioning.

"If you take two workouts with the same volume and the same caloric bulking diet, the more frequent one will create less "wasted calories" (less fat) and perhaps facilitate more efficient upload of glycogen than the less frequent one." - Jules

Just some food for thought.
 
Yes there are benefits, but the way superqt is training does not provide much in the way of benefits. It looks like a typical pro bber split and nothing like HST or something structured like that, in which case it would be beneficial.

Anthrax Invasion said:
There are benefits to a higher frequency protocol.

You can get a summation effect from it.

Acute effects from each workout. Temporarily increased IGF-1 and testosterone, also helps to offset elevated cortisol levels.

Better potential loading by managing the CNS. It's easier to do ten sets over two sessions, rather than one.

Better nutrient partitioning.

"If you take two workouts with the same volume and the same caloric bulking diet, the more frequent one will create less "wasted calories" (less fat) and perhaps facilitate more efficient upload of glycogen than the less frequent one." - Jules

Just some food for thought.
 
for example here are two days out of her log:
Chest & Triceps
*rest between sets 30-60 seconds
Incline Bench (BB) 15 x 55, 12 x 60, 10 x 65, 8 x 75
Bench press (DB) drop sets 12 x 35/8x25, 10x35/6x25, 8x35/4x25
Incline flys 12x25, 12x25, 10x25
Cable cross overs 10 x 50, 10x50
Overhead tricep extensions (DB) 12 x 30, 10x30, 8x30, 8x30
Tricep pushdown 10x60, 10x60, 8x60
Reverse tricep pushdown drop set 45x12/35x8, 45x10/35x6
One arm pushdowns 20x20 each side

Legs Biceps & Abs
Squats 15 x 65, 12 x 85, 10 x 95, 8 x 115
Smith lunges 12 x 50, 10 x 50 x 2
SS* Lying leg curl 12 x 80, 10 x 80 x 2
SS Leg Extentions 10 x 75, 8 x 75 x 2
SS standing calf raise 15 x 180, 15 x 180, 10 x 180
SS seated calf raise 15 x 60, 15 x 60, 10 x 60
DB Bicep Curls DS* 10x20/6x15, 8x20/6x15x2
SS Preacher curls 12x35, 10x35x2
SS Hammer curls 10x15, 8x15x2
Wrist curls 15 x 25, 12 x 25, 10 x 25
Abs were all done to fatigue didn't count the reps
SS Riased legs crunches
SS Roman chair leg lifts
 
Dont mention you got that program from a trainer at bally :lol:

walking in this weather is nuts babe you'll catch cold.. in summer its a great way to warm up for legs but get that car fixed
 
Tweakle said:
Dont mention you got that program from a trainer at bally :lol:

walking in this weather is nuts babe you'll catch cold.. in summer its a great way to warm up for legs but get that car fixed
It is dead I will be fine it ain't that cold you big wussy!
 
view said:
also superqt, you ever here of a bus pass?
Got one subway does not start running tell 6 am here it is what I need to do to fit everything in. Also my split is not up for cristism as for training twice a day it works very well ask Needsize did it precontest not sure if he is still doing it but it works for me and many others.
 
bignate73 said:
"pro" trainer...hehe...vs an "amateur" trainer?
Yes smart ass I mean his focus is training people that compete he himself competes and he has trained with some of the best trainers in my area smart guy. Plus it doesn't hurt that he is a friend and puts my splits together for free.
 
so first question: are you in shape enough to walk there and not be tired? (serious question...that has relevance to your answer)

if you can handle it, no problem, then your answer should be simply..."that would be a warmup, and have little to no effect on my workout."

case closed....

since you arent in the final days where each calorie matters, then a little over or under won't make a difference. burn a little more, eat a little more, or not. as long as you are losing at the right pace for your goal. if not you can adjust up or down accordingly.
 
bignate73 said:
so first question: are you in shape enough to walk there and not be tired? (serious question...that has relevance to your answer)

if you can handle it, no problem, then your answer should be simply..."that would be a warmup, and have little to no effect on my workout."

case closed....

since you arent in the final days where each calorie matters, then a little over or under won't make a difference. burn a little more, eat a little more, or not. as long as you are losing at the right pace for your goal. if not you can adjust up or down accordingly.
Yeah I saw it more as a warm up just that a normal warm up to me is like 20 minutes max.
 
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