How about TRT + SARM's

[hannes joubert]

But on the other hand, would the sarms compete with the free t at the receptor? So, would taking both together not result in less than stellar results compared to taking the two individually?? Zat is de kwession

 

[XMAN.]

i think in the near future i'm gona try adding sarms to my hrt regimen , instead of 250mg test e i'll be doing 150mg test e + 25 mg S-4
it's nice that sarmssearch added my country to their shipping list cuz it wasn't their b4 (LEBANON) just need to save some bucks for it but for sure i'm gona do it and see what happens.
30 ml of 100mg each that'll give me 120 servings of 25mg , means it'll last for 4 months, that's nice and efficient.

 

[XMAN.]

But on the other hand, would the sarms compete with the free t at the receptor? So, would taking both together not result in less than stellar results compared to taking the two individually?? Zat is de kwession

i don't think so, they'll compliment each other, after all ur using a low doses of both ur not over saturated like doing heavy cycles of AAS

 

[doublebicep]

Hey the DoubleBi. What we need to find out is why?? I thought that the two protocols would not interfere with one another and that infact the sum of the whole would add up to be more effective than the sum of the parts if taken individually...

Not sure if any synergy would come into play if you ran both. Of course you would get the benefits of both. Why would you think they might?

I agree, I see no downside with running both esp if the amounts are HRT levels - no competition or interference issues.

It would be interesting to hear out how it goes if anyone does or is running both in an HRT regime.

 

[XMAN.]

Not sure if any synergy would come into play if you ran both. Of course you would get the benefits of both. Why would you think they might?

I agree, I see no downside with running both esp if the amounts are HRT levels - no competition or interference issues.

It would be interesting to hear out how it goes if anyone does or is running both in an HRT regime.

what we're guessing here is if sarms may let us minimize the required amount of test (hrt) to treat the symptoms (cuz we know it won't totally replace it) but at least some of us can avoid or minimize some androgenic sides, like myself i'm very prone to acne , i was thinking if cutting my test dose in half and adding a little amount of sarms like 25mg/ed will it be enough to compensate for the half subtracted ?

 

[hannes joubert]

what we're guessing here is if sarms may let us minimize the required amount of test (hrt) to treat the symptoms (cuz we know it won't totally replace it) but at least some of us can avoid or minimize some androgenic sides, like myself i'm very prone to acne , i was thinking if cutting my test dose in half and adding a little amount of sarms like 25mg/ed will it be enough to compensate for the half subtracted ?

Hey X.

Hmmm. The mechanisms of the two therapies are different so I am not entirely convinced that reducing your T dosage due to adding SARMS is a good idea...

No concrete evidence of course, just random ramblings, but, because the two therapies are different, you might be wasting your money and short changing yourself by halving your dosages of the two items (half current T dose and only 25mg SARMS/ed) because the serum levels of the two items won't be high enough to make a notable difference, even if taken at the same time.

I would suggest maybe that you cycle the SARMS on top of the TRT, but again, you stated your problem is acne...Perhaps you could change your current T for a T that is less androgenic (is that even possible)??

Good luck on your search my friend.

H

 

[XMAN.]

Hey X.

Hmmm. The mechanisms of the two therapies are different so I am not entirely convinced that reducing your T dosage due to adding SARMS is a good idea...

No concrete evidence of course, just random ramblings, but, because the two therapies are different, you might be wasting your money and short changing yourself by halving your dosages of the two items (half current T dose and only 25mg SARMS/ed) because the serum levels of the two items won't be high enough to make a notable difference, even if taken at the same time.

I would suggest maybe that you cycle the SARMS on top of the TRT, but again, you stated your problem is acne...Perhaps you could change your current T for a T that is less androgenic (is that even possible)??

Good luck on your search my friend.

H

the thing is sarms were created in an attempt to replace synthetic testosterone to minimize the sides from it. their action is to agonize the same androgenic receptors in skeletal muscles of the main male sex hormone testosterone but not other receptors like internal organs and specifically prostate and it cannot be reduced by the 5 alpha reductase enzyme to DHT which is the pure androgenic form of test and the main culprit for oily skin acne facial and body hair growth, scalp hair loss and of course prostate enlargement.
so it's addition to test must have some anabolic synergy and with less sides , the main issue here is to keep some numbers elevated to treat the symptoms but with minimal sides, many on this board reported positive feedback using S-4 like the energizing effect of it and the general sense of well being and a good boost in the libido department , and RADAR was on of them.
so my conclusion is to keep some of the test prescribed as it's necessary in a certain minimal amount cuz it's the source of the production of other sex hormones like estro and DHT whoich we cannot live without and add some S-4 to boost anabolism and the general sense of well being , and by that cutting the test dose and minimizing the sides or even the potentially long term future sides.
i myself want to try it in the near future , i think i'm gona drop from 250mg test/w to 125mg/w and add 25mg/ed of S-4 and c what happens and i'm also interested in adding some peptides too in the regimen like 100mcg of each ghrp-2 and GRF 1-29 pre-bed for a full GH restoration, and of course when i do that i'll be posting here on this forum.

 

[hannes joubert]

Sounds like you have your mind made up already

Hope it works out... Let us know how things shape up. If the guys are really using T for HRT purposes only, then they should be stoked to find out that they can reduce dosages...

Congrats, you are the boards newest lab rat ...

Have a good weekend

 

[XMAN.]

Sounds like you have your mind made up already

Hope it works out... Let us know how things shape up. If the guys are really using T for HRT purposes only, then they should be stoked to find out that they can reduce dosages...

Congrats, you are the boards newest lab rat ...

Have a good weekend

lol aren't we all ? or most of us at least ?

 

[at(almost)ANYcost]

Thought it better to post this question in a new thread as the old thread was not getting much attention

Okay, thanks Radar, read through the whole log....

What I would now like to know is can we run SARM's whilst on TRT? It sounds to me as though SARM's in and of themselves are very beneficial, especially regarding the body recomp.

Has anyone tried to run a course of SARM's on top of TRT? Can it be stacked with test e? Should the dosage of the T be reduced because of the addition of the SARM's?

Any info and replies would be appreciated as usual.

Peace Bro's

H

BTW, the SARM's I can get hold of is Andarine 50 (S-4) 50mg capsules. Is this the same thing that Radar was using? Radar, any comments?

Just wanted to let you know I am going to be using S1 (and also ordered S4) from SARMSSEARCH while on cycle of Test, I did a big search today and over the last week or two of all the SARMS threads, and during my research I've been making a lot of great discoveries and also finally decided SARMSSEARCH is simply the only reliable source to purchase these items from.

You can PM me if you want, and I'll give you more information, my journal isn't kept on this forum specifically, so I don't want to break the rules.