HMB dosage Question.... please check out.

[u4ik_RAGE]

You prove my point more and more with every post you make.

HMB is isolated from L-leucine, one of the 3 BCAAs. BCAA formulas are ideally found with 50% Leucine and 25% each of Isoleucine and valine. There's a reason for more of the leucine. Why do you think they make supplements with only loads of glutamine and leucine and hardly any of the other 2 BCAAs? On a gram per gram basis, BCAAs and HMB have very similar anti-catobolic properties.

You can get as mad as you want and make weak attempts at insults that show your maturity (or lack of) and tell me to shut up, but I'll keep posting. By the way, HMB can be found in powder form, so enough with the 80 cap comments. If creatine came in 250mg caps, would you load up on 20 caps 3 times a day?

For the record, I have never recommended HMB to anyone in my life. If the prices of HMB and L-glutamine were vice versa, people would be bashing l-glutamine. But since l-glutamine is so cost effective it is one of the staples in a supplement program. I don't know everything about supplements but I obviously know more than you.

Dangerous advice? A lot of people recommend 2-5 grams of L-glutamine a day. Do you think taking 50+ grams of L-glutamine is dangerous? Nugga, please

 

[CytoMel]

HMB and BCAA's ARE NOT THE SAME!!

You keep saying that HMB and BCAA's are the same thing..
With lies like this how can anyone believe you??

They are not the same. Andro and testosterone are simmilar but NOT the SAME.

How do you know that high doss of HMB wrk if you have never taken them or don't know anyone who has.

By the way folks, this dude is sending me a ton of junk mail. I don't know what you are trying to sell HULK but please stop sending that jun mail. Just because you are into gay porn doesn't mean that others are also.

You started this by ripping my first post that said HMB is worthless, yet you yourself hasnt tried a megadse of it and you yourself doesnt recommend HMB. So you are sticking up for a product that you wouldnt recommend to anyone. That is why you are a fool.

 

[u4ik_RAGE]

Why don't read the original post. I was answering his question. I'm sure I've helped him with his decision if he can indeed get HMB for close to nothing.

I would try 20mg of HMB if it was decently priced like glutamine, but it's not. That is not a megadose, by any means. If you knew more about the substance in question, you would know that. You have a serious comprehension problem and keep proving your ignorance.

Keep twisting things to your liking but I never once said HMB and BCAAs are the same thing. I never said I don't know anyone who hasn't tried a much higher does. I've seen a post on this board in which the poster claimed taking 12 grams and a personal friend that worked for a company called supplement direct about 20 miles from my house. Both of them stated they noticed less muscle soreness and were able to work out longer and the same body parts on less rest.

You remind me of someone I knew that bought 800CCs of Deca for an 8 week cycle and then called it fake because he got no gains. What a dumbass and a waste of my time, both of you uninformed retards.

 

[CytoMel]

Until you take that 20 gram HMB dose that you promote and report results on consistet
use of it you are full of shit.

Until you practice what you preach you are nothing but a wannabee supplement expert would rather theroize and start feuds about supplements than train hard and try it yourself.

 

[u4ik_RAGE]

Until you take that 20 gram HMB dose that you promote and report results on consistet use of it you are full of shit.

Until you practice what you preach you are nothing but a wannabee supplement expert would rather theroize and start feuds about supplements than train hard and try it yourself.

You sound like a broken record repeating the same thing over. Your argument is weak but you argue for argument's sake. Your posts are now trying to question my supplement knowledge and training intensity? WTF does this have to do with the topic?? You are hopelessly outclassed here, so you try to attack this at any angle left, but the actual supplement itself.

All your extensive knowlegde of HMB comes from the feedback of people time and time again saying the 3 grams didn't do jack. Stop being one of the sheep and think for yourself. There are a lot of things I haven't tried. Many of them can be helpful if you know how to use them and worthless to the imbeciles that don't.

You should stay out of subjects you don't know about. Otherwise you just argue without knowing what you're talking about. And you're a fuckin' idiot for thinking I promote HMB. Here's where you repeat something you already said that doesn't relate directly to the topic.

 

[riskybizz007]

This thread is getting out of hand. My question is this, why buy HMB at all? If the main ingredient is a "form" of L-leucine, why not just by the friggin L-leucine and save tons of money in the process? Or better yet.... get BCAA powder and save a ton. Why is HMB so necessary and how would it differ from regular L-leucine or BCAA powder, which is less than half the price.

And for a 20g dose... I would seriously look at the other 2 options if you think L-leucine is that great.

 

[CytoMel]

You sound like a broken record repeating the same thing over. Your argument is weak but you argue for argument's sake. Your posts are now trying to question my supplement knowledge and training intensity? WTF does this have to do with the topic?? You are hopelessly outclassed here, so you try to attack this at any angle left, but the actual supplement itself.

All your extensive knowlegde of HMB comes from the feedback of people time and time again saying the 3 grams didn't do jack. Stop being one of the sheep and think for yourself. There are a lot of things I haven't tried. Many of them can be helpful if you know how to use them and worthless to the imbeciles that don't.

You should stay out of subjects you don't know about. Otherwise you just argue without knowing what you're talking about. And you're a fuckin' idiot for thinking I promote HMB. Here's where you repeat something you already said that doesn't relate directly to the topic.

Sorry shithead, nobody wants to buy your worhless HMB supplements.

There is no way that you are gonna scam the informed members of this board with your fake HMB. So you have a ton of HMB for sale? Don't try to tell us it works just so you can sell it!

You should think twice about attacking people's posts like when you started the feud at the top of this thead.

And I dont think anyone will want to buy from you with your pushy lie containing posts. I was actually interested in buying before I found out that you are an annoying HMB scammer.

I tried HMB before and it didnt do shit for me. I wasted a lot of $ on it too. And people like you try to act like it works just so you can sell it! What a scammer you are! I suggest you leave the supplement business and do something else besides promote useless supplements that you yourself would never take.

HMB DOESN"T WORK! WAKE UP SCAMMER!

007 you are right HMB is garbage and so is a 20 gram dose.

 

[u4ik_RAGE]

This thread is getting out of hand. My question is this, why buy HMB at all? If the main ingredient is a "form" of L-leucine, why not just by the friggin L-leucine and save tons of money in the process? Or better yet.... get BCAA powder and save a ton. Why is HMB so necessary and how would it differ from regular L-leucine or BCAA powder, which is less than half the price.

And for a 20g dose... I would seriously look at the other 2 options if you think L-leucine is that great.

Risky, BCAAs are a much better choice for 99.9% of the population because of the cost issue. You can get 200 grams at beyond-a-century.com for 14.50. Here's a link:
https://www2.acadia.net/cgi-bin/BAC/web_store.cgi?product=Amino_Acids&cart_id=6760864_24234

I believe you can find an article on optimal use at www.charlespoliquin.net, because Chuck is big on BCAAs.

Now Cytomel, are you going to claim I own those websites and I'm posting the links to make myself some money? Give it up, I'm not selling HMB, and never claimed to, so stop implying it. I'm answering the question of the first poster who said he can get HMB for almost free.

And yes, I know you'll keep claiming I sell HMB at any attempt to win this argument, but you can't because you are hopelessly uninformed.

 

[riskybizz007]

B-A-C is a good company, I bought their BCAA's before and dumped it into my whey shakes. I couldn't stand taking them in just water or juice though, the flakes will not dissolve.

As far as Charle's site, it doesn't work. Can you send me the link again?

And as far as regular BCAA's, it seems from what you're saying they've very similar to HMB. IMO it just might be better, there's 2 more amino's w/ regular BCAA's. I've also read on L-Lysine a lot, it being one of the 1st amino's to go when working out. W/ that said, we all know how important BCAAs are, Glutamine, some know of Lysine, Taurine (2nd most abundant next to glutamine), but would it really make sense to supplement w/ all of these? IMO it doesn't, too many that are too important.

 

[u4ik_RAGE]

B-A-C is a good company.

Yes, they are very reputable. I have bought ALA and Taurine from them before and may try their BCAAs in the near future. Their powder has a very good ratio of the aminos, where-as Kilosports is less optimal (and more expensive).

As far as Charle's site, it doesn't work. Can you send me the link again?
I put a coma at the end so it didn't work. www.charlespoliquin.net
I'm a friend of the girl on the cover of his next book.

And as far as regular BCAA's, it seems from what you're saying they've very similar to HMB. IMO it just might be better, there's 2 more amino's w/ regular BCAA's. I've also read on L-Lysine a lot, it being one of the 1st amino's to go when working out. W/ that said, we all know how important BCAAs are, Glutamine, some know of Lysine, Taurine (2nd most abundant next to glutamine), but would it really make sense to supplement w/ all of these? IMO it doesn't, too many that are too important.

This is making things way too complicated in my opinion. It reminds me of the people who take a multi and then supplement extra b-12, calcium, manganese, etc. without a reason. Whey is basicly, for lack of a better term a multi-amino. What I usually do (not now because I'm on a CKD diet) for my during workout drink is about 50 grams of whey, 40 maltodextrin and 30 dextrose (this is a during workout drink, not all at once). I've experimented and this seems to work best for me though some might get an upset stomach.
Whey has a good breakdown of those aminos you mentioned (except glutamine) and typical whey will have 6-7 grams BCAAs per 50. Poliquin says he tried a huge dose (20-40) and got awesome recovery, workout endurance, etc. In my opinion though, the whey and carbs are all you need if you want it cost effective and not go broke trying to add everything in the mix. Take the glutamine before and after workout, since it isn't stable in water very long.