High-dose cycle... advice please.

[SCOTTY-TWO-HOTTY]

This is for my training partner... here are his stats:
6'2" 260lbs (12%BF)
The guy's a bit of a freak... he weighs 80lbs more than I do and his waist is the same size as me. He's a veteran of several cycles, typically Test/Tren stacks that total 1000mg-1500mg/week. Here's the cycle he wants to start this week... he's got all the gear on hand ready to go. Just waiting for some final words from my Bros at Elite.

Omnadren 1000mg/week>>weeks 1-12

Deca 800mg/week>>>>>>>weeks 1-12

Winstrol(oral)50mg/ED>>>>weeks 4-12

He has no experience with Deca and Winstrol... that's why he's like to hear from you.

Thanks,
Scott.

 

[Mavy]

Hey Scotty,

He is a big dude, and thyat is a pretty big cycle. I hope that he is comfortable with this and that he has been alright on high dosages like this before.

I would DEFINATELY have plenty anti-e's on hand. The winny is going to help with this, but I would run arimidex though the whole thing, and have plenty of nolva on hand. Maybe some proviron in the last few weeks as well.

I would be mainly worried about the high dose of Deca. Most of his gains are going to be because of this, even more so than the gram of test I bet. It will make him very dense and thick. I would be worried about prog enduced gyno. Tell him to keep a close eye on it. Remember that it is much harder to stop and treat. If he dosent want to lower his dose, I would switch the deca for EQ. EQ at 800 will give nice gains, not as much as the deca, but it has less sides to worry about.

Also, make sure that he has a sweet postcycle therapy plan and all the stuff ready. I mean HCG clomid, herbs the whole works. He may find deca hard to recover from, many find if very very hard even months later, especially for mr. wood. I hope that he dosent have a g-friend, if so might want to get some viagra until he is fully recovered. Make sure your bro is aware of Deca Dick ... may scare him out of it and into some EQ.

Either way, hope he does alright.
CHeers,
Mavy

 

[Big BX]

I would lower the deca to 500mg. That is plenty. If not like Mavy said EQ would be the way to go. Also, if he uses EQ he could throw tren in the mix at any time.

 

[flex2win]

this looks like a recipe for progesterone gyno...i could be wrong, anti e's are going to be a must!!

 

[Silent Method]

Ditto on the deca. Even 2Thick said that 400 mg per week of deca is a good upper limit for vets. That would shoot him into 1400 mg of gear per week (excluding the winny) while utilizing a compound he has never touched.

If he wants more, d-bol might be a great kickstart for him.

 

[SCOTTY-TWO-HOTTY]

Thanks guys... he appreciates your words of advice. He's going to run the Deca at 600mg/week. Really looking forward to the dense and thickness descibed by Mavy. If his nutrition's on point... he could hit a hard 300lbs on this one.

 

[BigAndy69]

Scotty, that deca dose seems excessive for a first time user. Also, I think he should stop the omnas at Week 8 and run prop the last 4 weeks. Maybe a 1500mg omna frontload the first two weeks would be good. I love the addition of winny.