Bravo75 said:Alright, do you inject GH everyday, 5 days on 2 days off, or any other way? And how long should you be on GH to see results? Is three or four months enough?
Bravo75 said:IRG&in charge thanks for your advice..very well said! Im looking to put on mass. I just did a show, my pic is actually in my avatar from one of the shows. I am trying to put on if possible a solid twenty pounds of mass by next summer so I can compete again. Thats the reason im asking about how much GH I should do.
lrg&inCHARGE said:you also need to post up what your goals are, are you looking to cut up? or put on weight. Most guys that say if you want to take off the body fat you only need 3-4 IU/day max with winstrol and t3/clen would be a good stack. If your looking to put on weight you probably want to still use the t3, add in some good test, and use insulin (need to know what your doing b4 you mess around with this stuff) and a lot of guys say 4-6 IU/day.
You best bet is to wait until some of the vets are online and they can give you all the info you need, but you can't just take what everyone says on here as fact, do a bunch of research yourself b4 you get into it.
A minimum of 3 months or your just going to be wasting your time and money.
Bravo75 said:im just trying to figure out how many months to get the results from GH that everyone seems to be raving about... this stuff is soo expensive and Im giving it one shot and wanna make it worth my money
Bravo75 said:IRG&in charge thanks for your advice..very well said! Im looking to put on mass. I just did a show, my pic is actually in my avatar from one of the shows. I am trying to put on if possible a solid twenty pounds of mass by next summer so I can compete again. Thats the reason im asking about how much GH I should do.
faaassst said:You obviously need to read up a lot more on GH. Research has shown again and again that GH is non anabolic or only mildly anabolic. An increase in lean body mass has been noted, however, lean body mass does not necessarily mean muscle, but anything that is not fat. This includes water, organ tissue growth, bone mass and connective tissue growth.
Bravo75 said:im just trying to figure out how many months to get the results from GH that everyone seems to be raving about... this stuff is soo expensive and Im giving it one shot and wanna make it worth my money
Bravo75 said:Listen bro..Ive done a lot of research and have a good knowledge of this stuff..but the truth of all this crap is this....everyone responds differently to gear. I am looking for what others have experienced from effects to gains to all other aspects of this substance.
If you have done enough of this over years you will know that I may respond immediately and amazingly to a substance such as primobolan but you may not...this goes for growth as well.
So, all in all im trying to get a "consensus" of the results and gains achieved from other gear users thats all.
I dont need to do anymore reasearch that will give me a bunch of statistical mumbo jumbo on individuals over 50 that have retained some muscle mass.
But thanks for your input anyway.
I wouldnt say jack shit, but youre pretty damn close...faaassst said:Try taking it on its own for 6 months so that you can find out for yourself that it does jack shit for increasing muscle mass and strength.
Very true.faaassst said:You shouldn't make comparisons between anabolics and GH, lumping all under your category of "gear".
Originally Posted by faaassst
You obviously need to read up a lot more on GH. Research has shown again and again that GH is non anabolic or only mildly anabolic. An increase in lean body mass has been noted, however, lean body mass does not necessarily mean muscle, but anything that is not fat. This includes water, organ tissue growth, bone mass and connective tissue growth.
Yep i agree with you that you shouldn't belive what you read on the net, that's why i don't give a damn about peoples "personal experience"lrg&inCHARGE said:You gotta stop copying and pasting these comments, it does nothign to help him out with the information he's looking for. Your going on the information that you've been reading in books and the internet which is ALL conflicting, some for HGH use and some saying it does absolutely nothing. I've seen what HGH does, for someone that wants to lower BF% and i've also seen what it can do when stacked properly for weight gain, maybe it was mostly the rest of the gear he was taking but he blew up like i've never seen anyone blow up b4. You could say the same about other gear, without the proper training/diet and correct dosing etc you won't see the results you want and it also depends on the person, some people just get good results from using certain gear, i dunno wut it is, genetics maybe. You give a 120 pound kid a gram of test and a-50's for a month and a half and wuts gonna happen... he's gonna grow DD titties and have mine feild of zits on his entire body. BOttom line is, do the research but remember not everything u read on the net is 100%.
Güclü_oglan said:Yep i agree with you that you shouldn't belive what you read on the net, that's why i don't give a damn about peoples "personal experience"
I have read alot about this and there is NO scientifical evidence that GH would help hypertrophy of muscletissue. A matter of a fact is that the liverproduced IGF-1 caused by the GH (what was supposed to be the anabolic part) has shown to be catabolic in pigs and rats
If you're out for packing on mass bro you're about to waste some cash, but gh is great with T3 and longer esterified androgens for cutting. But for building muscle you will be severely dissapointed unless you're one of the placebo juicers...
take care
faaassst said:Exactly. This is what I was referring to. The people who make gains in muscle hypertrophy while taking hgh are invariably stacking it with AAS.
Although hgh has several benefits when taken alone, muscle anabolism is not one of them.
of course people can respond differently to compounds, but when studies are made and prove that there is no physical connection between endogen and exogen GH you have to realise that the dealers crap is bull, aspecially when the liverproduced IGF-1 has turned out to be CATABOLIC in pigs and ratsed2005 said:Totally untrue! I am and have been taking GH in very low doses of 2ius 5/2 increasing to 3ius 5/2. I am in my 4th month of my current GH cycle and have gained substantial and very noticable muscle tissue growth as well as a major BF loss. I have NOT used AAs during this cycle. I have only added IGF1 for 4 weeks and have recently added 12.5mcg of T3. I experienced results after only 1 week of use which proves the points above that everyone reacts different to different substances. The overall results from GH only use in my case have been simply amazing. My opinion would be if you can afford it go for it and then make the decission whether it works wonders for you or not, only a personal trial will produce the evidence first hand. If you decide to go I'll be glad to help..
Cheers
Ed
Güclü_oglan said:of course people can respond differently to compounds, but when studies are made and prove that there is no physical connection between endogen and exogen GH you have to realise that the dealers crap is bull, aspecially when the liverproduced IGF-1 has turned out to be CATABOLIC in pigs and rats
i'd rather eat carrots then GH if mass was what i was out for

sure if it increases your motivation go ahead with it bro, but i would like to see a study that actually says that it has a positive role before i recommend other people to waste loads of cash. Also exogen GH does not support the buildup of muscletissue in growth deficient childrened2005 said:Sorry bro but that is not fact. You show me the scientific study that proves added GH in atheletes does not assist in muscle growth and I'll eat my computer. The 'studies' in pigs and rats have absolutely no bearing on GH usage in atheletes and niether does studies carried out on growth deficient children. You can 'quote' all you want but I can tell you first hand, categorically and emphatically that GH gave me new improved, enlarged, harder, stronger muscle mass and size combined with fat loss.... No 'study' on pigs or rats can take that away from me.....
Enjoy your carrots and I'll keep growing......![]()
Güclü_oglan said:sure if it increases your motivation go ahead with it bro, but i would like to see a study that actually says that it has a positive role before i recommend other people to waste loads of cash. Also exogen GH does not support the buildup of muscletissue in growth deficient children
yup but i think it has been proven that the liverproduced IGF-1 has been shown not to be positive for muscletissue either but i can't tell you for sure tonight but i'll check it out until tomorrowed2005 said:Not beefing you bro, just telling it like it is....I have never seen a proper scientific study carried out on athletes who specifically use GH. I do not need a study, I have tried it and I have seen the results first hand. I deliberately used no AAS whilst on this time so I could get my own conclusive proof. I am a hard gainer and placebo does not even enter into the equation. I recommend it on my own experience and not on that of rat studies. It's up to the individual to make his/her own decision. But remember rats and pigs aren't allowed in the gym.....![]()
Ed
Güclü_oglan said:yup but i think it has been proven that the liverproduced IGF-1 has been shown not to be positive for muscletissue either but i can't tell you for sure tonight but i'll check it out until tomorrow
i would use it for pre-contest along with alot of AAS and t3 with a good dietBravo75 said:Bottom line here bro's, does it work for muscle mass with AAS in the off season? Or should I save it for pre-contest?
ed2005 said:show me the scientific study that proves added GH in atheletes does not assist in muscle growth![]()
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