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Güclü_oglan said:
Yep i agree with you that you shouldn't belive what you read on the net, that's why i don't give a damn about peoples "personal experience"

I have read alot about this and there is NO scientifical evidence that GH would help hypertrophy of muscletissue. A matter of a fact is that the liverproduced IGF-1 caused by the GH (what was supposed to be the anabolic part) has shown to be catabolic in pigs and rats

If you're out for packing on mass bro you're about to waste some cash, but gh is great with T3 and longer esterified androgens for cutting. But for building muscle you will be severely dissapointed unless you're one of the placebo juicers...

take care


Exactly. This is what I was referring to. The people who make gains in muscle hypertrophy while taking hgh are invariably stacking it with AAS.
Although hgh has several benefits when taken alone, muscle anabolism is not one of them.
 
faaassst said:
Exactly. This is what I was referring to. The people who make gains in muscle hypertrophy while taking hgh are invariably stacking it with AAS.
Although hgh has several benefits when taken alone, muscle anabolism is not one of them.

Totally untrue! I am and have been taking GH in very low doses of 2ius 5/2 increasing to 3ius 5/2. I am in my 4th month of my current GH cycle and have gained substantial and very noticable muscle tissue growth as well as a major BF loss. I have NOT used AAs during this cycle. I have only added IGF1 for 4 weeks and have recently added 12.5mcg of T3. I experienced results after only 1 week of use which proves the points above that everyone reacts different to different substances. The overall results from GH only use in my case have been simply amazing. My opinion would be if you can afford it go for it and then make the decission whether it works wonders for you or not, only a personal trial will produce the evidence first hand. If you decide to go I'll be glad to help..
Cheers
Ed
 
ed2005 said:
Totally untrue! I am and have been taking GH in very low doses of 2ius 5/2 increasing to 3ius 5/2. I am in my 4th month of my current GH cycle and have gained substantial and very noticable muscle tissue growth as well as a major BF loss. I have NOT used AAs during this cycle. I have only added IGF1 for 4 weeks and have recently added 12.5mcg of T3. I experienced results after only 1 week of use which proves the points above that everyone reacts different to different substances. The overall results from GH only use in my case have been simply amazing. My opinion would be if you can afford it go for it and then make the decission whether it works wonders for you or not, only a personal trial will produce the evidence first hand. If you decide to go I'll be glad to help..
Cheers
Ed
of course people can respond differently to compounds, but when studies are made and prove that there is no physical connection between endogen and exogen GH you have to realise that the dealers crap is bull, aspecially when the liverproduced IGF-1 has turned out to be CATABOLIC in pigs and rats

i'd rather eat carrots then GH if mass was what i was out for
 
Güclü_oglan said:
of course people can respond differently to compounds, but when studies are made and prove that there is no physical connection between endogen and exogen GH you have to realise that the dealers crap is bull, aspecially when the liverproduced IGF-1 has turned out to be CATABOLIC in pigs and rats

i'd rather eat carrots then GH if mass was what i was out for

Sorry bro but that is not fact. You show me the scientific study that proves added GH in atheletes does not assist in muscle growth and I'll eat my computer. The 'studies' in pigs and rats have absolutely no bearing on GH usage in atheletes and niether does studies carried out on growth deficient children. You can 'quote' all you want but I can tell you first hand, categorically and emphatically that GH gave me new improved, enlarged, harder, stronger muscle mass and size combined with fat loss.... No 'study' on pigs or rats can take that away from me.....
Enjoy your carrots and I'll keep growing...... :qt:
 
ed2005 said:
Sorry bro but that is not fact. You show me the scientific study that proves added GH in atheletes does not assist in muscle growth and I'll eat my computer. The 'studies' in pigs and rats have absolutely no bearing on GH usage in atheletes and niether does studies carried out on growth deficient children. You can 'quote' all you want but I can tell you first hand, categorically and emphatically that GH gave me new improved, enlarged, harder, stronger muscle mass and size combined with fat loss.... No 'study' on pigs or rats can take that away from me.....
Enjoy your carrots and I'll keep growing...... :qt:
sure if it increases your motivation go ahead with it bro, but i would like to see a study that actually says that it has a positive role before i recommend other people to waste loads of cash. Also exogen GH does not support the buildup of muscletissue in growth deficient children
 
Güclü_oglan said:
sure if it increases your motivation go ahead with it bro, but i would like to see a study that actually says that it has a positive role before i recommend other people to waste loads of cash. Also exogen GH does not support the buildup of muscletissue in growth deficient children

Not beefing you bro, just telling it like it is....I have never seen a proper scientific study carried out on athletes who specifically use GH. I do not need a study, I have tried it and I have seen the results first hand. I deliberately used no AAS whilst on this time so I could get my own conclusive proof. I am a hard gainer and placebo does not even enter into the equation. I recommend it on my own experience and not on that of rat studies. It's up to the individual to make his/her own decision. But remember rats and pigs aren't allowed in the gym..... :)
Ed
 
ed2005 said:
Not beefing you bro, just telling it like it is....I have never seen a proper scientific study carried out on athletes who specifically use GH. I do not need a study, I have tried it and I have seen the results first hand. I deliberately used no AAS whilst on this time so I could get my own conclusive proof. I am a hard gainer and placebo does not even enter into the equation. I recommend it on my own experience and not on that of rat studies. It's up to the individual to make his/her own decision. But remember rats and pigs aren't allowed in the gym..... :)
Ed
yup but i think it has been proven that the liverproduced IGF-1 has been shown not to be positive for muscletissue either but i can't tell you for sure tonight but i'll check it out until tomorrow
 
Güclü_oglan said:
yup but i think it has been proven that the liverproduced IGF-1 has been shown not to be positive for muscletissue either but i can't tell you for sure tonight but i'll check it out until tomorrow

No problems bro...but remember that studies must be carried out on athletes who break down muscle tissue otherwise the results of studies on non athletes should be considered null and void.
Cheers
Ed
 
Bottom line here bro's, does it work for muscle mass with AAS in the off season? Or should I save it for pre-contest?
 
Bravo75 said:
Bottom line here bro's, does it work for muscle mass with AAS in the off season? Or should I save it for pre-contest?
i would use it for pre-contest along with alot of AAS and t3 with a good diet
 
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