HGH and ACNE

[Big Burt]

I'm a 47 year old man who has just completed his 3rd cycle. This last time was a weekly shot of test ent. + deca + tren. I also took proviron. I felt great for 10 weeks but two weeks after coming off, I've broken out in terrible back acne. This happens to me every time and I'm tired of it.

So I'm thinking that my next phase will be to go to HGH. My question is .. does anybody know if HGH causes acne? Thanks.

 

[HAYEZ]

no it does not...but the results you get from hgh will be pretty much pointless to what your used to with steroids...

 

[access]

You won't get acne but as hayez points out the results from HGH won't be close to your run's with AAS. Maybe look closer at your PCT as acne can come from wild hormonal imbalances and you stated it's only after your cycle that this is happening so a more complete PCT might be an answer.

 

[SLAYER69!]

You won't get acne but as hayez points out the results from HGH won't be close to your run's with AAS. Maybe look closer at your PCT as acne can come from wild hormonal imbalances and you stated it's only after your cycle that this is happening so a more complete PCT might be an answer.

same here. I get much more acne when I'm off too.

 

[access]

same here. I get much more acne when I'm off too.

Have you played around with your PCT at all to see if it can help with the acne?

 

[swole]

every time i got acne it was from an estro rebound

keep in it check and you won't get a breakout

AI's are your friend!

 

[access]

every time i got acne it was from an estro rebound

keep in it check and you won't get a breakout

AI's are your friend!

Yes that was my point to Swole. I think if your only getting acne after cycle then your not reaching homeostasis in a timely manner and looking at or amending your PCT might possibly be the answer.

 

[Cardinal Slin]

I love this....but please remember people are pointing out their opinions and not stating facts because as 'we all know' everyone reacts differently to different hormones and other medications/substances or what ever you wish to call them...

I did get acne from hgh (not running anything else when using the hgh) and as much as people will try to tell me it was from this or that and not the hgh, sorry NO, it was from the hgh.

It was not the cystic type of acne or the pimply acne but a mix of both and it wasn't as bad as acne from gear but it was acne.

 

[access]

Anything and almost everything is possible cardinal when we inject hormones exogenously so I am not doubting you at all.

 

[Big Burt]

Thanks guys. I was fine during the cycle, but broke out about a week after my last injection.

My PCT was as follows:

After last injection, I waited a week the began taking clomid and nolva tabs. I also injected HGC once every four days for a total of three shots.

I'm into my third week of the tabs. How much longer should I take them? I'm hoping that my system balances out soon so these zits go away.

One other question: at my age, should I worry about cycling on and off anyway? I've heard that guys in their mid 40s and up don't really need to cycle off. I'd love to do this (and can afford it). I'm just not sure what it may do to me long term.

Thanks for the advice on the HGH. I'm loving the gains I'm getting on the cycle noted above. I'd like to keep it going ...

 

[HAYEZ]

Thanks guys. I was fine during the cycle, but broke out about a week after my last injection.

My PCT was as follows:

After last injection, I waited a week the began taking clomid and nolva tabs. I also injected HGC once every four days for a total of three shots.

I'm into my third week of the tabs. How much longer should I take them? I'm hoping that my system balances out soon so these zits go away.

One other question: at my age, should I worry about cycling on and off anyway? I've heard that guys in their mid 40s and up don't really need to cycle off. I'd love to do this (and can afford it). I'm just not sure what it may do to me long term.

Thanks for the advice on the HGH. I'm loving the gains I'm getting on the cycle noted above. I'd like to keep it going ...

after cycle wait a month or so then go to a hrt doc... get ur levels tested if they come back poor then you can get a script and stay on for good if you choose to...or if you choose to stay on anyways cruise at 200-250 a wk during off cycle time...thats a life long commitment though

 

[EPROM]

Hey Burt!

...I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today!

Nice avatar.

 

[HAYEZ]

I love this....but please remember people are pointing out their opinions and not stating facts because as 'we all know' everyone reacts differently to different hormones and other medications/substances or what ever you wish to call them...

I did get acne from hgh (not running anything else when using the hgh) and as much as people will try to tell me it was from this or that and not the hgh, sorry NO, it was from the hgh.

It was not the cystic type of acne or the pimply acne but a mix of both and it wasn't as bad as acne from gear but it was acne.

you have to be the most sensitive cyclers i have ever seen...lol..no offence bro ...you just seem to get horrible sides from anything you try!!

 

[Cardinal Slin]

you have to be the most sensitive cyclers i have ever seen...lol..no offence bro ...you just seem to get horrible sides from anything you try!!

LOL - I know

You can put me in a blind study and inject me with any substance for 2-3wks, after that period I would be able to tell you with 100% accuracy what substance I was on because of the acne (or lack of it)...

The only thing I have ever used that has given me absolutely no acne is t3 and insulin.

Different substances give me different sizes, styles, and colours of acne

 

[Big_BK]

LOL - I know

You can put me in a blind study and inject me with any substance for 2-3wks, after that period I would be able to tell you with 100% accuracy what substance I was on because of the acne (or lack of it)...

The only thing I have ever used that has given me absolutely no acne is t3 and insulin.

Different substances give me different sizes, styles, and colours of acne

accutane is your friend

 

[access]

Thanks guys. I was fine during the cycle, but broke out about a week after my last injection.

My PCT was as follows:

After last injection, I waited a week the began taking clomid and nolva tabs. I also injected HGC once every four days for a total of three shots.

I'm into my third week of the tabs. How much longer should I take them? I'm hoping that my system balances out soon so these zits go away.

One other question: at my age, should I worry about cycling on and off anyway? I've heard that guys in their mid 40s and up don't really need to cycle off. I'd love to do this (and can afford it). I'm just not sure what it may do to me long term.

Thanks for the advice on the HGH. I'm loving the gains I'm getting on the cycle noted above. I'd like to keep it going ...

I really don't believe in taking Nolva and Clomid together and also seems you started them a little early especially the Nolva after running Tren. Tren and Nolva run concurrently are not a great idea as Nolva can cause progesterone issues which can be exacerbated by the Tren. Is ok to use for PCT but allow time for the Tren to clear before commencing and two weeks is generally fine. My preference is for Nolva either way for PCT over Clomid as Clomid can cause a multitude of differing sides. You didn't mention what dose your taking either and I assume this is the same PCT you have run previously as you mention you have same problem every time. My first thing would be to drop the Clomid and run Nolva for 3-4 weeks at 20mgs/day. This last cycle you did your likely to need at least 4 weeks, possibly even a week or two more dependant upon how you feel. Lately I have also been advocating the Testosterone Recovery Stack from PP. Works wonders for me so is worth looking into.

As for HRT this is a personal issue. At your age it would not be too difficult to get onto a HRT program but do you have any idea what your natural Test levels are? If there reasonable then I would much rather stay with cycles as long as your able rather than going onto HRT but again this is my personal choice. I know some guys who are quite happy to commence HRT and have done so. It's just not for me now. I eventually see it happening but I will hold off as long as I can.