Hey.... lay off the skinny guys.

[Big Brother Val]

Maybe I'm just having a sympathetic day, but I hear a lot the big guys making fun of the skinny guys.
Talking about 6' 0" 140 and all that... wanting to roid, and everything else...
Let me tell you why they can get so desperate.
When I started training, I was 6' 2" and weighed 123 lbs.
Yeah.
That's right.
123.
If I wore silver and stuck my tongue out, I'd look like a zipper. We're talking 8 INCH ARMS, DAMNIT!!!!!!!
EIGHT!!!!!!!!
I had dreams of looking like Arnold Schwarzenegger that no # of pushups would ever help me aquire.
I lifted... for years. I lifted for 5 years before my first cycle.
And at my absolute best I got to 156 or so. I ate everything I could, took all the powders, creatine, weight gain, protein, Androstenediol-dione, nordiol, diol-5, Recumbant DNA Growth Hormone, you name it. If I could by it legally, and there was a chance at all it would help put on some muscle, I'd buy it.
I felt so useless, and weak, and skinny. I asked around the gym too. Asking for "juice". Or, I thought I'd be cool and ask for "Anabolic Supplementation". Everyone shrugged me off... said I'd fuck myself up, and so on.
And to tell you the truth, I didn't care. At all.
I wanted muscle. I was desperate for it.
I was in the gym 2 hours a day, I had subscriptions to 3 different muscle mags.
And sometimes it just sucks to remember being the skinny kid in the gym, rather than one of the guys that gets asked by the skinny kids for gear, and training advice.
I've gained nearly 100 lbs of muscle since I started. It's been a long, hard road.
I understand they don't wanna reasearch, they want gear now, they're impatient... but shit... I was that way too.
Whenever I hear the word "skinny" by someone around me, I still wonder if they're talking about me. Even though my arms are passed the 18" mark.
When you feel absolutely worthless because of your physique, and people call you "Scrawny" more than they call you by your own name.... it can really, really suck.

 

[Suspension]

Very good Big Brotha Val!

 

[panther]

Ive spent most of my life feeling that way and let me tell you it sucks

 

[panther]

Val why dont you post your before picture

 

[Big Brother Val]

Panther... that's exactly what I'm gonna do. I'll post before and after right next to eachother.
As soon as I can get them scanned.
I don't have a scanner.
But I really wanna show the difference.

 

[ajc]

I've been down the skinny road and the fat road.

From the time I was 9 until about 14, I got called fat (even though I was 5'4" and only weighed a pudgy 135 at age 13).

Then I grew a couple inches, lost the baby fat and was called little and skinny. Needless to say I learned how to fight...a little too well, but that's a different story. I graduated highschool at 5'8" and 135...then two years later I was up to 160 and starting to look fat again.

That's when I snapped...I was tired of being fat, then being skinny, then getting fat again.

After 2 hard years of training and dieting (no juice), I got up to 160 lean...It was good, but not what I feel I deserved after 2 years of grueling work.

Now, I'm currently on my third cycle (which is a cutting cycle) I'm 180lbs. and pretty damn lean (11% bf or so)...I have a small bone structure so it looks pretty good for 180.

I know the pain that these guys go through. I think that the only way to get around shitty genetics is to educate yourself on nutrition, training, and after that think about juice. They need to be patient and getting made fun of makes it a lot harder.

It's all the shit they get from the bigger guys that pushes these guys to juice before they know how to eat, rest, and train.

 

[bsjohnson]

Right on Brother Val...

 

[The Iron Game]

Someone has taken it to heart

BBV I too had times hard. I am 6 foot 4 now and started training at 6 foot 3. I started at about 150-155lbs at this height, trained for a number of years and didnt notice too much, started reading, protein, all the trendy supplements and managed to get to 185lbs. This was some years later. I then took everything I knew put it into a plan of action and got to 210lbs. I stopped for a bit, lost some and got back into training. At 220lbs or just under I started to experiment. Please do not tell me when a 19 year old weighing 140lbs at 5'11 wants to use deca and dbol in a cycle that I shouldnt express concern.

 

[The Iron Game]

btw my arms were no way close to 8 inches

 

[WanTtoBeDeisel]

man i definatly hear that, i graduated high school at 6' 145 lbs, i was so embarassed i didnt want people to look at me from the sides cause id probably look like i wasnt there, ive worked hard got myself to 175 naturally in 2 years, did a cycle and im 200lbs 9% BF now, not huge by any means, but not small, let me tell you though im still nervous to take my shirt off, cause i look in the mirror and see that skinny kid lookin back, it fuckin sucks...

 

[GAINSEEKER]

Bro's I gotta say this was cool to read.. It feels good to know that I'm not the only one to start off that way.. I get so jealous when I see guys who naturally weighed 200 + when I was 165 at 6'1.... Now I weigh 220 but fat is taking over... strange twist of fate I guess ?!?! HA!!! Anyway it's funny I still always look in the mirror and see this little puke of a guy ?!?!?! And on the 19 year old thing I personally don't like when bro's encourage them to use gear at that age... I mean come on give it some time for bones to mature and so on... what ever floats there boat I guess but in the 20's I would think would be more idea ?!?!?! LOL Bro's'

HERE"S a bump to those that have had to work at what they have !!!!!

 

[Big Brother Val]

AJC... you're right. If a skinny kid is intimidated everywhere he goes... and hates how he looks, and envies the big guys... he's gonna want it NOW. And I also agree that they need to be educated first.
I mean hell... YOU CAN'T DO BRAIN SURGERY WITHOUT GOING TO SCHOOL FOR IT FIRST. Right?

Hey, Iron... I totally understand the concern, man. It concerns me too.
I tell kids the same thing I was told when I asked all those years ago.
They really do need to wait.
I think we all know that.
I was just trying to provide a motive for SOME of these guys... it can be very depressing, and when you see Arnold, know he's taken steroids... you think "I GOTTA GET SOME!!" And you get tunnel vision, and that's all you can think about.
SKINNY..... GOTTA GET 'ROIDS.
SKINYY...... GOTTA GET 'ROIDS........
It's hard. But I do agree with you totally on that point.

And Deisel.... I hear you. No matter how big I get, I still sometimes see that skinny kid lookin' back at me.
Unless it's arm day, and I'm all pumped... then sometimes I'm actually proud of myself.

 

[champion]

BUMP

 

[HappyScrappy]

for years I ran and had to keep my weight low b/c of VO2max (part of the calulation is based on bodyweight). but now I'm not running competeively anymore and want to be bigger and look good. I was 145 and 6'3" or 4" when I started.... 8 months ago maybe now. I gained 60 lbs without gear and then about 18 lbs with gear, and then have been using it since to cut the fat off but maintain weight.
after this cycle I'm going to clean out my system and then try to head for 220 or 230 and then I think I will look good.
but it is frustrating to be a skinny ass mofo at 204 right now.

 

[ROIDJUNKIE]

Skinny or fat I dont know which sucks more?Praise to anyone who left that body behind I left a skinny one 10 years ago!

 

[Namu]

Bump for all of the brothers. Know everyone can see that we are all normal and have done our parts in researching and maintaining a healthy lifestyle. Peace out everyone and great job!!!!

 

[ajc]

I just went to a big (100+) family gathering Sunday...I wore a tight black shirt, so almost every single person there was saying how big I looked. Shit, some didn't know who the fuck I was. LOL

What really got me was my 15 year old little cousin that I haven't seen for about two years came up and said "Damn man you got big...you used to be a twig and now you're fuckin ripped." Then he was grabbing my arm, trying to get me to flex and stuff. That felt pretty good. Now I know how much smaller I really was just a couple of years ago if a 15 year old kid was saying that.

I know I don't look scrawny or whatever, but I still feel like a shrimp compared to the people I socialize with and the ones I'm surrounded by in the gym, so I don't know if I'll ever be satisfied, but I could never go back to looking "normal"...that would be hell.

 

[panther]

Val when you post yours ill post mine will start a thread called before weight training pics

 

[Big Brother Val]

AJC... the EXACT same thing happened at my family reuinion. That was last summer, but everyone was grabbing my arms, asking to me to flex....
Felt good... but kinda odd. I'm definately not used to that.

And Panther... you got it, man. I got two KILLER pictures of my before, where you can see how small I am. One photo is from when my arms were up to 9 inches, and also one from when my arms were 11, and I was pretty ripped. Skinny as all hell, but you could see every muscle in my body.. the most recent I have of me is last August... but I'll post it to show the difference.
It boggles my mind.

 

[HardbodyAC]

I know all about this. I graduated high school at 6' and 135 pounds. I tried every prohormone on the market, I ate everything in sight and the biggest I ever got was 147 pounds. Then I did my firts deca dbol cycle. I also used primo along the way. My gains were slow but steady with no water retention. I got strong as an ox and my gains have continued with each week. I am now at 186 pounds at 6' and about 4% bodyfat. My goal is to be 200 pounds. I have such a small frame (31 waist) that 200 pounds would look hugwe on me. My advice, don't ever give up!

 

[Big Brother Val]

I hear that.
I'm at 18 on the arms... 31 on the waist.
Looks good.
Not big enough though.

 

[projection]

I can relate to AJC on the skinny/chubby look, went through the chubby years of middle school, just pudgy in the belly. Then in high school with diet i was 5' 10" and 145 , 29" waist, really skinny, I think I was becoming aneroxic. Then a year after graduation, with no AS and hitting it hard I got up to 180 with not much fat gain and everyone swore I was on gear. Then hit plataues in early twentys and got frustrated. Now in mid twenties and 5' 10" and 210 with fat just covering my abs, waist 34. Like most of you I have BIGorExia, I feel small at a pretty solid 210 and my girl thinks Im crazy. But hopefully in about oh 7 more weeks Ill be about 225. Peace Bro's..

 

[ripped103]

i guess im not the only one.i grew up a fat kid that always got picked on, which taught me how to fight, way too well.as soon as i heard the word fat id be swinging and getting suspended quite often.ive still managed to maintain a high avrerage in school which i was happy about.it was so bad my mother had the principals home#.
a decided i had enough and lost a lot of weight.i was 185 puonds and only 5-6 at 11 years old.i basically strved myself and went down to 140 pounds.now when i went into highschool i got picked om for being too skinny, it was a no win situation.igot involved with a lot of recreational drugs for a year or two and decided that i needed a lifestyle change. i started lifting and now 7 years late im 5-6 200 pounds and abou 11%bodyfat
i still feel fat and wont take my shirt off unless i have a 6-pack.i think ill always see the short fat kid in my eyes

 

[Big Johnson]

JESUS VAL, YOU WERE SKINNY BRO!

 

[CRAZYPITBULL]

BUMP.

 

[Big Brother Val]

I'm glad to see so many of you can relate to what I'm saying.
It helps to think that maybe I am bigger than I give myself credit for...

The main purpose of this post was merely to say before we get harsh with the skinny guys... either remember what it was like to be one... or read this, and understand some of the motive as to why they act how they do.


And yeah, Big Johnson... I was really, really skinny, man. Still haunts me to this day.
Wondering if my arms look small... if my chest looks flat...
To see a 10 inch difference in arms in my photos is insane.

 

[GAINSEEKER]

this is some good shit... funny how we all do have this in common.....big bump to the little ones trying to go where we have.....oh and to the fat one's too ?!?!?1

 

[bigkraut]

HOLY SHIT!!! 8 inch arms? Were you the guy standing beside Sally Struthers in all of those commercials. My 80 pound 11 year old daughter has 11 inch guns. I would have fucked my parents up for genes like that!

 

[Blonski]

Good thread.

I'm now 25 and have been at 6'2" for the last 5 years. In that time I went from 82kg (~180lb) to 60kg (~130lb) in 3 months with glandular fever. I have busted my arse totally since then, training and dieting and can not get past 74kg (~160lb). I have always been ripped, no fat and my diet, as bad as it has been at times does nothing for me. My metabolism runs so quick regardless of what I eat and how often and when.

Shit! My cholesterol was 2.34, almost non-existant in the eyes of the doctor.

So, without any more frustration I have a dbol/winny cycle on the way which I feel will give me the results I want. I just want my pre-glandular weight back.

Before that 82kg I was a wafe as well and there was only one guy skinner than me and his name was Starvin Marvin (however, he had a bit of a dbol gut swell happening). No, he was african of some kind and had the genetic disadvantage.

Hang in there skinny guys, our day will come.

But to be honest, I'd rather bust my arse to put on weight than bust it to lose it.

 

[panther]

Guys let me know when we will do our thread of skinny pics!

 

[RADAR]

I was one of those skinny guys also,stuck at 120 (Drippin Wet) 10 inch arms, now im 185 going on 17" arms

 

[68GT350]

Bro, this is seriously some inspirational shit. Thanks for sharing Val.

 

[Big Brother Val]

I really like the responses, guys.


And Bigkraut..... yeah... I was on one of those save the kids commercials... they just covered my in Nestle Quick powder to change my skin color.

"You can help sick kids like Val... for only 43 cents a day. He'll send you letters, photos, and updates of his progress thanks to YOUR help."

Shit........ it was rough.

Glad to say, that gaining 10 inches since then really makes a difference.
And you'd be surprised what 100 lbs of bodyweight, almost all being muscle, will do for you.

They used to call me "Scrawny" And "Lurch" a few years back... now people at work call me "BBG", if they don't know my name. It stands for "Big Bald Guy".
No shit.

The skinny kid who got noticed for the sick-looking lack of muscle, now gets noticed for the size of it.

And Panther.... still working on getting my photo's scanned.

CAN'T WAIT TO POST 'EM!!!!!!