Help with sust 250/hcg cycle

[SteroidRona]

Currently I am 30yrs old 175lbs, 5'11". I like to think of myself as a hard gainer but I have been able to put on some weight if I spend large amounts of money in suppliments (like 500 uds worth, yea ridiculous huh).

This is what I was able to pick up from my local pharmacy (I love working in the middle east!!):
Organon - 1 amp, 1 ml of Sustanon 250
Testoviron Depot 1ml/250mg Test Enanthate 1amp
Box of 50mg Clomid 10 tabs
Box of Novadex 10mg 30 tabs
box of 5mg Proscar(Finasteride)
Betolvex 1mg/ml 1amp (Cyanocobamin/B-12)
Pregnyl 1 amp 5000ui (3 amp + 3 amp a 1ml solvent <~confused)

What I have scetched is the folowing:
Week 1-4 250mg/week sust EOD
Week 1-6 500iu Hcg/week (mon/thurs)
Week 1-9 5mg Proscar/ED
Week 7-9 50mg Clomid

Trying to fig how much b-12 i need to take

 

[RADAR]

Currently I am 30yrs old 175lbs, 5'11". I like to think of myself as a hard gainer but I have been able to put on some weight if I spend large amounts of money in suppliments (like 500 uds worth, yea ridiculous huh).

This is what I was able to pick up from my local pharmacy (I love working in the middle east!!):
Organon - 1 amp, 1 ml of Sustanon 250
Testoviron Depot 1ml/250mg Test Enanthate 1amp
Box of 50mg Clomid 10 tabs
Box of Novadex 10mg 30 tabs
box of 5mg Proscar(Finasteride)
Betolvex 1mg/ml 1amp (Cyanocobamin/B-12)
Pregnyl 1 amp 5000ui (3 amp + 3 amp a 1ml solvent <~confused)

What I have scetched is the folowing:
Week 1-4 250mg/week sust EOD
Week 1-6 500iu Hcg/week (mon/thurs)
Week 1-9 5mg Proscar/ED
Week 7-9 50mg Clomid

Trying to fig how much b-12 i need to take

1-The cycle is too short

2-not enough sus i would go with 500mg a wk for 8-10 weeks

3-start HCG around the 3rd week

4-PCT sucks

5-B-12 can be administered 2-3 times a week at 500-1000mgs.

 

[Strongbow]

Like Radar said bro doing Sust for 4 weeks is basically useless. And why the hell people still use clomid I will never know. You do have the pinning right eod for Sust. Ten weeks of Sust @ 500 mgs a week I pin HCG througout @ 500 iu. And PCT bro I like to make the most of it use some Forma or HCGenerate and then switch to N2's Bridge. You will not be disappointed.

 

[SteroidRona]

1-The cycle is too short

2-not enough sus i would go with 500mg a wk for 8-10 weeks

3-start HCG around the 3rd week

4-PCT sucks

5-B-12 can be administered 2-3 times a week at 500-1000mgs.

Is there a way to dilute the b-12 because that box has a huge needle, lol. So preety much I'll be taking one of those boxes a week then huh?

 

[stevesmi]

also try pinning the sustanon ONCE a week. this EOD stuff is not the way it was intended to be used. needto posted an excellent post about the way sustanon should be pinned vs. what conventional wisdom says. and he is right cause i have tried both ways.

yeah if you pin EOD of twice a week you will get good results. but pinning once a week the entire amount you will get even BETTER results. try it yourself

 

[Strongbow]

also try pinning the sustanon ONCE a week. this EOD stuff is not the way it was intended to be used. needto posted an excellent post about the way sustanon should be pinned vs. what conventional wisdom says. and he is right cause i have tried both ways.

yeah if you pin EOD of twice a week you will get good results. but pinning once a week the entire amount you will get even BETTER results. try it yourself

I would never doubt N2 but you will not get the benifit of the prop ester pinning Sust once a week. If you are not going to take the full benifit of the short esters then just use Cyp or E. And I have tried it both ways, Sust definately works better pinning it EOD. But everybody reacts diffrently, as I guess is evident in your better results from pinning once, but I am fairly sure prop is better pinned EOD.

 

[stevesmi]

strongbow and other sustanon lovers this is a MUST READ on sustanon. its long but needto delivers again http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/gear-pictures-anabolic-steroids/z-line-sust-250-a-722563.html

sustanon also has a 4 day half life esther, a 9 day esther, and of course the long esther 3 weeks. its not just about the prop esther!! and you shouldn't just base your injections on that small prop esther.

So then how should one use sust? Well yes you can have a good cycle using twice a week injects of sust. You can have a good cycle running every other day injects of sust-250 too as many have seen for them self first hand.

But guys lets use our heads!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Over all of steroid history what have we always done? We have always taken a steroid and used double, triple, more, more, more, then what was intended to be used right? We take it how it was intended to be taken only we take a whole hell of a lot more then was intended.


So why have we lost our way when it comes to sustanon? When you use sust in any other way then its intended use you get unstable levels. This has been known to cause sust flue, crap loads of nasty acne,mood swings, and all kinds of other problems.

Now I challenge you experienced users out there to test my theory. Insted of injecting sust twice a week, 3 times a week or even every other day... Go back to the basics and use it exactly how it was intended to be used.

Inject your sustanon just once a week.

But needto man thats no fun!!!!!!!!! Ya I know its not. So lets do what we always do and jack up the dosing
Inject 2, 3, or hell even 4ml of sust 250 once every 8 days. This is a great 1000mg cycle and trust me once you take my advice and start injecting your sust the way it was intended to be injecting you will understand and "feel" exactly why this is by far the most superior way of injecting your sust.

This will keep a constant steady on the rise flow of testosterone in your system. The different esters on large doses will work together one after another as one ester drops off the next ester is right there to pick up the slack one after another.

 

[Strongbow]

strongbow and other sustanon lovers this is a MUST READ on sustanon. its long but needto delivers again http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/gear-pictures-anabolic-steroids/z-line-sust-250-a-722563.html

sustanon also has a 4 day half life esther, a 9 day esther, and of course the long esther 3 weeks. its not just about the prop esther!! and you shouldn't just base your injections on that small prop esther.

So then how should one use sust? Well yes you can have a good cycle using twice a week injects of sust. You can have a good cycle running every other day injects of sust-250 too as many have seen for them self first hand.

But guys lets use our heads!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Over all of steroid history what have we always done? We have always taken a steroid and used double, triple, more, more, more, then what was intended to be used right? We take it how it was intended to be taken only we take a whole hell of a lot more then was intended.


So why have we lost our way when it comes to sustanon? When you use sust in any other way then its intended use you get unstable levels. This has been known to cause sust flue, crap loads of nasty acne,mood swings, and all kinds of other problems.

Now I challenge you experienced users out there to test my theory. Insted of injecting sust twice a week, 3 times a week or even every other day... Go back to the basics and use it exactly how it was intended to be used.

Inject your sustanon just once a week.

But needto man thats no fun!!!!!!!!! Ya I know its not. So lets do what we always do and jack up the dosing
Inject 2, 3, or hell even 4ml of sust 250 once every 8 days. This is a great 1000mg cycle and trust me once you take my advice and start injecting your sust the way it was intended to be injecting you will understand and "feel" exactly why this is by far the most superior way of injecting your sust.

This will keep a constant steady on the rise flow of testosterone in your system. The different esters on large doses will work together one after another as one ester drops off the next ester is right there to pick up the slack one after another.

Thanks bro Ima read that and see if it changes my mind, the greatest thing about this board is the diffrent experiences and opinions on things. Learning from others is what makes EF a great place.

 

[stevesmi]

Thanks bro Ima read that and see if it changes my mind, the greatest thing about this board is the diffrent experiences and opinions on things. Learning from others is what makes EF a great place.

i think that both ways its kick ass and i got great results both ways.

i would be curious to hear others opinions who have tried once a week pinning also.

what i noticed was a more CONSISTENT feeling. i felt like running through a wall throughout pinning once a week. my consistency wasn't as strong when i did 3X a week pinning.

 

[SteroidRona]

I would never doubt N2 but you will not get the benifit of the prop ester pinning Sust once a week. If you are not going to take the full benifit of the short esters then just use Cyp or E. And I have tried it both ways, Sust definately works better pinning it EOD. But everybody reacts diffrently, as I guess is evident in your better results from pinning once, but I am fairly sure prop is better pinned EOD.

i agree with Strongbow it would be a waste of prop as i understood why it was pinned EOD. Im so stuck on this forum. I have read more in the passed week than i have all year, lol.