Help with "recovery"

[WBA]

Hello All. This is my first post and I am in need of some advice. I have used steroids once every year or two since I was 22. I am now 36. I admit I was uneducated about how to run a proper cycle and I just recently learned how important it is to PCT. In the past I would say my cycles were low to moderate doses and only two types of gear at a time the most. I have dabbled once or twice with huh but the last time was like five years ago.

Here is my dilemma. I never really knew I was shut down before after a cycle. I always thought my loss of libido or depression was in my head or had something to do with the girl I was dating at the time. I was foolish of me not to believe that this had something to do with my hormones being out of whack or lack of natural test in my body.

Beside my current cycle my last was two years ago, some masteron and deca for like 12 weeks. my last three weeks of the cycle and post cycle i was completely shut down and FREAKED out. I ended up doing some research and got some research chem nolva and ran that for three or four weeks. A few months later I got some of my mojo back but I don't think I was ever the same. Now two years later I decided to get back on. This summer I ran a 12 week cycle of Cypionate and enanthate. I tapered on and off. Just about a week after my last shot I started with the Clomid & nova mixture for just under five weeks and finished a week ago. I have a very low sex drive and can barely get excited and keep it up. Horrible! It's depressing. When I stopped the Clom/Nolva I started Unleashed, ZMA and tribulus. Its been a week of that with no results. I'm shut down hard and freaking out. I even popped a Cialis and that usually makes me go three times but is not working. Any suggestions?

weeks 1-5 400mg of enanthate
weeks 5-8 400mg of enanthate & 400mg of Cypionate
weeks 8-10 400mg of cypionate
weeks 10-12 200mg of cypionate

PCT week 1-2 75mg clomid 15mg nolva ED
PCT week 3-4 50mg clomid 10mg nolva ED
PCT week 5 25mg clomid 5mg nolva ED

I am now taking unleashed, ZMA, Tribulus and vitamins.

 

[Outonthegrind]

Very important to run proper pct and educate yourself on the compounds and chemicals you are dosing and their effects during and especially after you run them. Also be aware that clomid may cause loss of libido, its a pretty well documented side; IMO you are a strong candidate for tri-weekly hcg injections but research them well before jumping into that, if they arent blended properly you can have issues or in the least diminish the effects; Good luck, im sure the bro's on here will be able to advise you further..

 

[mastercuzz]

buddy the last week of injections you need to pound the HCG brother to get your two little pods working again.

 

[stevesmi]

you've been juicing for 15 some years and i'm shocked you still do not understand what AAS does to your body. but that is okay, that is what this board is for to educate and help others out so I will attempt to do my best

first off cyp and E are like the same thing.. test is test. so why would you run both together 400mg each? unnecessary. next time just stick with 500mg a week of one of them.

second you need to run an AI (do you understand what an AI does? read up on estrogen, it makes it tough to recover when you have high estrogen levels) during your cycle as well as hcg/hcgenerate to keep your nuts plump so that when you do come off you aren't trying to push a car up a steep hill.

and thirdly click the link in my sig below and read, that should give you enough information

you are literally the 4th person today to post a thread saying they have no libido after AAS, as if everyone thinks injecting foreign anabolic and androgenic things into their body won't have any effects at shuting you down magically!!! and then we had another thread up from a guy saying he's juiced 15 years and never ran a pct! lol. amazing but like i said above you came to the right place to set yourself straight.

 

[WBA]

Your right bro. Not that I didn't know what they were doing to me it's just that when I was young and dumb.

Now I'm 36 and really feel the effects after I come off.

Actually good to hear the clomid may have caused some of the libido suppression also. Hopefully that will be out of my system soon. Clomid made me depressed and felt like a girl lol.

Thanks for the advice. Any more would be much appreciated!

 

[stevesmi]

^^^regarding the clomid never run more than 12.5-25mg a day. in fact I would experiment with running it EOD instead since the half life is almost a week.

when you run clomid at too high a doses you get sides, no different than any other drug. running it at high dosages isn't gonna solve your dilemna any faster, it will just make things worse.

 

[WBA]

Thanks for the info on clomid! That's so diff than what I've been reading. The sides were crazy and I think it made me crazy and limp!

 

[Judo Tom]

this board is great you are gonna love it.. that steve guy really knows his stuff and is always around posting and help.. all of the mods are like that actually.

id start back in with a simple test only cycle.. 500mg a week and have a great pct lined up.

its funny people hate spending money on a good pct but love adding 3,4 or 5 compounds into a cycle which costs more then a pct and then freak out when they feel like crap.. and lose all their gains.

good luck