help with my first cycle

[ajfab88]

hey guys whats up new to this forum........

this is my first cycle and i am doing a 12 week cycle of testosterone propionate at 200 mg a week for the first 8 weeks, and the last 4 weeks dosing down to 100 mg per week...week 9-12 i am taking winstrol as well.......my question is do i have to worry about much side effects if the dosage is so low? and what should my dieting look like while on the test, and should i reduce my calories the last 3 weeks while on the winny? i plan on taking milk thistle while on the winny....as well as some novedox from gnc....supposedly an estrogen blocker/testosterone booster with a few weeks left in my cycle.....as well as a good 3 weeks after my cycle is completed......how do u think my results would fare out after the cycle???

please i would appreciate any kind of feedback or tips/ideas.....anything would help me!!! im a 20 yr old male by the way.....5'11'' 196 pounds....16.5 % bodyfat......

thanks.

 

[puddlemonkey]

What is it you want to accomplish? Have any goals set?

 

[! RUSSIAN BEAR !]

welcome to EF mate

 

[solidspine]

I would recommend you wait you are still growing and at 20 you are too young,


Do a Google search and read about your growth plates in the long bones of your body.

You only get one first cycle, make it a good one.


The cycle itself is inadequate but also immaterial since I would recommend you wait, period.

 

[MoFoBerto]

Welcome to the forum bro.

 

[mcwp101]

hey guys whats up new to this forum........

this is my first cycle and i am doing a 12 week cycle of testosterone propionate at 200 mg a week for the first 8 weeks, and the last 4 weeks dosing down to 100 mg per week...week 9-12 i am taking winstrol as well.......my question is do i have to worry about much side effects if the dosage is so low? and what should my dieting look like while on the test, and should i reduce my calories the last 3 weeks while on the Winstrol - stanozolol? i plan on taking milk thistle while on the Winstrol - stanozolol....as well as some novedox from gnc....supposedly an estrogen blocker/testosterone booster with a few weeks left in my cycle.....as well as a good 3 weeks after my cycle is completed......how do u think my results would fare out after the cycle???

please i would appreciate any kind of feedback or tips/ideas.....anything would help me!!! im a 20 yr old male by the way.....5'11'' 196 pounds....16.5 % bodyfat......

thanks.

keep the test at 200 through the whole cycle. Personaly a would do 400mg a week but that's ok for a first cycle. Winstrol won't do anything if your diet isn't legit. Eat a lot but eat good. Lean meats, fish, veg's, tuna, eggs, skim milk, etc.. Don't take anything est. blockers from gnc. Get some clomid or novalex for when you are done and take for about 3 wks to a month. good luck

 

[s8nlilhlpr2]

200mg per week of prop? How are you going to shoot that? Have to do EOD or so to keep blood levels stable, seems like a lot of pokes for your first cycle. Why not use something easier like test E or cyp?

 

[genman]

IMHO, your natty test production is at it's peak at this age. Supplementing it should not be necessary and may even have negative implications down the road. Let your body do it's thing and wait to juice until you're old like us !

 

[ajfab88]

well i am planning on injecting 100 mg on mondays and thursdays....which equal out to 200 mg a week.....i have heard many sites say that at least 400 mg per week of prop is neccessary, but a friend of mine used 200 mg a week of deca, and got great results......plus i would rather have subtle, easy to maintain gains.....

im pretty much trying to turn alot of my fat into muscle.....get a tad bigger...

since its my first cycle i would think that 200 mg per week would give me results at least right?

 

[s8nlilhlpr2]

well i am planning on injecting 100 mg on mondays and thursdays....which equal out to 200 mg a week.....i have heard many sites say that at least 400 mg per week of testosterone propionate is neccessary, but a friend of mine used 200 mg a week of Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - , and got great results......plus i would rather have subtle, easy to maintain gains.....

im pretty much trying to turn alot of my fat into muscle.....get a tad bigger...

since its my first cycle i would think that 200 mg per week would give me results at least right?

Bolded part is simply impossible sorry. Fat cells do not magically turn in to muscle cells. You need to diet to get rid of fat. I still do not think testosterone propionate is a good idea, testosterone enanthate or testosterone cypionate would be a better choice.

Deca is not Test and you are not your friend. His results may be drastically different from yours. I personally would not run deca without test, because I value my libido and love life....

200mg per week is on the low end, might see results might not. How old are you, how long have you been training, what is your weight & bf%, etc.....

Compared to enanthate and cypionate, propionate is a very short ester and is released quite fast. As such more frequent injections are needed. Levels will peak after 24-36 hours and begin tapering from there on out, making the longest possible time-span between injections, at least or proper results, about 3 days. Most athletes will opt to inject 50-100 mg every day to every other day.