Help with bulking

[lilleole]

Well, it's christmas..and I want to add some mass.

Height: 5"8
Weight: 154lbs

I want to reach 175+ lbs in aprx 2 months. anyone ever put on 20lbs+ with dbol/sust?

I've been thinking of running a cycle with dbol and sust(500mg)

Sumthin liek this:

1: dbol 40mg / sust500
2: dbol 40mg / sust500
3: dbol 30mg / sust500
4: dbol 30mg / sust500
5: dbol 30mg / sust500
6: sust500
7: sust500
8: sust500

Have you guys got any experience with this combo?

and whats you're recommendation on PCT - what should I run ?

 

[Largepaws]

whats your training history? Is this your first cycle?

 

[02gixxersix]

he's 154 lbs this beter be his first cycle. Yes you can reach your weight with this cycle but you could easily reach it naturally in less than a year I bet with a good diet.

 

[lilleole]

yeah, it's my first cycle

21yrs old, and ehm..I've been working out in a gym for a couple of years. still have been doing sports for as long as i can remember though

 

[sh4dowf4lcon]

I am with six on this, you can probably add the weight naturally and noty have to worry about any sides. Also I wanted to say a couple things about the cycle you have laid out.. Usually a stack is not recommended for starters. Run Dbol by itself for at least the first two weeks, just so you can see how you respond. Check your BP and watch the pumps and make sure you are "Dbol Compatible" then add the sust 500mg weekly in two separate shots.

Let me say I have seen first timers grow on Dbol only and sust only. You could statrt with 250mg of sust and work up to five hundred over a few weeks just to see how you respond. You only get one heart and you should be cautious. Think of getting started on roids as jumping off a 40' bridge into water below. You arent sure how deep the water is and you arent sure if there are rocks under the waters surface. Doyou dive in head first (700+mg of drugs weekly) or do you go inspect the water or jump in feet first (400-500mg of gear per week).

Understand dbol is a strong drug whiuch will make you gain weight and strength & mixed with sust the effects will be pronounced. IF your training and diet are correct to acheive your goals then I would suggest a starter cycle like this:

• Get blood work for baseline test levels and liver enzymes
• Dbol 30mg ED wks 1-4 (take 10mg 3x daily with meals)
• Sust250 E5D wks 3-9
• Hcg 500iuED for 6days wk10
• Clomid 100mg first 3 days starting week12
• Clomid 50mg ED for 18 more days
• Get blood work and compare to baseline tests

This layout is the proper way to go about using safely IMO. It will give you (a virgin) a chance to watch the Dbol react in your body, check your bp and then add sust, so if you notioce side effects you can differentiate which drug could be causing the side...like DBOL PUMPS etc... Dbol is strong, you might not need 40mg ED to start IMO.

Hope this helps, drop me a PM if I can may of assistance to you. BTW, I dont answer source questions, take it to a MOD or VET ->peace bro<--

 

[sh4dowf4lcon]

P.S. There are some herbs like aveena and several other things which can help get test levels up. Be sure to ask around and do your research on PCT, but the info I gave you will get you in the right direction Bro. I also think you should have Nolvadex on hand in case your nips get sore or gyno comes on...Dont dive in head first, do some more homework. -->peace bro<--

 

[muscleup]

I am with six on this, you can probably add the weight naturally and noty have to worry about any sides. Also I wanted to say a couple things about the cycle you have laid out.. Usually a stack is not recommended for starters. Run Dbol by itself for at least the first two weeks, just so you can see how you respond. Check your BP and watch the pumps and make sure you are "Dbol Compatible" then add the sust 500mg weekly in two separate shots.

Let me say I have seen first timers grow on Dbol only and sust only. You could statrt with 250mg of sust and work up to five hundred over a few weeks just to see how you respond. You only get one heart and you should be cautious. Think of getting started on roids as jumping off a 40' bridge into water below. You arent sure how deep the water is and you arent sure if there are rocks under the waters surface. Doyou dive in head first (700+mg of drugs weekly) or do you go inspect the water or jump in feet first (400-500mg of gear per week).

Understand dbol is a strong drug whiuch will make you gain weight and strength & mixed with sust the effects will be pronounced. IF your training and diet are correct to acheive your goals then I would suggest a starter cycle like this:

• Get blood work for baseline test levels and liver enzymes
• Dbol 30mg ED wks 1-4 (take 10mg 3x daily with meals)
• Sust250 E5D wks 3-9
• Hcg 500iuED for 6days wk10
• Clomid 100mg first 3 days starting week12
• Clomid 50mg ED for 18 more days
• Get blood work and compare to baseline tests

This layout is the proper way to go about using safely IMO. It will give you (a virgin) a chance to watch the Dbol react in your body, check your bp and then add sust, so if you notioce side effects you can differentiate which drug could be causing the side...like DBOL PUMPS etc... Dbol is strong, you might not need 40mg ED to start IMO.

Hope this helps, drop me a PM if I can may of assistance to you. BTW, I dont answer source questions, take it to a MOD or VET ->peace bro<--

...Great post bro

 

[Nighthawkk]

yup I agree with shadow, I started dbol only myself as the first cycle...responded well, then added sust/deca at a later stage and all worked out well. Diet, training, and PCT especially are important. good luck

 

[lilleole]

*bows for sh4dowf4lcon*
I'm greatful for yer knowledge.

as I'd say in norwegian, "tusen takk" - thank you very much

I'm trying to get all kind of info, but unfortunately theres not always that easy to get information from experienced roid users.. glad i have this board. I'm trying to collect all this info, but not always that easy - since im norwegian ;-)


thanks guys!