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tommy39
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Listen, trust me. I get bloodwork every three months at Any Lab Tests.missionpossible said:
In jan last year my iron serum level was 61. Normal is 40 to 150. 3 months later it was 190. 3 months later it was 262. Turns out i had started taking
2 or 3 meal replacments a day. Lean bodys ect. They have 50% of your daily
iron each. also the biggie was the cereals. I was eating big bowls of quaker
honey square cereal a day. It like total and alot of cereals have 90% of your
needed iron per CUP and i ate 3 or 4 cups a bowl. All in all thats several times the needed amounts. DO NOT UP vitamin C. Look up iron overload on the internet. Anyone with it should not take c anywhere near iron intake. Turns out VIT C INCREASES your intestines ability to absorb iron. Blood donation every 8 weeks will lower all your levels back down. It took 3 months
and 3 donations and my iron was at 175. Look at your labels on what your eating. Even bread has high iron. You can get an total iron binding capacity test. TIBC. It was 75 dollars for me. It will tell you if your iron overload or
have other problems by total saturation levels. I posted around about iron and got no results last year and had to find out myself. You can go to
IRON OVERLOAD on the searches on net and see. Just avoid Vit C for now.
Triple J
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ok that is good information but lets not hit the panic button here about iron and vitamin c. vitamin c did not cause your situation, excess iron consumption caused it.
iron overload as a medical condition, is usually genetic. yes vitamin c is generally contraindicated for people with the condition known as hematochromatosis. but keep in mind these people have to give blood on a regular basis to keep their iron levels down, regardless of their vitamin c intake - and their bodies still require vitamin c, regardless of its effect on iron absorption.
however men who do not have this genetic predisposition can still accumulate an undesirably high level of iron over time (by middle age) as appears to be the case here, and as illustrated by your example. as opposed to women who are protected via menstrual bleeding.
maybe my advice was not appropriate without the proper context. since you can drive your iron to high levels just through diet and not related to vitamin c intake, which appear to be what happened here, adding vitamin c to a high iron diet would not be advisable. vitamin c binds well to iron which could either help leach it from your body or increase its absorption ... if iron intake continues at high levels.
given he wants to lower his iron levels, his first priority diet-wise should be to analize and reduce his iron intake. if that is accomplished the vitamin c should assist normalizing his levels. i will tell you this, if plasma iron levels are high you will want to be on plenty of antioxidants. nutritional chelators, of which i believe garlic qualifies, would also be of merit. EDTA is also available in oral form.
if you go here:
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/uspdi/202071.html
scroll to the bottom of the page you will see under certain circumstances vitamin c is
used to help address iron overload when used in combination with other substances. probably chelators.
if you go here:
http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/faqdocs.html
scroll down the page, you will see some different doctors opinons vs. the orthodox medical viewpoint
giving blood is certainly the most effective method to reduce your iron levels. high iron levels are not healthy and more people should probably be tracking this in their blood screenings.
iron overload as a medical condition, is usually genetic. yes vitamin c is generally contraindicated for people with the condition known as hematochromatosis. but keep in mind these people have to give blood on a regular basis to keep their iron levels down, regardless of their vitamin c intake - and their bodies still require vitamin c, regardless of its effect on iron absorption.
however men who do not have this genetic predisposition can still accumulate an undesirably high level of iron over time (by middle age) as appears to be the case here, and as illustrated by your example. as opposed to women who are protected via menstrual bleeding.
maybe my advice was not appropriate without the proper context. since you can drive your iron to high levels just through diet and not related to vitamin c intake, which appear to be what happened here, adding vitamin c to a high iron diet would not be advisable. vitamin c binds well to iron which could either help leach it from your body or increase its absorption ... if iron intake continues at high levels.
given he wants to lower his iron levels, his first priority diet-wise should be to analize and reduce his iron intake. if that is accomplished the vitamin c should assist normalizing his levels. i will tell you this, if plasma iron levels are high you will want to be on plenty of antioxidants. nutritional chelators, of which i believe garlic qualifies, would also be of merit. EDTA is also available in oral form.
if you go here:
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/uspdi/202071.html
scroll to the bottom of the page you will see under certain circumstances vitamin c is
used to help address iron overload when used in combination with other substances. probably chelators.
if you go here:
http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/faqdocs.html
scroll down the page, you will see some different doctors opinons vs. the orthodox medical viewpoint
giving blood is certainly the most effective method to reduce your iron levels. high iron levels are not healthy and more people should probably be tracking this in their blood screenings.
missionpossible
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Tommy hit the nail on the head, I've been taking Cytogainer three to four times a day, thats about 140% of daily req. for iron. Then add in all the meat I eat too! So, I'm fairly certain where the problem has came from, I just want to keep the levels under control as I continue to try to add lbm. I scheduled an appointment to give blood next week, so this should help to get the iron level going in the right direction. I also plan on alternating between whey protein and the Cytogainer to reduce my iron intake.
Still about 2-4 weeks out from the next planned cycle, so I'm hoping everything is dialed in by then.
Still about 2-4 weeks out from the next planned cycle, so I'm hoping everything is dialed in by then.
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