Help to recover

[nosion]

Hi.
At 21 I did abuse pulsing epistane on and off for about a year. Stupid I know..
There was no pct inbetween those "pulse-cycles".
Now after beeing off for about 14 months, I still have not recovered. Iam now 23 years and highly regret what I have done. Just wish to be normal again.

Blood drawn in may 3,5 months ago:
Total testosterone: 14.2 (8.0-35.0)
Free testosterone: 2.8* (3.0-14.7)
SHBG: 51 (8-60)
S-LH 6.0 (1.0-12)
S-FSH 3.0 (1.0-12)

I guess the SHBG is high for a reason, because it registrers my total testosterone as low?
At the moment it is a little bit struggle to get my hands on clomid.
Would HCG do things even worse because Iam maybe past that point as the testicles are responding to the LH and FSH?

My libido is non excistent, I do have depressions, brain fog and erection problems.
The doctors and the endocrinologist can only advice me to wait it out. I have been waiting for 14 months and feels like something must be done!
Any advice? Sorry for bad English.

 

[oxymoron]

I would think ur shbg would be even higher to supress ur test that severely. A few questions for u...
Can we get the rest of ur stats... ht, wt, body fat?

How many cycles did u do over the course of yr, 6 wks on then 4-6 off for 52 wks? Did u pulse straight thru?

Whats been ur recovery plan so far??? What products?

 

[nosion]

Over the course of that year I think i went trough 8, maybe 10 bottles of 10mg x 90cap epistane.
I did 40-60mg 3 times a week. 6-8 weeks on, then probably 4-8 weeks off.
Stats currently now are 188cm, 106kg's, bodyfat around 15% maybe.

My recovery plan have been a few courses of Novedex XT (gaspari), that did shoot my test levels trough the roof, but still felt like craps so something was not right. Think it gave false values.
I have done 2 months of nolvadex to cure "puffy nipples". Just lately I have done ultrasound and a mammogram, there is no sign of gyno. The endocrinologist said it would reduce with time because it may be from the hormonal imbalance Iam going trough.
Other that that, I do 5000 ui vitamin D daily, zma before bed and a diet with lots of good fats.

 

[oxymoron]

You should try and kickstart things with 500 iu of hcg then get on a good pct program.
If you don't have any hcg handy then just get urself a bottle of Protein Factory Unleashed and Protein Factory Post Cycle. Take those bottles per the instruction and get blood work done again and re-assess. You may want to look into phytoserms-347 at ruthless supplements. It an old product thats returned with an improved formula. Go ahead and order the Unleashed and Post Cycle and start it asap. This is a tough one so u may want to message Stevesmi or DylanG and see what they have to say. Get on what i recommended at a minimum to start tho.

 

[RickRock13]

Its going to be tough to determine the correct course of action to recover from this because of the length of time you were suppressed, and the length of time its been since with no real recovery of your test levels.

You may have to do HRT to be normal again, but I would do a good PCT first to see if that works.

Get dome Clomid and run Unleashed and post cycle with it. Maybe even throw in some HCGenerate also.

Then get another blood test to see if that helps

Also... did you ever get liver enzymes checked after pulsing EPI so long? That us a long time to be putting that much stress on your liver with toxic orals

 

[nosion]

The liver values are still a little high, but ultrasound showed no damage done.
I thought of doing a serm pct with clomid first to see where things are at, how long after clomid can another blood test be done, 2 months?
There is no problem getting hcg,but Iam unsure about hcg, I thought it was for total shutdown?

Thanks for reply's

 

[oxymoron]

Clomid's half life is only 5-6 days so i'd say try the clomid to start ur pituary for maybe a month and then test again a 2-3 wks later. That'd give u a solid 2 wks on ur own. The tougher question i think u've got is at what dosage. I lean towards 50mg b/c i've had good luck there but ur situation is kind of unique.

Regardless i would still get on some Unleashed to reduce shbg and Post Cycle to help with libido.