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help on susaston

susaston, sounds like a japanese cooking utensil, anyway 2 pokes a week, one amp a poke till there gone, have you heard of PCT?
 
tattooi2k said:
ok bros 1st cycle i only got 15 amps how should i run it thanks

What do you have (on hand) for PCT

what are your stats
Age
yrs lifting
weight
hieght
body fat
 
If it is Sust250..... run 375 mg/wk for 10 weeks, with adex .5mg ed, skip 2 weeks after last inject, clomid 300mg day1, 100mg day2-14, .5 mg day 15-30.

Thats my .02


Ego Boner


I am currently on a 10 weeker of sust 500mg/wk

GOOD STUFF LOVE IT :)
 
tattooi2k said:
im 6,1 225 36 about 17 bf


What do you have (on hand) for your PCT
 
jokerswild said:
susaston, sounds like a japanese cooking utensil, anyway 2 pokes a week, one amp a poke till there gone, have you heard of PCT?

This about sums it up..500mg a week 2 injections a week, Till bye bye no more left
 
tattooi2k said:
ok bros 1st cycle i only got 15 amps how should i run it thanks


you need more, but if thats all you have to work with, 2 amps per wk 500mg.
 
tattooi2k:

15 amps is a little short. You need at least 24 to be able to shoot 2 amps per weeks for 12 wks. 1 amp of Sust alone a wk is a waste of money.
 
ego boner said:
If it is Sust250..... run 375 mg/wk for 10 weeks, with adex .5mg ed, skip 2 weeks after last inject, clomid 300mg day1, 100mg day2-14, .5 mg day 15-30.

Thats my .02


Ego Boner


I am currently on a 10 weeker of sust 500mg/wk

GOOD STUFF LOVE IT :)

Is it really 2 weeks after the last shot of Sustanon before u start the PCT? I thought it was 2 weeks for Test E, but 3 weeks for Sustanon due to some of the esters being slower. Guess I was mistaken?? I coulda sworn reading 3 weeks for sust somewhere.... :worried:
 
You are going to be very disapointed. IMO, two amps of sust a week is not worth a shit. I beleive you need to hit it EOD. Your blood levels are going to be bouncing all over the place! If you can, pick up some test Enth or Cyp and use those Sust amps as kick starter.

Remember Bros, there is a huge difference between 500mgs of Sust and 500 mgs of Enth/Cyp! I wish I still had that web site that showed you what your relative Blood levels of test end up being with different esters. Does anyone else here remember it?
 
Do NOT avoid all the advice you are getting about PCT--That was my biggest mistake with my first cycle!!!! I learned the hard way.
 
tattooi2k said:
ya brobley not but to late cant just let them sit there what would you say to stack with getting it no prob

If you're a novice you should be able to get good results injecting 1 amp (250mg) every 5 days. If you can get your hands on some dbol, get enough so you can take 25 to 30 mg per day for the first 4 to 6 weeks.

Most will tell you that it's not enough. However, if you don't have a great deal of experience and you react well to the sust and dbol (almost everyone does), I am certain that you will be very happy with the results.

As indicated above, get you PCT together before you start or it will be all for naught.

Enjoy!
 
growthspurt said:
You are going to be very disapointed. IMO, two amps of sust a week is not worth a shit. I beleive you need to hit it EOD. Your blood levels are going to be bouncing all over the place! If you can, pick up some test Enth or Cyp and use those Sust amps as kick starter.

Remember Bros, there is a huge difference between 500mgs of Sust and 500 mgs of Enth/Cyp! I wish I still had that web site that showed you what your relative Blood levels of test end up being with different esters. Does anyone else here remember it?

Many, many, many first time AAS users get GREAT gains from 250mg/week of sus. I know - it was one of the first cycles I did.

forget the EOD, every 5 days, - just shoot it once a week. I've been using Sus for YEARS and once/week is perfect.

If someone hasn't ever tried AAS , why would "anyone" suggest a large dose of Sus (or any other AAS) without seeing how his/her body responds to low doses? If he can make nice, solid gains off 250/week, then why go to 500 or 750?

IMHO I think way too many people are taking WAY more AAS than they actually need.

First Cycle - 250mg/week sus 12 weeks (save the 3 amps for another time)
Just "please" don't forget PCT.

I think you'll be happy with the results.

Good luck bro
 
itlnstln said:
Many, many, many first time AAS users get GREAT gains from 250mg/week of sus. I know - it was one of the first cycles I did.

forget the EOD, every 5 days, - just shoot it once a week. I've been using Sus for YEARS and once/week is perfect.

If someone hasn't ever tried AAS , why would "anyone" suggest a large dose of Sus (or any other AAS) without seeing how his/her body responds to low doses? If he can make nice, solid gains off 250/week, then why go to 500 or 750?

IMHO I think way too many people are taking WAY more AAS than they actually need.

First Cycle - 250mg/week sus 12 weeks (save the 3 amps for another time)
Just "please" don't forget PCT.

I think you'll be happy with the results.

Good luck bro
I have to agree with ItlnStln here. My first cycle most eveyone was recommending much larger doses than I took and I got awesome results. If it's your first take it easy. You don't have any idea how your body is gonna react, some peoples bodies freak out on just a small amount of AAS so I wouldn't go more that 250 e/w at first maybe go 8-10 wks 250e/w for wks 1-4 see how your body reacts. If you are feeling it and starting to get gains with no sides then decide. You may end up staying at that dose, or may want to up it. I wouldn't go bigger on your first cycle just to be safe but that's just my opinion. I have many bro's that did their first cycle just 8 wks sust 250 e/w and got awesome results. D-bol or even anavar wouldn't be bad to add to it at a fair dose. I guess it depends on what you're looking for. Definitley get PCT prob Nolva 40mg e/d wk i then 20mg e/d for 2 weeks more. Just my .02
 
itlnstln said:
Many, many, many first time AAS users get GREAT gains from 250mg/week of sus. I know - it was one of the first cycles I did.

forget the EOD, every 5 days, - just shoot it once a week. I've been using Sus for YEARS and once/week is perfect.

If someone hasn't ever tried AAS , why would "anyone" suggest a large dose of Sus (or any other AAS) without seeing how his/her body responds to low doses? If he can make nice, solid gains off 250/week, then why go to 500 or 750?

IMHO I think way too many people are taking WAY more AAS than they actually need.

First Cycle - 250mg/week sus 12 weeks (save the 3 amps for another time)
Just "please" don't forget PCT.

I think you'll be happy with the results.

Good luck bro

I agree to a point......but to each their own. If you want to run such small dossages of test, then I think Enth or Cyp are a better choice than Sust(once a week). I don't dispute that you got gains off such a low dossage. But the fact remains that with esters such as Prop in a sust blend, frequent injections favor more even blood levels. So with that said, you could theroetically run sust at a higher dossage, because pound for pound it does NOT match up to a single ester Test.
 
growthspurt said:
I agree to a point......but to each their own. If you want to run such small dossages of test, then I think Enth or Cyp are a better choice than Sust(once a week). I don't dispute that you got gains off such a low dossage. But the fact remains that with esters such as Prop in a sust blend, frequent injections favor more even blood levels. So with that said, you could theroetically run sust at a higher dossage, because pound for pound it does NOT match up to a single ester Test.

Sure it does - and the point is - ALL HE HAS IS SUS.

250mg/week - first cycle - perfect.
500-750/week - eod injections - bad advice.
 
itlnstln said:
Sure it does - and the point is - ALL HE HAS IS SUS.

250mg/week - first cycle - perfect.
500-750/week - eod injections - bad advice.


And my point is, Enth and Cyp are a better choice for a newb! I'm not saying he should do 750mgs/week, I'm saying save the Sust until he get's a couple cycles under his belt! The more stable he keeps those blood levels, the less chance of side effects kicking in. I don't care who ran Sust their first time and gained 20lbs. Fact is it's a piss poor choice.
 
growthspurt said:
And my point is, Enth and Cyp are a better choice for a newb! I'm not saying he should do 750mgs/week, I'm saying save the Sust until he get's a couple cycles under his belt! The more stable he keeps those blood levels, the less chance of side effects kicking in. I don't care who ran Sust their first time and gained 20lbs. Fact is it's a piss poor choice.

Again - you're DEAD WRONG

Sus has and always will be a GREAT first cycle AAS.
 
growthspurt said:
OK................you're right, I'm wrong(as usual). :rolleyes:

not trying to prove you wrong - everything isn't always about "you"

I'm trying to help a guy out with his first cycle.
(it's about him)
 
itlnstln said:
not trying to prove you wrong - everything isn't always about "you"

I'm trying to help a guy out with his first cycle.
(it's about him)


OK I'll talk to you later Bro I gotta get going. I think this might be worth debating through pm.............I bet I change your mind, you stubborn Daego!LOL.
 
growthspurt said:
OK I'll talk to you later Bro I gotta get going. I think this might be worth debating through pm.............I bet I change your mind, you stubborn Daego!LOL.

I don't bet
 
i have LOVED my SUST at 500mg/wk and i poke every monday morning and thursday afternoon... my first cycle and no craziness heading into week six on monday :)
 
growthspurt said:
And my point is, Enth and Cyp are a better choice for a newb! I'm not saying he should do 750mgs/week, I'm saying save the Sust until he get's a couple cycles under his belt! The more stable he keeps those blood levels, the less chance of side effects kicking in. I don't care who ran Sust their first time and gained 20lbs. Fact is it's a piss poor choice.

Although I do prefer to see newbies with a straight 1test cycle, sust is still a great choice for a newbie. It's # 2 on my list of AS.
 
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