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Help me out Brohams!!!
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oh god they still have 18x what crap, ok man here is the deal ive done the 18x, I did 4 years Marine Inf. then got out a few years then though dam I can be SF no problem, The problem is the Army likes to use that program to get people in. Only 25 to 30 percent make it, and we are talking the best out there, the rest will get sent where the Army needs them. Think about that. As for me I tryed it and after I did not get picked I was sent off to a Inf unit in Germany for 4 years, If I where you,I would take a good MOS, something you will be able to us the rest of your life. Just my 2 cents, anyway like everyone has said lifting dont mean shit to tha army they want skinny guys so lose all the weight you can and run your ass off.
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Stats are as follows: Age 28, weight 196, height 70 in., bf 14%.
and just so you know ar-600-9 army reg for weight control program, look it up you will need it, says at 70 inches max weight is 185 so you are overweight to the army and will have to get a tape test every time. at your age 22% is max so you will pass easy but they will always give you crap about it, dont get me wrong I love the military my wife is in the army right now. Just please do your homework and pick a good Mos you can live with. If you have any question please ask Ive done 8 years Marine, Army airborne, Ranger, Sfas, my wife is in basic right now and my brother is a 1st sgt in the 82nd and is a Ranger with 19 years in. So please ask tons of questions befor you sign that contract...
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chefbone said:So here's the deal... I'm going into the U.S. Army( Special Forces and/or Ranger School) and may need some help from guys with conditioning and or military experience. My reason for joining is I'm tired of sitting around watching shit go down and not being able to help out first hand.
Here is my daily routine:
Wake-up: 2 caps lipo 6+ Run 2 miles
Breakfast: 1 1/2 cups oatmeal, 23gwhey/5g glutamine shake+banana
1 hour later: Animal Pak, flax seed caps 1000mg
11:00 a.m.W shake= 23g whey+5g glutamine, 2 caps lipo6
Gym: 1 hr weights+30-45 min. cardio
PWO:23g whey+5g glutamine & power bar
2:30: 1 can tuna+2 pieces whole wheat+apple
5:00: 2 caps lipo6+8oz lean meat+5 oz. Brown rice+broccoli or cauliflower
8:00: 1/2 peanuts+5oz. lean meat or fish.
11:30: 23g casein+5g glutamine
12:00: ZMA+rest
(two days lift, one day rest)
chest/bi's, back/tri's, quads/hams, delts/traps***one day abs, one day calves
I drink about 2 gallons of water everday. Nothing else.
I am leaving in August or October. I was going to start another cycle in late June consisting of 500mg Test E+400-600mg of EQ for 12 weeks & pct.
Question 1. Should I do the cycle?
If so: Will I test clean for the physical in October?
Question 2: What kind of training should I be doing to prepare myself to be the best of the best?
Stats are as follows: Age 28, weight 196, height 70 in., bf 14%.
Any advice from you guys would be awesome. Please bro's, help me out. If there's anything on here you think I should change, I am all ears(eyes).
carbs are a LITTLE over 200g looks like...is that all you need or what...that's gonna be tough to maintain
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you fat fuck.now who is lazzy.I did my time I made ranger bitch.lets see if you can.you fucked with the wrong bro to flame.I will flam you evry chance I get know to.my wife will be flaming you to.next time think befor you send that red my way............................vhmarine said:
Whoa....., slow your role, princess. You started talking shit as if I had no chance on making. Dude, you have no idea who I am. Nor do I know who you are. One thing I do know is this, you can't spell to save your life. And if some monkey-fuckin', illiterate douche-bag as yourself has the mental capacity to make it as a Ranger, I am more than certain that I can too.
Have a nice day , Junior.
p.s. If you were a Ranger you should know about covering your tracks, right.
So,if you feel the urge to re-post on this thread again, use a spell check to save yourself from embarassment.
p.p.s Thanks for the bomb
Have a nice day , Junior.
p.s. If you were a Ranger you should know about covering your tracks, right.
So,if you feel the urge to re-post on this thread again, use a spell check to save yourself from embarassment.
p.p.s Thanks for the bomb
chefbone,
Hey bro.....I did the enlisted thing in the army for 4 years and I'd say the one thing I learned most is how the army works. Vhmarine is right with what he says...you'll become quite familiar with the term "Needs of the Army". That is what is going to happen to you if you fail Ranger or SF school. They do in fact get people in on that idea....very few of them pass the schools...and even fewer of them know that if they don't pass they will be assigned a Military Occupational Skill (MOS) according to the "Needs of the Army". So if you in fact opt for a SF contract...and you fail any part of the school....if the army is in need of cooks...or water transport specialists...guess what job they will assign you. Instead of dodging bullets in the heat of battle...you'll be pulling Kitchen Patrol (KP) in some wasteland desert. Depending on your ASVAB test score you have many options....pick a job...a cool one that you will like......look at all of the ones you are eligable for....ask more questions...to us guys who have been in...and then make an INFORMED decision!! It will pay off in the end. I enlisted as a communications guy.......since then I went the officer route and am an MP. The army is great if you get what you want out of it....cause believe me...Uncle Sam will eventually get what he wants out of you!
As far as lifting goes...notice the trend of what people are telling you...stop lifting weights.....do push-ups....do sit-ups.....and RUN FOREST RUN!!!!! Endurance and mental toughness swill be your greatest weapons in training....and you need to be proficient in training before you will be able to kick ass on the battle field. Good Luck bro......I think its awsome that you want to do your part for our country.......Thanks!!!
Hey bro.....I did the enlisted thing in the army for 4 years and I'd say the one thing I learned most is how the army works. Vhmarine is right with what he says...you'll become quite familiar with the term "Needs of the Army". That is what is going to happen to you if you fail Ranger or SF school. They do in fact get people in on that idea....very few of them pass the schools...and even fewer of them know that if they don't pass they will be assigned a Military Occupational Skill (MOS) according to the "Needs of the Army". So if you in fact opt for a SF contract...and you fail any part of the school....if the army is in need of cooks...or water transport specialists...guess what job they will assign you. Instead of dodging bullets in the heat of battle...you'll be pulling Kitchen Patrol (KP) in some wasteland desert. Depending on your ASVAB test score you have many options....pick a job...a cool one that you will like......look at all of the ones you are eligable for....ask more questions...to us guys who have been in...and then make an INFORMED decision!! It will pay off in the end. I enlisted as a communications guy.......since then I went the officer route and am an MP. The army is great if you get what you want out of it....cause believe me...Uncle Sam will eventually get what he wants out of you!
As far as lifting goes...notice the trend of what people are telling you...stop lifting weights.....do push-ups....do sit-ups.....and RUN FOREST RUN!!!!! Endurance and mental toughness swill be your greatest weapons in training....and you need to be proficient in training before you will be able to kick ass on the battle field. Good Luck bro......I think its awsome that you want to do your part for our country.......Thanks!!!
Hey V, thanks for the input. I do understand the "Need for the Army" 100%. I don't plan on failing, it just isn't an option.
I have been running 2 miles every morning for the last 2 months. I know this is just a crumb of what I'll be running while I'm in. So, for the past three days, I've added another 2 mile run in the afternoon. Walk, crawl, run(lol). Next week I'll add a third 2 miler at night. Within the next 2-3 months, I should be running 5 miles twice a day. I hope that is not pushing it.
So, I should give up weights? What if I work out light 3 times a week with high reps? I do push-up and sit-ups every morning(50 p-u's in 2 min, 80 s-u's in 2 min). Slowly, but surely, I'll be where I need to be.
Do you have an exact training regimen I should follow? It would be beneficial!!
Thanks
I have been running 2 miles every morning for the last 2 months. I know this is just a crumb of what I'll be running while I'm in. So, for the past three days, I've added another 2 mile run in the afternoon. Walk, crawl, run(lol). Next week I'll add a third 2 miler at night. Within the next 2-3 months, I should be running 5 miles twice a day. I hope that is not pushing it.
So, I should give up weights? What if I work out light 3 times a week with high reps? I do push-up and sit-ups every morning(50 p-u's in 2 min, 80 s-u's in 2 min). Slowly, but surely, I'll be where I need to be.
Do you have an exact training regimen I should follow? It would be beneficial!!
Thanks
I use to be the Physical Fitness guru at my old unit...so its funny you ask. Let me ask you a few questions...whats the fastest time you can run 2 miles in? Do that and let me know where you are at.
You said you can do 50 push-ups in 2 minutes....well my friend...you need to get that up if you want to max the P.T. test. Your sit-ups are about where they should be, but depending on your age at the time you take your P.T. test you will have to do a few more.
Right now my 2 mile time is 12:23...which is good as i'm going to get...my pushups are at 95 in two minutes and my sit-ups are at 92 in two minutes. I got a buddy who can do over 110 reps in each event...but the dude weighs like 120 lbs and is a little machine. I think i'm at my peak as far as the P.T. test goes.
One of the most important things about push-ups and sit-ups is your form. Most people have jacked up form when it comes to doing proper push-ups and sit-ups. When forced to do them to the Army's Physical Fitness Test standards they find tha they cannot perform as many repititions as they thought they could (I found this out first hand). A guy can think he does 80 push-ups in 2 minutes...but when forced to...move his body up and down in a complete unit...and go all the way down...and come all the way up (to the point of locking out your elbows) they find that their 80 quickly drops to 50. The same goes with the sit-ups. I use to tell my troops that proper form was the most important thing....so first...make sure your form is up to par. have someone watch you do 20 push-ups and have them critique your form...i'm sure your local recruiter would be happy to do this for ya.
As fas as raising your push-ups....push-ups bars work wonders! You can go far lower using push-ups bars than you can putting your palms on the floor. Do all of your push-ups on some bars....and go ALL THE WAY DOWN. After a few weeks you'll find that they are getting easier...so once your body becomes used to the push-ups on the bars you'll find that a regular push-ups is a breeze. 50 proper pushups on a set of bars will will turn into 80 push-ups on the ground!! (catch my drift here?). If you don't have a set of push-up bars use a few books stacked up....or even some dumbells.
I love the pyramid for push-ups.....depending on how many you can do start at 10 reps on a pair of bars...rest for 30 seconds...then do 9.....rest...do 8..all the way down to 1...and then work your way back up to 10. Once you get use to this bump it up to 12...then 14....then 16.... don't forget to incorporate wide-arm push-ups...and close-hand push-ups...you'll get a different burn from all of these. Do a set of 10 pyramids.....regular distance...then a set close-hand...and then a set of wide-arms...you'll get an unbelievable pump from this routine!! If you don't...then I wouldn't worry about passing the P.T. test...you'll be fine.
As far as sit-ups are concerned....they don't really measure abdominal strength.....I mean they do depend on the endurance of yoru abdominals, but most people find that when doing sit-ups their hip-flexors give out way before their abs do. So don't just think that crunches will help you do more sit-ups.....you can't forget them hip-flexors. So for these I had my troops do a lot of flutter kicks....and leg elevations. If your in a gym a decline sit-up bench will work awsome! Do a set of 40 and see what burns more....our abs...or your hip-flexors. This should tell you where you are at. Doing 80 sit-ups in 2 minutes is pretty good according to the Army standards...so I wouldn't worry to much. Just keep doing sit-ups!!! The best thing to help you do more push-ups and sit-ups is doing more push-ups and sit-ups!
As far as your run goes....5 miles two times a day is a little much for me. If your going to do that twice a day i'd just stick to doing push-ups and sit-ups on the side and leave the weights alone. If you can't give up the weights...then i'd just run the 5 once a day...do push-ups and sit-ups...and then lift a few times a week. Like you said...keep it light and you'll be fine. You'll find that mass is not your friend when it comes to endurance....I could ruck march 12 miles in 2 hrs and 8 minutes at 158 lean!!!! (i'm only 5'6") At 186 solid my ruck march time turned to 2 hrs and 48 minutes!!! And my 2-mile run time started to suck! Well bro...thats enough for now...hit me up if you have anymore Q's....laters..
Vandel
You said you can do 50 push-ups in 2 minutes....well my friend...you need to get that up if you want to max the P.T. test. Your sit-ups are about where they should be, but depending on your age at the time you take your P.T. test you will have to do a few more.
Right now my 2 mile time is 12:23...which is good as i'm going to get...my pushups are at 95 in two minutes and my sit-ups are at 92 in two minutes. I got a buddy who can do over 110 reps in each event...but the dude weighs like 120 lbs and is a little machine. I think i'm at my peak as far as the P.T. test goes.
One of the most important things about push-ups and sit-ups is your form. Most people have jacked up form when it comes to doing proper push-ups and sit-ups. When forced to do them to the Army's Physical Fitness Test standards they find tha they cannot perform as many repititions as they thought they could (I found this out first hand). A guy can think he does 80 push-ups in 2 minutes...but when forced to...move his body up and down in a complete unit...and go all the way down...and come all the way up (to the point of locking out your elbows) they find that their 80 quickly drops to 50. The same goes with the sit-ups. I use to tell my troops that proper form was the most important thing....so first...make sure your form is up to par. have someone watch you do 20 push-ups and have them critique your form...i'm sure your local recruiter would be happy to do this for ya.
As fas as raising your push-ups....push-ups bars work wonders! You can go far lower using push-ups bars than you can putting your palms on the floor. Do all of your push-ups on some bars....and go ALL THE WAY DOWN. After a few weeks you'll find that they are getting easier...so once your body becomes used to the push-ups on the bars you'll find that a regular push-ups is a breeze. 50 proper pushups on a set of bars will will turn into 80 push-ups on the ground!! (catch my drift here?). If you don't have a set of push-up bars use a few books stacked up....or even some dumbells.
I love the pyramid for push-ups.....depending on how many you can do start at 10 reps on a pair of bars...rest for 30 seconds...then do 9.....rest...do 8..all the way down to 1...and then work your way back up to 10. Once you get use to this bump it up to 12...then 14....then 16.... don't forget to incorporate wide-arm push-ups...and close-hand push-ups...you'll get a different burn from all of these. Do a set of 10 pyramids.....regular distance...then a set close-hand...and then a set of wide-arms...you'll get an unbelievable pump from this routine!! If you don't...then I wouldn't worry about passing the P.T. test...you'll be fine.
As far as sit-ups are concerned....they don't really measure abdominal strength.....I mean they do depend on the endurance of yoru abdominals, but most people find that when doing sit-ups their hip-flexors give out way before their abs do. So don't just think that crunches will help you do more sit-ups.....you can't forget them hip-flexors. So for these I had my troops do a lot of flutter kicks....and leg elevations. If your in a gym a decline sit-up bench will work awsome! Do a set of 40 and see what burns more....our abs...or your hip-flexors. This should tell you where you are at. Doing 80 sit-ups in 2 minutes is pretty good according to the Army standards...so I wouldn't worry to much. Just keep doing sit-ups!!! The best thing to help you do more push-ups and sit-ups is doing more push-ups and sit-ups!
As far as your run goes....5 miles two times a day is a little much for me. If your going to do that twice a day i'd just stick to doing push-ups and sit-ups on the side and leave the weights alone. If you can't give up the weights...then i'd just run the 5 once a day...do push-ups and sit-ups...and then lift a few times a week. Like you said...keep it light and you'll be fine. You'll find that mass is not your friend when it comes to endurance....I could ruck march 12 miles in 2 hrs and 8 minutes at 158 lean!!!! (i'm only 5'6") At 186 solid my ruck march time turned to 2 hrs and 48 minutes!!! And my 2-mile run time started to suck! Well bro...thats enough for now...hit me up if you have anymore Q's....laters..
Vandel
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