Help me get my libido and "drive" back!

[IncognitoBrother]

Help me get my libido and "drive" back!

2 years ago I did some gear. I have never really felt the same since.

PLEASE help guys (experienced bro here posting incognito).

I am looking for some knowledgeable help here.

A fast as I can explain this histrory

Nov 2000 (and before) - Healthy libido, drive and had a lot of energy. Very healthy sex life, and motivation in general.

Nov-Dec 2000 - Did one round of pro-hormones, some spray-on crap and some nose-spray shit.

Apr 2001 - Did 8 week cycle of Test & EQ. Come off with Clomid and Liquidex.

Ever since January 2001, I have had much much, lower sex drive. My erection feel like it has never been the same. Also much lower "drive" in general (like motivation, being able to like "get into" stuff etc).

Guys I know it could be many things (maybe depression, overtraining, etc) but I have done of lot of investigation. I know people have ups and downs, I have backed off on training.

But looking back, I can honestly say that ever since my pro-hormone and REAL gear experiences (Test and EQ), that I have NOT been the same.

MUCH lower sex drive.

Just not much "drive" in general.

Any ideas?

I am beginning to think that maybe I just did not recover. Sure after 2 DAMNED YEARS you might I would have, but still. Something just does not seem right - and no matter what I do, it traces back to that time.

Maybe there is a hormone imbalance in general, that's possible I guess. If I was to buy a kit and test these myself (or get them tested), what should I look for?

Any other ideas?

 

[Tigrones]

Yes, it is very hard to imagine that AS you took 2 years ago will still hinder your libido etc.
However, there may be more factors involved than one would think.

Stress and fatigue

Perhaps the leading cause of lost sexual desire is stress and fatigue. Most often, the condition is temporary and returns when the stressful period ends, or the person is able to get appropriate rest. The fact that you have not much "drive" in general, indicates that you may have been under some sort of stress (even though on surface it may not appear so or you are not aware of it).

Physiological causes

Not all the causes of low sexual desire are psychological in nature. Low sexual desire can be caused by a low level of the hormone androgen. Hormonal deficiency can sometimes be treated with hormone injections. Consult your doctor and get tested.

Anything that adversely affects your metabolism will undoubtedly cause some lack of sexual desire. This may include an accident, trauma or illness that causes a metabolic disturbance.

Loss of erotic associations

The loss of libido can be a psychological process whereby the brain systematically re-labels stimuli which were once erotic as non-erotic. Sexually appealing stimuli in the environment are no longer associated with arousal.

Your question is very difficult to answer, so consult your doctor, run some tests. And of course, you can always enlist help from a very sexy sex therapist.
Good luck!

 

[IncognitoBrother]

I understand what you are saying, these are good points. I have considered these things already.

Stress - yes, I think for some time that may have been a part of it. But I backed way off on training and really took a lot of stres out of my life.

Physiological - thats what I think its down to ...

Erotica asociations - I unmderstand what you are saying but I dont think this is the case.

These questions of mine come not from the start of an investigation, but after tring for a long time to figure this out ....

and yeah, I know, stress and worrying about it can be a factor.

But thats the thing, look, its been 2+ years. everyone has highs and lows. Times when several hot babes are in your rotation and a few weeks with nothing around. Times of stress and calm. ...

But when I look back it has NOT been the same (my drive, sexually and otherwise) ever since my cycles.


When you go to a doc, you hear "well, you arent 19 any more - "
NO SHIT DOC! LOL

Yeah, having a great doc who would test whatever and wheneverI wanted would be great but thats not my situtaion right now.

I was thinking, basd on experince on this board, does this SOUND like any problems with any specifc hormone(s)? Or something else? I know that you can buy various testing kits to check various hormones (do -it-yourself tests), and I am wondering - which ones would I want to test?

Money is tight now, and doing THAT to find what is wrong is much cheaper than going to a doc, who will want to take me through 4-5 appoinments of BS before ordering the full battery of tests (ever try to get a general parctitioner to order a full endoccrine screening?).

So - what do you think?


I sincerely appreciate the help. Thanks.

 

[Lift Chief]

Go to your doctor and get your Test level tested... that way you'll know if your problems are physiological or not.

 

[ironmaster]

And if your T levels are good, then you are exhibiting the phsycological effects of steroid use. I think gear is rather addictive in it's own way.......after you've been big, who wants to be small, be less "potent", etc.
Most of us here who are longterm, hardcore users can't quit, at least not for very long.

 

[IncognitoBrother]

Do you think that “T” levels, just by themselves, are the issue probably?

I know it sounds simple to just say “tell a Doc to run a test”, but my situation makes that a bit difficult. Low on funds with no insurance, having a Doc (and a general prac at that) “try to find out” what is out of balance would be very expensive – requiring several doctor visits and a lot of very expensive lab work.

Plus, most experienced bros in here probably know endocrinology better than most GPs!

Plus, I don’t think its am matter of psychological addiction. Its not like I was ever “huge” and ON for a long time and then came off...

I was thinking more along the lines of these tests (saliva test) which you can buy online that allow you to screen various hormones and see what the levels are. At least if I had an idea of what to test (Test, LH, FSH, Prolactin, Estrogen .. I dunno....... I cant even list ‘em all) for I could narrow it down.

By the way, some bodybuilding-related “store” used to have a bunch of those tests (saliva-based hormone tests). I though it was the AF store but now I cant find them. Does anyone know what other sites/stores may carry such things?

 

[Nelson Montana]

First question:

Are your testicles atrophied or recessed?

Next: Those saliva tests aren't all that accurate and aren't recognized by many docs so you'll have to go the traditional route anyway. If you're broke, go to clinic and get a complete blood test. That's the only way to know for sure. The results don't lie.

 

[genarr3]

Go to your doctor and get your Test level tested... that way you'll know if your problems are physiological or not.

Exactly. That's what I did. Otherwise you're just guessing.

 

[CrazyD]

My first cycle of anything performance enhancing drug was Tbol. It contained the prohormon 1,4 andro the precursor to equipoise. I had awesome strength increases put on 12 in four weeks and was really horny while on. At that time I was recommended Tbol by a supplement store owner I knew but he didn't mention anything about post cycle anti-e's and let me tell you how bad my crash was! It lasted a solid 6-7 months! I had absolutely no sexual stamina too!

My post-cycle treatments since then have included nolvadex, clomid, and once 6oxo (which worked for me). I am currently two weeks into my post cycle and coming back strong.

Try running a cycle of nolvadex and clomid for 6 weeks. I know that is what a lot of the older body builders have done in lieu of doctor prescribed fertility treatment.

 

[deez]

Bro i am in the same boat as you. And not many bros i think can totally relate. I have asked question about this many times and still have not found a solid answer. My first cycle consisted of only 4 amps of sustanon ( dont ask) and i actually crashed off of that. Never did any post cycle treatment. Actually gained 15 pounds and kept it all.Up until then i had hard ons that i would give alll the money in the world for now. After that i had trouble getting it up unless i was really really into the girl. Condoms were impossible to use. I would lose wood by the time i got it out of the wrapper and on my slong. Then even after i think i recovered naturally, a few months, my head was all fucked up from problems i had with girls in the past since juicing. There was ummm maybe 3 girls i had problems getting hard with and then after that, i would only think about having that problem when i was with the next girl. It sucks. This has been going on for two years now. And i still cycle every 4 months. I need a break i really do. A nd i think a good year off will do good but im really close to being satisfied with my size and i think after this one i will be able to stop a while and see if i can get that wood i had 3 years ago back. But it just seems no when i get it up i have to fuck right then or i will lose it and it takes for ever to get it up. Wow this is getting long.......Ok, for example, i was messin arounf with this girl, ik get hard or whatever , then i go down on her for awhile and shes wanting it bad. Well i had had it up for 10 minutes or so and lost my chub. I couldnt get it back to sav my life. Even with her pullin on it. I dont know bro it just streesses me everyday. But i want to be big too. I think its all in your head cause thats 90 percent of erections. I know my head is just messed up. I have to get going now but if you want to pm me later bro i will hit ya back. I feel for ya man, honestly. I think if you have your t levels checked you will be in the normal range. Take it easy.