Help Me Cut!! Please? Hydroxycut, or ECA, or What?

[killerbeez]

Hey I've been waiting to hit the 400 mark on bench, and then I was going to cut. Well I hit it yesterday, so now I'm gonna start cutting.
Anyways, what's the best supplement to safely help me lose some bf%, but still keep as much muscle mass as possible?
I was looking at Hydroxycut, and/or an ECA, but I don't know. I'm also only 18, but I should be safe for ECA I'd think.
Thanks a million for any help!!!

 

[ProtienFiend]

eca is fine... look for ephedrine hcl....

maybe some clenbuterol.... dont really want to reccommend it since its illegal... but visit the anamolic board and do some research...

green tea extract is also good... try blackstarlabs.com

you can try proteinfactory.com 's product ZIP!... its non stimulative but its worth a shot

or anabolicfitness.net 's product thermorexin.... similar to eca i think...

 

[killerbeez]

oh yeah, what about CLA?
And can you still buy ECA stacks? I know ephedra has been banned but I thought the effects of the ban don't pull though for a couple months.
And there's no way I'm taking an anabolic until I'm at least 20 or maybe 19

 

[ProtienFiend]

i just told you where to get it...

clenbuterol isnt an anabolic... its a asthma medicine....

and cla sucks... waste of money

 

[KillahBee]

Hey I've been waiting to hit the 400 mark on bench, and then I was going to cut. Well I hit it yesterday, so now I'm gonna start cutting.
Anyways, what's the best supplement to safely help me lose some bf%, but still keep as much muscle mass as possible?
I was looking at Hydroxycut, and/or an ECA, but I don't know. I'm also only 18, but I should be safe for ECA I'd think.
Thanks a million for any help!!!

If I am correct, DPS Nutrition still sells ECA stack, at least until April 12.

 

[killerbeez]

oh proteinfiend, I know you posted where to get it, but I was wondering like that for a place offline. Guess I'll try an get it online.
And I always thought clen was an anabolic. I guess 'cause everyone always talks about it on the steroid boards. I'll look into it, thanks
Personally, the legality of a product doesn't inhibit me, just the side effects and what have you. If steroids were free and legal, I still wouldn't take them until I've grown more.
Would you suggest me trying to get some clen?
thanks again!!

 

[Daisy_Girl]

IMO, Thermorexin is the most beneficial. It is a great matabolism booster and appetite suppressant. It's at the www.anabolicfitness.net Store .... with the Discount Code afdiscount, it is very reasonably priced.

 

[ProtienFiend]

IMO, Thermorexin is the most beneficial. It is a great matabolism booster and appetite suppressant. It's at the www.anabolicfitness.net Store .... with the Discount Code afdiscount, it is very reasonably priced.

hm... I'm not so sure that thermorexin is MORE beneficial... but it would be smart to rotate clen 2 weeks... thermo 2 weeks... or clen 2 days.... thermo 2 days....

 

[Daisy_Girl]

Keep in mind also, that the aformentioned person posting is only 18 years old....maybe too young to be messing with illegal substances.

With a good diet and solid training program - it is really a wash on what supplements you use. The main thing that will give results will be the DIET....supplements are just icing on top of that.

 

[KillahBee]

Keep in mind also, that the aformentioned person posting is only 18 years old....maybe too young to be messing with illegal substances.

With a good diet and solid training program - it is really a wash on what supplements you use. The main thing that will give results will be the DIET....supplements are just icing on top of that.

very good point.

 

[d3track]

With a good diet and solid training program - it is really a wash on what supplements you use. The main thing that will give results will be the DIET....supplements are just icing on top of that.

this is what i was gonna say
without a proper diet and training, supps and gear mean jack shit

 

[JKurz1]

DIET!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hands down.........you dont need shit if you got a solid diet.....also, did I just read you ar 18 and benching 400? What are your stats?

 

[chewyxrage]

I think you guys missed the "I hit the 400 lb mark on bench" remark.

He obviously has some idea don't assume he is a total newb.

 

[Daisy_Girl]

I think you guys missed the "I hit the 400 lb mark on bench" remark.

He obviously has some idea don't assume he is a total newb.

Being a newbie to working out has nothing to do with age. He obviously has experience working out, and has good genetics (at least for strength) and has some dedication - to do the work required to get to 400.

But that doesn't change the fact that he is 18 years old - his body is NOT totally matured. Hormonally, it is still in overdrive. Messing around with illegal substances - AAS or not - is not something I would recommend to someone his age. At 18, he still has so much untapped potential...why use drugs now when he should LEARN the basics on how to maximize what he can do naturally?

 

[killerbeez]

yeah, my diet and training are pretty good I'd say. I eat very very clean, especially for a teenager

Anyways, I don't want to cut for that long, just maybe like 4 weeks or so, and then get back on schedule gaining lean mass. And since I want to cut for so short a time (if it will even yield that great of results) I want as much help as I can get.

I asked the football coach how long it would take me to cut and he said, "You're already cut!". But then I said, "no, really cut" and he suggested about a month. I think it's a little short too, but I really am getting anxious to gain more hehe so I want to get back. Maybe I'll do 6-8 weeks.

BTW, I'm 18, about 5'10", about 190 pounds and lifted for about 4 years.

And also, the only reason I decided to cut further is I've kinda felt like I've begun to come onto an overtraining spell, so I decided to take the week off. Well this is also the week I'm cycling off creatine as I was just going to end this cycle after I hit 400 (405 yay) and it was about the 6 week mark (w/ no loading phase though), so I said, hell, I'll just cut for a while. And since I'm not going to be lifting this week it's a good time to get back in cardio.

But, like I said, I want something to help me cut fast. I wanna get back into mass/strength building pretty soon. There are about 6 people on the juice at school getting into my size territory, and I feel very very proud of myself having the highest bench in school and being one of the few (smart) natural bodybuilders, so there's a certain ego I have to keep in check haha lol

And btw, I know myself and my body, I am positive I'm ready for anything mentally, gear, clen, etc., but it's only the long term side effects at my age and my bodies state that bother me. So what about Clen and Thermorexin?

thanks again!

 

[ProtienFiend]

id say go for it... clen doesnt (really) mess with your hormones... and it is one of the best for muscle preservation while dieting (sometimes people mistake it for an anabolic)... any ways... youve heard my thoughts... just do your research and try to find the "Clen FAQ" thread on the anabolic board...

 

[killerbeez]

If I am correct, DPS Nutrition still sells ECA stack, at least until April 12.

Yeah, Thermorexin seems great but right now it'd be hard for me to spend $59.00 on it, even though it's a fair price, so I kinda want to maybe go with a cheaper ECA stack hehe. But also, is ECA anti catabolic enough or should I take some glutamine peptide with it?
Is Thermorexin anti-catabolic?
And what would be better, thermorexin or eca with glut peptides?
Now looking at dpsnutrition.com I see a "nutrasport eca stack" but the A isn't aspirin but "Acetylsalicylicá acid". What's up with that?
Thanks again for any help!!!

 

[ProtienFiend]

salicylic acid is a form of asprin...

id go ECA + the Peptides... I honestly havent used thermorexin,.. but if you dont have any heart conditions and such... ECA is a cheaper and possibly better substitute... the peptides will just seal the deal....