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[the elite addict]

Hey,
I magaged to get gyno a few cycles back. I managed to really get it down and reduced greatly but never completely gone. A week or so into my DBOL 60mg ed 1-4 (the culprit), DECA, TEST cycle it flared up like crazy. Nipples puffy, sore as hell and lumps back under both nips. Its a real headache. I have been taking proviron 25mg every day from the start of the cycle. Im pretty sure proviron is over rated as it didnt do anything for preventing my gyno from flaring nor much for my sex drive. I have letro but really dont wana run it until after cycle over in 10 weeks. Due to harsh sides and slower gains. I have nolva which is harsh for me but not as bad as letro. Should I just run maybe 10mg Nolva a day along with the 25mg proviron and hope it subsides a bit, or atleast contains it until after my cycle?

A side note, ive had my gyno under control and have run up to 600mg of test with no use of nolva, provion etc with out it flaring up at all. Its obviously the dbol that made my gyno flare up like crazy.

PLEASE HELP. stopping my cycle is out of the question. As soon as I get enough money im getting the gland removed, or maybe il try insurance.. since it could have always been from puberty...


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[dabuffguy]

Why aren't you using exmestane or arimidex to keep the estrogen in check brosky?

Nolve doesn't reduce estrogen, it only blocks the receptors.

You NEED arimidex, or better yet, since you are prone, exmestane to keep the estrogen down.

proviron won't do shit for gyno sensitive peeps.

 

[the elite addict]

Why aren't you using exmestane or arimidex to keep the estrogen in check brosky?

Nolve doesn't reduce estrogen, it only blocks the receptors.

You NEED arimidex, or better yet, since you are prone, exmestane to keep the estrogen down.

proviron won't do shit for gyno sensitive peeps.

I have letro, just hate the sides. Letro works great from reducing estrogen (a little to well). aromasin and armidex are a forturne. I wont buy anymore reseach bullshit. If Im going to spend the money for armidex or aromasin, I might as well just use the letro. Im just afraid that if I did pony up the cash for armidex or aromasin that it will case similar sides as the letro does, as ive have heard they all do.

 

[small but working on it]

I have letro, just hate the sides. Letro works great from reducing estrogen (a little to well). aromasin and armidex are a forturne. I wont buy anymore reseach bullshit. If Im going to spend the money for armidex or aromasin, I might as well just use the letro. Im just afraid that if I did pony up the cash for armidex or aromasin that it will case similar sides as the letro does, as ive have heard they all do.

That was my question bro. I was going to ask where you got your shit. I used some BS from a uh research company and it was absolute garbage. I wont name names as I will be banned or my post will pull a Copperfield and disappear but that may be the problem. Adex is the best imo and the sides are a bit less from bros I know and some personal experience but remember everyone can react different.

 

[HAYEZ]

adex is alot better then letro side wise...but it sounds like you were taking to much letro to start with...check out the link i sent you a while back for adex,theres is good shit no watererd down garbage like OTHER sites..lol..
drop the dbol for a few days until you get your adex in..take a take 1 mg the first day then .5 eod and once under control you could prob drop top .25 eod

 

[drsketch]

To try and remove the lumps I think I would start at 40mg nolva/day and reduce gear dosages. I would also get adex and start that immediately.

 

[Heath82]

is the gyno from the test or deca? if test run adex, if deca you need to run letro. dont use nolva on a deca cycle!

 

[Cardinal Slin]

Elite addict, I would honestly suggest using the letro - I know you mentioned you get some sides from it. Me too!

I use 1/4 tablet eod but sometimes every 3 days and it works great for me. If I start getting joint issues, I stop the letro at the first sign - usually tells me to relax on the letro for a bit. Nothing will work like it! If you are noticing gyno right now add in 20mgs daily of nolva along with the letro and you should be fine.

Pretty much what I did last cycle.

 

[HAYEZ]

is the gyno from the test or deca? if test run adex, if deca you need to run letro. dont use nolva on a deca cycle!

the gyno will be from the dbol. hes only been on a week..the deca isnt built up enough to cause any sides yet...but for precautionary i would grab some caber when you get the adex and keep it incase you need it...

 

[Heath82]

the gyno will be from the dbol. hes only been on a week..the deca isnt built up enough to cause any sides yet...but for precautionary i would grab some caber when you get the adex and keep it incase you need it...

i see now, good call with the caber!

 

[Cardinal Slin]

Didn't read the full post, my bad but also wrong to automatically rule out the deca. Within one week of that stuff my nipples were sensitive as heck. It was one of the first cycles I ever did and never used deca since then!

 

[rockdoc]

I have letro, just hate the sides. Letro works great from reducing estrogen (a little to well). aromasin and armidex are a forturne. I wont buy anymore reseach bullshit. If Im going to spend the money for armidex or aromasin, I might as well just use the letro. Im just afraid that if I did pony up the cash for armidex or aromasin that it will case similar sides as the letro does, as ive have heard they all do.

What are your sides from letro? I have gyno as well and I'm using 1.25 mg EOD wtih 10mg Nolva ED and its working for me. Gyno lumps have shrunk down without altering my test dose. Its the real thing too, not reasearch chem stuff. No noticeable sides. I'm going to cut the dosage down next week to see how little I can take and still maintain the effect.

 

[HAYEZ]

Didn't read the full post, my bad but also wrong to automatically rule out the deca. Within one week of that stuff my nipples were sensitive as heck. It was one of the first cycles I ever did and never used deca since then!

maybe im worng but i do not see it being possible to have gyno sypmtons off 300mg of deca injected just days apart...on the other hand dbol at 60mg a day is quite enough to spike the estrogen immediately

 

[the_alcatraz]

To try and remove the lumps I think I would start at 40mg nolva/day and reduce gear dosages. I would also get adex and start that immediately.

I would not use nolva with nandrolones.

Use caber

 

[drsketch]

I would not use nolva with nandrolones.

Use caber

Yeah the only reason I said that cause he said only one week one. If I were him I would handle the gyno first and worry about cycle later.. Just my opinion no disrespect intended.

 

[the elite addict]

I have caber. The gyno isnt from the deca. Its from the dbol. Well, actually ive had the gyuno all along, the dbol just made it flare like crazy. So I should either get ADEX or just run the LETRO at 1/4 tablet EOD? and drop the nolva?

 

[lilj888]

I would not use nolva with nandrolones.

Use caber

can u explain this to me i do not understand why nolva is a no-no with nandrolones. i have used nolva with dbol for pct everything seems fine.

i would understand that using it to treat gyno from nandrolones wouldnt work because nolva is for estrogen gyno and not progesterone gyno but i thought dbol was estrogen related

 

[cobracock1979]

no nolva!

Bro, how about reducing the dose?????? 60mg is a lotta dbol! 30mg should be plenty

 

[Cardinal Slin]

maybe im worng but i do not see it being possible to have gyno sypmtons off 300mg of deca injected just days apart...on the other hand dbol at 60mg a day is quite enough to spike the estrogen immediately

No, for sure it is from the dbol - just saying that I used deca before at only 200mgs and within a week I started getting sensitive nipples.

 

[cobracock1979]

deca gyno is from the prog, and thats triggered from the estrogen. Keep E under control = keep prog under control. However, if you have the cab run it .5mg e3d

Personally I would run aromasin full stop.

 

[the elite addict]

I think im just going to keep taking 37.5 proviron ED and 1/4 tablet letro EOD. That will keep the gyno under control atleast until Im done my cycle. I will then run the letro at 2.5 mg ED to bring these lumps down. Right now I have slight breast tissue growth. BITCH TITS SUCK