Help! Gyno is starting, Nolvadex not working!

[Rickyd]

PLEASE READ, I REALLY NEED YOUR HELP!!!!

Hey Guys,
Before I start just a small background. This cycle I just started is my 4th cycle. My past three cycles have been mainly mass cycles for 12-14 weeks in length. My past cycles have been, Anadrol (50mg ed) for 4weeks, Test Cypionate(600mg week), Trenbolone (400mg week). I've always had Nolvadex on hand, but I haven't ever had any symptoms of Gyno(itching, tenderness). Now this current cycle I've upped the mgs per week. Test Cypionate (800mg week) Nandrolone Decanote (400mg week) and to start Dianabol 40mg ed for 3weeks. This time I started to feel like the glands off to the side of my nipples were lumpy and tender, but not he actual nipple. I started taking 20mg ed of Nolvadex, and 5 days later it didn't work. I'm up to 40mg ed and it still seems like the glands are lumpy, and there is a tiny lump under my right nipple. What should I do?? This is new to me, and I'm doing what I've alway heard worked. Is gyno starting, or am I just paranoid. I'm having a really great cycle, and I don't want this to fuck it up. Thanks a lot for your help in advance. Rick.

 

[puddlemonkey]

My nips might get a little tender, but I've never had any issues with gyno resulting from it. If its the Deca causing it Nolva wont do shit, you'll need Bromo, but odds are against that being the cause.

 

[eddawg]

From what I heard Nolvadex with your cycle is going to make it worst. Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - and trenbolone with nolvadex dont mix well, I believe dostinex is your solution.

 

[needtogetaas]

PLEASE READ, I REALLY NEED YOUR HELP!!!!

Hey Guys,
Before I start just a small background. This cycle I just started is my 4th cycle. My past three cycles have been mainly mass cycles for 12-14 weeks in length. My past cycles have been, Anadrol (50mg ed) for 4weeks, Test Cypionate(600mg week), Trenbolone (400mg week). I've always had Nolvadex on hand, but I haven't ever had any symptoms of gynecomastia(itching, tenderness). Now this current cycle I've upped the mgs per week. Test Cypionate (800mg week) Nandrolone Decanote (400mg week) and to start Dianabol 40mg ed for 3weeks. This time I started to feel like the glands off to the side of my nipples were lumpy and tender, but not he actual nipple. I started taking 20mg ed of Nolvadex, and 5 days later it didn't work. I'm up to 40mg ed and it still seems like the glands are lumpy, and there is a tiny lump under my right nipple. What should I do?? This is new to me, and I'm doing what I've alway heard worked. Is gynecomastia starting, or am I just paranoid. I'm having a really great cycle, and I don't want this to fuck it up. Thanks a lot for your help in advance. Rick.

get some destinex run that .5mg eod and some letro run that .5mg oed as well till it gos away then you can start droping the doses a bit till you find what works for you.

 

[RikUFC]

AIFM.................works great.

 

[needtogetaas]

AIFM.................works great.

it is ok bro but I dont think its going to help him now.

 

[OMEGA]

Cabergoline ASAP use 1 mg the first 2 doses then go to .5 twice a week
Armomasin full dose then first 3-4 days then back off to 12.5 mgs a day

 

[Rickyd]

Thanks very much for all of the input guys, I'm just checking if these products are available from my "person"
Rick

 

[worldclass]

That's correct. Nolva increases you chances of gyno if you're taking progestins and you're using THREE of them.
Cabergoline is pretty cheap, don't buy the name brand "Dostinex" it's outrageously expensive. I agree with rikufc get AIFM to go with it. Just dropping the nolva will help.

 

[Rickyd]

Could someone please elaborate on "AIFM" don't mean to sound ignorant? Also, are these products only available with a prescription? and If I drop Nolvadex, you're saying that it will help because of the Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - , but will my condition get worse because of the Test? Will Arimedex help in this situation, because I have an immediate supply of that? I'm just really concerned because I'm getting married in the Dominican Republic on June 25, and I don't want to be worried about gynecomastia, especially down there! Thanks again guys!

 

[Slyder190]

Cabergoline ASAP use 1 mg the first 2 doses then go to .5 twice a week
Armomasin full dose then first 3-4 days then back off to 12.5 mgs a day

Solid advice. The culprit is prolly the estrogen, but better safe than sorry. Do your nips hurt? I'd keep usin Nolva as well for now.

 

[NickyE3]

Could someone please elaborate on "AIFM" don't mean to sound ignorant? Also, are these products only available with a prescription? and If I drop Nolvadex, you're saying that it will help because of the Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - , but will my condition get worse because of the Test? Will Arimedex help in this situation, because I have an immediate supply of that? I'm just really concerned because I'm getting married in the Dominican Republic on June 25, and I don't want to be worried about gynecomastia, especially down there! Thanks again guys!

aifm isn't strong enough for what you are going through.

AG Guys are a sponsor here and sell ancillaries legally as research chemicals. Although their dostinex aka bromo is quite expensive and others say all their products are a bit over prices. But I have ordered from them many times because their products and customer service has been on point.

Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - supposedly upregulates prog receptors and can make nandrolone sides worse.

 

[needtogetaas]

aifm isn't strong enough for what you are going through.

AG Guys are a sponsor here and sell ancillaries legally as research chemicals. Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - supposedly upregulates prog receptors and can make nandrolone sides worse.

thank you.

 

[Mac173]

aifm isn't strong enough for what you are going through.

AG Guys are a sponsor here and sell ancillaries legally as research chemicals. Although their dostinex aka bromo is quite expensive and others say all their products are a bit over prices. But I have ordered from them many times because their products and customer service has been on point.

Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - supposedly upregulates prog receptors and can make nandrolone sides worse.

Dostinex and Bromo. are differant.
I think you're thinking of generic Dostinex being cabergoline.

 

[Rickyd]

aifm isn't strong enough for what you are going through.

AG Guys are a sponsor here and sell ancillaries legally as research chemicals. Although their dostinex aka bromo is quite expensive and others say all their products are a bit over prices. But I have ordered from them many times because their products and customer service has been on point.

Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - supposedly upregulates prog receptors and can make nandrolone sides worse.

Thanks very much for all of your help everyone!! I really do appreciate it. I just got back from the gym, and I met my friend who informed me that he can get his hands on dostinex, but it may take a while because it isn't requested very often. But he did give me liquid A-dex, and told me to take .5mg ed, until he can get the other stuff in. Also he advised me to take a large dose of vitamin B6 everyday, it supposedly helps with gyno caused by Deca. Does this sound right to everyone? I know it isn't the ideal fix, but is it okay for now?

 

[Anthony Roberts]

Try Letrozole at .5-25mgs/day. The only thing I've ever heard of as being able to match Letrozole in it's ability to abrogate aromatase induced hyperplasia (gyno) is Procyanadin*.

(*Suppression of Estrogen Biosynthesis by Procyanadin)

 

[eando]

get some destinex run that .5mg eod and some Femera - letrozole - run that .5mg oed as well till it gos away then you can start droping the doses a bit till you find what works for you.

I agree - get some letro...

 

[NickyE3]

Dostinex and Bromo. are differant.
I think you're thinking of generic Dostinex being cabergoline.

you are right mac, good call

 

[BigGunsInc.]

get some destinex run that .5mg eod and some Femera - letrozole - run that .5mg oed as well till it gos away then you can start droping the doses a bit till you find what works for you.

I can't tell you what will work for you, but I KNOW this would work for ME..

Personally this would be my route as it has worked in the past hands down better than anything else I have ever used..

BGI-----Gyno prone