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HCGenerate while on and ball shrinks...

Bro if you're running a 12 week cycle run it like this;

1-4 hcgenerate 3 caps am 2 caps pm
4-8 hcg at 250iu x2 week
8-12 hcgenerate 3 caps am 2 caps pm
12-14 hcg 5 shots at 1000iu over the 2 week period
14-18 start your pct.
 
^^^ yup exactly.

or start hcgenerate week 5 till week 12.. then run your hcg as a kickstart to pct. if you stack hcg, hcgenerate and HMG leading to pct you will get a lethal stack to get the LH going

I will do just that before PCT thank you bro!

What do you think about the PCT sugessted by Needto?? I mean the idea of starting the suplements right after the cycle ends sounds more promising then waiting till u fall down and then run serms.
 
^^^ Cali and Steve have nailed it bro...good job guys, as usual! Mad follow this into PCT and you will be golden. I for one will watch over you to see how you come through so keep is in the loop bro!

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You can't compare HCGenerate to real HCg. Period

I really dont think you need to worry about it. It won't Keep you from bouncing back, man. Don't worry so much. Especially since it's your first cycle, and i'm assuming it isn't going to be run that long, you're pct should be fine. If the small balls bother you that much, i would just stay away from roids altogether to be honest. My balls shrink every time, and then POP! back to normal each PCT within a month or so. I've never used HCG or HCGenerate, and that's including 20 weeks - 1 year long cycles. That JUST MHO. :)

PS. *** Not that i condone year long cycles. It was fucking retarded and i wasted it.
 
All the advice here is good. That said. I ran hcgenerate and continue to now throughout my entire cycle. 5 caps Ed. My balls still shrank. Libido still dropped around week 5-6. I don't have marbles but they are not normal size. Hcgenerate will keep you from shutting down completely but i do believe that it needs to be run with real hcg at 250iu ew. Hcg IMO is just not strong enough. Although it is a nessecary supp in all of my cycles. I do believe that it works very well especially when you come off a cycle. I know several guys running tren/ deca/ test/ dbol and the like that run 16wk cycles and pct with only formastanzol and hcgenerate. Honest to god.. However thats not for me. But it must work if they are doing this.
 
Since I incorporated hcgenerate on cycle I barely notice any ball shrinkage at all. I do however alternate every 4 weeks with hcg.

In saying that u are going to notice some shrinkage when using AAS but IMO hcgenerate helps immensely with the degree of shrinkage u will encounter.
 
I really dont think you need to worry about it. It won't Keep you from bouncing back, man. Don't worry so much. Especially since it's your first cycle, and i'm assuming it isn't going to be run that long, you're pct should be fine. If the small balls bother you that much, i would just stay away from roids altogether to be honest. My balls shrink every time, and then POP! back to normal each PCT within a month or so. I've never used HCG or HCGenerate, and that's including 20 weeks - 1 year long cycles. That JUST MHO. :)

PS. *** Not that i condone year long cycles. It was fucking retarded and i wasted it.

How do you recover from a year long cycle? Won't you eventually need TRT? or all of this permanent shutdown is pure bullshit because I hear about people actually deciding to live 20 solid years and fucking vanish after that so they put them selves on self prescribed TRT and after 15 to 20 years they actually recover pretty well they are not steirile down there and everything is just fine...
 
Thanks man I will run HCG at the end. To kick start the testicles harder.. I guess HCgenerate does something but not to that extent that I assumed because I gotta be honest I still have sperm production but my testicles are just so small it's weird..I will do some HCG as for my PCT I don't use any clomid... I will be running Forma/Unleashed post cycle combo/ bridge. Ive been convinced through ntbm posts that natural pct is the way to go. I still find it weird that my balls are so tiny lol

My friend I think you should know that not every single last person is going to react the same way to any product and or drug for that matter. You said your nutts started shrinking from the very start of the cycle which I find odd seeing as test levels never reach high enough to start desensitizing the ledag cells till at least 3 weeks in and beyond...

Even still shrinking nuts is not a 100% indication that your cells are completely desensitized. You do however still have your sex drive, still have mental focus and everything else is in check besides the size of your nutts.

If you go back and re read my thread you will see I advised people to use hcgenerate for 4 weeks then hcg for 4 weeks and go back and forth like this if you plan to use hcg at all which I think is the best of all options. Going back and forth like this prevents any desensitizing from prolonged use of HCG and Hcgenerate.. use something, anything long enough the body will find a way to get used to it/desensitize to it/ reach some level of homeostasis. For this reason I have advised the 4 weeks hcgenerate 4 weeks hcg method as " the best" method. However many other methods have worked for thousands of others. You can use just hcgenerate the last 4-8 weeks or both hcg and hcgenerate or in some kind of combo. IMO the best option is the one I wrote in the all natural pct. Running hcgenerate during or after a cycle is never a bad option though... In the end however if you feel it has been just send back the empty bottle for a refund we care about the members here. They all happen to be close friends of mine now or will be soon if I can help it.
 
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