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HCG post cycle does work. DRJMW please add!

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I want to put the myth of HCG being for mid-cycle only. It is not. In fact, it is very much for post-cycle recovery. See for yourself!
The Study: Two hypogonadal former anabolic steroid users were studied. Normal levels of LH are >3.6 IU/L and Testosterone are 300—1000 ng/dl. Former anabolic steroid users often have suppressed levels of both.

The Results: Subject #1 is a 6', 206lb former user of 500—2000+ grams per week of anabolics. His baseline numbers were: LH<1IU/L, Test=191ng/dl. This suject underwent a 32 day treatment of 2500 IU of HCG every 4 days, 50 mg of clomid 2 times per day, and 10 mg nolvadex per day. 15 days after treatment his numbers were: LH=5.2IU/L, Test=1072 ng/dl.

Subject #2 is a 5'10", 184lb male who used 400 mg per week of nandrolone. His baseline numbers were: LH<1IU/L, Test=45ng/dl. This subject's 32 day treatment consisted of 2500 IU of HCG every 4 days, 50 mg of clomid 2 times per day, and 10 mg nolvadex per day. There was no change. He underwent another treatment consisting of 60 days of 5000 IU of HCG every 4 days for 4 injections, then 2500 IU every 4 days for 4 injections, 50 mg of clomid 2 times per day, and 10 mg nolvadex per day. Still, no change. For the next 32 days, this subject received 5000 IU of HCG every other day for 6 injections, then 2500 IU every other day for 6 injections given with 150 IU of menotropins, 50 mg of clomid 2 times per day, and 10 mg nolvadex 2 times per day. 15 days after treatment his numbers were: LH=9.8IU/L, Test=507 ng/dl.(20)

Comments: The authors of this paper have presented some very interesting data that the medical community needs to learn from. When dealing with former androgen users, there may be better ways to increase Testosterone than the standard patch treatment (which will only prolong the problem of decreased T production.) Hypogonadal former androgen users need a treatment, not a band-aid. If you need to jump start your Testosterone after an androgen cycle, this combination of HCG, Clomid, and Nolvadex may be just what the doctor ordered.
 
Post cycle I do 20,000 iu over 3 weeks about its shelf live kept in the slin pins in the freezer.

its really a kick in the ass to getting test levels and nads back to normal fast..
 
Hey bro the study was done on men that were hypogonadal and shut down for an long long time since stopping steroids so yes HCG would be used to try to hammer the nuts into growth. Their nuts were not responding to natural LH.

The probelm is that when it is used post cycle, with someone that is not likely to have a major recovery problem, then things can change.

You see when a man comes off steroids the sudden shock of HCG use CAN trigger a very rapid reply from the nuts. Natural test production can sky rocket very quickly and then this in itself is suppressive of HPTA.

Bell Lewellyn doesn't like to use HCG DURING a cycle because he believes that it will desensitize the testes to natural LH. This is true if the dose used is high(quite common) and time on is long but it most certainly is NOT true is the dose is kept at 300-500 iu's per day. You could do this dose for weeks with no negative impact.

Bill Roberts has made this perfectly clear in his research.

It makes more sence to prevent testicular atrophy during a cycle than to try to bring the boys back to size at the end of the cycle.

This is why Roberts recommends using HCG during the entire cycle at 250-500iu's per day or 500 every other day. If availablity and money is an issue then one should run it for a couple weeks mid cycle and then again for two weeks at the end and before clomid( ie: during the two weeks that it takes for test cyp to clear)

Sure HCG can work post cycle but it is tricky.

RG:)
 
DangerousGrounds said:
Post cycle I do 20,000 iu over 3 weeks about its shelf live kept in the slin pins in the freezer.

its really a kick in the ass to getting test levels and nads back to normal fast..


Very nice summary my man!
This should help a great deal in reducing the dust cloud around the hcg myth! Karma is a comin´

Ceres.


PS. You were dead on on your winny prognosis.
It is a very poor choice and despite sound precautions my cholesterol profile reached heights formerly unknown to mankind. After 3 Weeks! Piss poor drug if you ask me despite the unique properties it may hold (for some at least).
 
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