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DJLegacy2k1 said:
I think you are missing my stance. I think AAS and ProHormones have their place. Some Prohormones DO work and are good for quick legal bursts in training. If I cant or dont feel the need to look for illegal options, some prohormones will help get going towards goals. There is no need to bash a product or say things like "You are BS for thinking prohormones work...". Especially on a product with pretty good backing in reviews.

Now if I wanna gain 30lbs of muscle of course you need to start looking at a legit AAS cycle. Both Prohormones and AAS are tools in a much larger picture, and there are more than one road you can take to reaching your goals, keeping in mind that different people have different goals.

Bashing products because youre bored doesnt really help the forums in general. If you have first hand knowlege of the supplement in question and want to say that it didnt work, thats fine, but bashing just to bash is not helping anyone.

-Legacy

Fine. I'll make you a deal. I'll buy havoc next month and try it out. WE'll see if it works. Maybe it's just me. Maybe they don't do it for me because I'm used to the AAS. I just never got any results.
 
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I agree that Prohormones will not replace a test/tren cycle, but if you are trying to get a legal boost to your workouts I dont see any problem using some of the prohormones that have decent reviews to try and give you a kick.

I will agree Prohormones can not REPLACE AAS, but I think they have their place if the product is proven and can help in any way, its all goal related.

-Legacy

PS: Also I do agree that if you have been running years of AAS you probably wont FEEL the kick as much as someone who hasnt ran any cycles of AAS or very few. You could be PAST the point of getting results from Prohormones since they are much milder than the big boys, but for people not as experienced in AAS use, I think they can still do some good.
 
the_alcatraz said:
Fine. I'll make you a deal. I'll buy havoc next month and try it out. WE'll see if it works. Maybe it's just me. Maybe they don't do it for me because I'm used to the AAS. I just never got any results.


I am very surprised to see this. Are you gonna run it solo or with test and other gear?
 
Alc..I feel ya man..possibly the reason I noticed a diff or benefit from it is probably due to the fact that it has been almost 8 years since I indulged in the real deal..but in all honestly if you can obtain the real deal and don't have a family or even a career where a felony would be a career ending event to where you would lose years in college and such..id stick with the real thing as there is no comparison..as you might be disappointed in the benefit especially if you have been cycling for the last few years vs the guys that don't have the option for real gear or choose to play it safe and not risk family or career..or have not ever indulged by choice or had an ample opportunity to do so regarding the real deal..just my opinion.. :RADAR

*Yes I realize this is one hell of a runon sentence.. :evil:
 
Max Bench Day

135x10
155x8
185x3
205x1
225x1
240x1
250x1 <--new pr!
255x1 <--new pr!

Bodyweight 166 this morning.

I thought I would do a bit better, but 240 and above felt really heavy. Oh well, 250 was my goal (1.5x bw) and I beat that so I cannot complain. I'm still abit under the weather with the headcold although I think I've turned the corner. Not breathing efficiently as usual though.

I am feeling comfortable with 225 now for reps. Less than a month ago I could barely get one. Placebo effect or not it was worth the 40 bucks to get me through the psychological block that 225 imposed on me...

Tomorrow is max dead day.
 
Max Dead day
135x10
185x8
225x5
275x3
315x1
335x1 <--new pr!
355x1 <--new pr!

I lost my form on that last one and it was very difficult for me so I didn't go any higher. 335 was my goal (2x bw) and I achieved that. I have 9 pills left and work the next three days so I won't be able to lift. I think I will take them to help with recovery and start my pct on Sunday.

PCT will be clomid 50 mgs every other day for 3 weeks. I get bloodwork shortly thereafter.

I did notice a mild breakout on my forehead that looks more like a rash than nodular acne and the only thing I can attribute it to is the havoc. This has been throughout the cycle.

All in all, I am very impressed and would definitely run it again.

Bench increased 30 lbs
Squat increased 40 lbs
Dead increased 70 lbs

All lifts are raw
 
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artificialaspirations said:
I am very surprised to see this. Are you gonna run it solo or with test and other gear?

solo. you have my word. I will make a statement of appology to you on here if it works for me.
 
DJLegacy2k1 said:
Alc,

I dont think anyone is looking for an appology, just more of an open mind, thats all, its all good brotha.

-Legacy

I would love for you guys to prove me wrong. I've tried pro-hormones and was really disappointed. They didnt do shit for me. If havoc works out for me, then great. I'll change my mind. If it doesnt, then it won't be a big surprise for me.
 
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