the_alcatraz said:
you are completely correct sir.
I don't trust in pro-hormones at all, and I'm mostly arguing from that standpoint...not worth the money
No big deal, I understand everyones "issues" with PHs. There are ALOT of scammers out there but I think some people have taken the PH Bashing a little far.
Some companies are making barely legal products from precursors to full blown AAS by simply adding a 17a on the front. Of course these dont last long before being banned but you can find some PHs that DO work. I dont understand how there can be hundred and hundreds of logs and reviews on products by people on forums form people that ARENT working for the companies, yet people will still refuse that the PH being reviewed works.
I just dont understand that while in threads where 5 or 6 people are saying that a PH IS working, people will still show up and say "No they dont work you guys are lieing, its just placebo".
As soon as I started taking Havoc, even with cut cals my lifts starting moving up with little to no fatigue. As I said since Ive been working on a body comp shift I havent worked out the exact numbers because I need an accurate BF% reading since my calipers got cracked.
I agree with the fact that lots of PHs are scams by companies and say they will prduce gains as crazy as muscletech, but there are acuually some decent ones, the problem is, most people that bash PHs dont take the time to realize that some people have found some decent ones.
I in no way care if people dont like PHs for certain reasons, but there is no point to bash PHs just for the sake of bashing them, especially if you havent tried any of them personally.
No biggie, Ive used a couple PHs that SUCKED and did nothing. Then lately I have tried a couple or read about a couple that have been getting real good reviews.
Who knows we'll see.
-Legacy