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MY only complaint is some days I would feel horribly lethatgic and just wanted to sleep or not do anything at all. Sucks when you work a sales job and have no energy to talk to people lol. Workouts have been good, not sure on exact "gains" yet since Im doing a body comp shift and need to remeasure BF%.

-Legacy
 
Wumderbean said:
Does this cause roid rage?

It's called "roid" rage...i.e. you have to be on roids...lol...havoc is a pro-hormone...not sure it works either...it's muscletech :rolleyes:
 
Havoc isnt made by muscletech, and if you are saying it doesnt work, without trying it, doesnt seem like a good way to share information with people. It would probably be best if you shared information with people about products you have accually used, just a thought though.

-Legacy
 
DJLegacy2k1 said:
Havoc isnt made by muscletech, and if you are saying it doesnt work, without trying it, doesnt seem like a good way to share information with people. It would probably be best if you shared information with people about products you have accually used, just a thought though.

-Legacy

you are completely correct sir.
I don't trust in pro-hormones at all, and I'm mostly arguing from that standpoint...not worth the money
 
the_alcatraz said:
you are completely correct sir.
I don't trust in pro-hormones at all, and I'm mostly arguing from that standpoint...not worth the money

Total BS, alc. Bashing a product you've never tried is like me discounting the Anadrol 50 you think so highly of when I've never even touched the stuff...

For 40 bucks I've gained 30 lbs on my deadlift in less than 3 weeks and I'm not even finished yet. My goal is to pull at least 330 which will put me @ 2x bodyweight. Not much compared to actual steroids but it has worked for me.

Some people like myself have too much to lose (legally) by taking chances w/ real gear, but that is my decision at this point in my life.

All this bashing of products people are ignorant about is exactly what is wrong w/ this board. Of course its not gonna have steroid like effects because it is LEGAL. Don't expect too much from it and you won't be let down.
 
the_alcatraz said:
you are completely correct sir.
I don't trust in pro-hormones at all, and I'm mostly arguing from that standpoint...not worth the money

No big deal, I understand everyones "issues" with PHs. There are ALOT of scammers out there but I think some people have taken the PH Bashing a little far.

Some companies are making barely legal products from precursors to full blown AAS by simply adding a 17a on the front. Of course these dont last long before being banned but you can find some PHs that DO work. I dont understand how there can be hundred and hundreds of logs and reviews on products by people on forums form people that ARENT working for the companies, yet people will still refuse that the PH being reviewed works.

I just dont understand that while in threads where 5 or 6 people are saying that a PH IS working, people will still show up and say "No they dont work you guys are lieing, its just placebo".

As soon as I started taking Havoc, even with cut cals my lifts starting moving up with little to no fatigue. As I said since Ive been working on a body comp shift I havent worked out the exact numbers because I need an accurate BF% reading since my calipers got cracked.

I agree with the fact that lots of PHs are scams by companies and say they will prduce gains as crazy as muscletech, but there are acuually some decent ones, the problem is, most people that bash PHs dont take the time to realize that some people have found some decent ones.

I in no way care if people dont like PHs for certain reasons, but there is no point to bash PHs just for the sake of bashing them, especially if you havent tried any of them personally.

No biggie, Ive used a couple PHs that SUCKED and did nothing. Then lately I have tried a couple or read about a couple that have been getting real good reviews.

Who knows we'll see.

-Legacy
 
LMAO at people saying PH are garbage and then they turn around and push OTC products for PCT.

It's almost like me saying Lipoflame, Dermacrine, Unleashed, and AMP02 are all garbarge because they aren't illegal. Give me a break.

Some OTC products work and some don't. I don't think OTC are on par with tried and true AAS but "some" of them still work to a degree.

It's ignorant to bash products that you have never tried.

I have used Epistane and I thought it sucked. No gains and I was just tired and sick all of the time. At least I can speak from experience.

Dermacrine does what it says it does and I love it. Great OTC product.
 
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