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a lot of you know i work with mentally ill people. i have a resource/support center i run. i had a staff member from one of the group homes introduce a new patient from their home, and when i look up, i see this kid that i used to bully from high school. bully is being used lightly. i pretty much abused this guy, took his lunches, embarrassed him at every turn, hit, trip, call names, etc. i remember challenging him to do 20 push ups at a party and he struggled the whole way and on his 20 rep, on the way up, i stepped on his back and spilled a beer on him.
so yeah, i was a bastard....and now seeing him made me feel like shit. knowing that he lost it and that i was part of it. you can say whatever you want, about how kids forget things, well, bullshit. if i can remember doing this stuff to him... kids that were bullied have memories of being bullied.
it was hard to approach him, i was fucking nervous. but he came into my office and introduced himself and then apologized for not doing it sooner. i told him that i knew who he was and that we went to HS together. he said he couldn't remember, then i started asking him about certain people and events and parties and stuff. he started to remember a lot of stuff. but then he looks at me and says: "I'm sorry i don't remember you HT." i felt like throwing up. still do. he tells me "I can't remember things because of (insert large #) ECT's." karma is a bitch.
 
Oh, that is sad. Perhaps he really doesn't remember you? If so, I guess that is a blessing not to remember some bad memories.

I think you have made up for the bad karma of being a bully by working with the mentally ill, for certain.

You know, the more that I get to know you, the more likable you seem. I knew you were funny but didn't really know that you had such a sensitive side.

Oh, but you still smell bad. hehehe.
 
heatherrae said:
Oh, that is sad. Perhaps he really doesn't remember you? If so, I guess that is a blessing not to remember some bad memories.

I think you have made up for the bad karma of being a bully by working with the mentally ill, for certain.

You know, the more that I get to know you, the more likable you seem. I knew you were funny but didn't really know that you had such a sensitive side.

Oh, but you still smell bad. hehehe.
i smell like vagina right now. but Jesus Christ in Heaven, if he didn't just come up to me and tell me he just vomitted up blood! and i make 2 calls, to staff and emergency #'s and no answer! this is where i lose my temper with people. do you know how hard it is to keep someone calm when they just puked blood? i'm really still a bastard, btw. but thanks for smelling me.
 
smelling you??? or talking to you???

HT...All you can do is tell someone that you are soo sorry you treated them bad. That is itself can make a huge difference. Just that you felt bad shows me that you are a good person.....Make amends and be his friend now.....okay go call 911
 
Yep, puking blood = 911 in my book.

and

You're welcome. I'll keep your BO in check.
 
Gymgurl said:
smelling you??? or talking to you???

HT...All you can do is tell someone that you are soo sorry you treated them bad. That is itself can make a huge difference. Just that you felt bad shows me that you are a good person.....Make amends and be his friend now.....okay go call 911
he's more concerned about the staff being upset with him and him losing his bed at that home. but i've seen this behavior before, he could just be utterly defeated, at heart. and sometimes, these guys will use thses tactics to feel you out. the next thing you know, they're calling you every name in the book and throwing shit at you......
 
I was one of those fucks who got bullied
to an extent,I fought back eventually
kicked this one prima donna punks ass in the locker room in front of the whole soccer team
I was a year older
he later went to college where I went
by then I had lost 60lbs and had been lifting
so I was sort of a BMOC at a campus with less than 1400 students
he wasn't shit at college
I left him alone
 
4everhung said:
I was one of those fucks who got bullied
to an extent,I fought back eventually
kicked this one prima donna punks ass in the locker room in front of the whole soccer team
I was a year older
he later went to college where I went
by then I had lost 60lbs and had been lifting
so I was sort of a BMOC at a campus with less than 1400 students
he wasn't shit at college
I left him alone
I was usually the kid who stuck up for the other kids getting bullied, because I was very popular.

Then, I had to go to three different HS's and actually switched schools in the middle of my Senior year. I had a bully who was this HUGE girl. She bullied me because I was sort of known as the smartest kid in class. I beat the shit out of her in the middle of English class one day. Increased my rep immensely...lol. She had no idea that the little 5'3" cheerleader was so scrappy. hehehe.
 
heatherrae said:
I was usually the kid who stuck up for the other kids getting bullied, because I was very popular.

Then, I had to go to three different HS's and actually switched schools in the middle of my Senior year. I had a bully who was this HUGE girl. She bullied me because I was sort of known as the smartest kid in class. I beat the shit out of her in the middle of English class one day. Increased my rep immensely...lol. She had no idea that the little 5'3" cheerleader was so scrappy. hehehe.
I got moved into a very affluent high school down south for 9th grade
I was from the north
I didn't even know wtf auburn was
 
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I was a bit of a bully in Jr. high... There was this one chick that tried to bullie me in grade school, I didn't do anything at that time but it stuck with me, She move on to hs and I was in 6th grade... the next year, her in 8th me in 7th and I gave it back to her 3fold... along with another chick that I bullied constantly. I can't even remember why I didn't like the girl actually... I'm sure there was some reason. We have since met up we talk.

My 9th grade year I'd come to a pt where I wasn't a bully but didn't take shit from anyone. Two schools combined into one school lots of different faces and lots of clashes. That was the year I believe I stayed in the most trouble.

Then my sophomore First day of PE and this chick on the side of me decides she's gonna continue to nudge me, she was a jr... well, didn't expect lil ol' me to just turn around and pop the shit out of her. From then on out, I never had a problem with her or anyone thru out my sr. year.
 
4everhung said:
I got moved into a very affluent high school down south for 9th grade
I was from the north
I didn't even know wtf auburn was
Oh, being a yankee moving to the south can be dangerous. ;-)
 
a few years back when I bartended in cincinnati four of us bartenders dressed as Alex's crew for halloween
 
KillahBee said:
I don't know, I think you are using this oppty to assign some form of self importance onto yourself.
i stand out. no matter where i am. or who's next to me. :)
 
Apologize. It will make you feel like a very huge weight was just taken off your shoulders. You are a pretty good guy with a big heart hiding behind a tough guy mask that is my take on you so far.
 
so much repressed memories...............
 
guys a vet, too. served in the Gulf. now, i'm gonna go down to the church and pick up some food for tonight dinner. Dinosaur shaped pasta w/hot dog slices! woo-hoo!
 
Gymgurl said:
Do I need to feed you??
no. that's what's being served at the Friday night dinner at the South facility. most of the people down there are on their own or homeless.
 
so, in theory, could i have just been Pwned by this chap, seeing as how i just cleaned his vomit up?
 
I have NEVER bullied anyone... ever, nor has the thought crossed my mind.

I was beat up, picked on and teased relentlessly throughout most of my childhood then onto adolescence. First it was by all the black/hispanic kids coming up because I was one of the only white kids in school, then it was by all the rich white kids in high school because i was poor, protestant and didnt look white enough even though I was pure European.

I have been fucked over the hardest in this life by those that were most "like me" and helped out when I was homeless (because I trusted those "most like me") by those who were NOTHING like me and could have snapped me like a twig.

What did I learn from these experiences? Hatred and violence only begets more hatred and violence. That and not to judge a person by their exterior, but by the content of their character alone. And finally, that family is not determined by blood alone.

What I believe about you is wholely irrelevant to your existance, is it not? So I will just keep my opinion to myself.

Karma is a bitch though... ain't it.
 
CO B-man said:
Apologize. It will make you feel like a very huge weight was just taken off your shoulders. You are a pretty good guy with a big heart hiding behind a tough guy mask that is my take on you so far.
hey thanks. i did, although it came out half assed.
 
HumanTarget said:
a lot of you know i work with mentally ill people. i have a resource/support center i run. i had a staff member from one of the group homes introduce a new patient from their home, and when i look up, i see this kid that i used to bully from high school. bully is being used lightly. i pretty much abused this guy, took his lunches, embarrassed him at every turn, hit, trip, call names, etc. i remember challenging him to do 20 push ups at a party and he struggled the whole way and on his 20 rep, on the way up, i stepped on his back and spilled a beer on him.
so yeah, i was a bastard....and now seeing him made me feel like shit. knowing that he lost it and that i was part of it. you can say whatever you want, about how kids forget things, well, bullshit. if i can remember doing this stuff to him... kids that were bullied have memories of being bullied.
it was hard to approach him, i was fucking nervous. but he came into my office and introduced himself and then apologized for not doing it sooner. i told him that i knew who he was and that we went to HS together. he said he couldn't remember, then i started asking him about certain people and events and parties and stuff. he started to remember a lot of stuff. but then he looks at me and says: "I'm sorry i don't remember you HT." i felt like throwing up. still do. he tells me "I can't remember things because of (insert large #) ECT's." karma is a bitch.
no offense but if u want sympathy for how bad u feel after helping fuck up a dudes life, ur not gunna get it, in fact ur a jackass.


but so mentally ill like loony bin? like just generally crazed, or like mental retardation type stuff
 
you're not even close to being even.


...
The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep.

-RF
 
SublimeZM said:
no offense but if u want sympathy for how bad u feel after helping fuck up a dudes life, ur not gunna get it, in fact ur a jackass.


but so mentally ill like loony bin? like just generally crazed, or like mental retardation type stuff
man i missed you, even though you're a complete dumbass not knowing the difference between a loon and a retard.
 
jackangel said:
you're not even close to being even.


...
The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep.

-RF

Even?

How can ANYONE even begin to "make up" to another human being for crushing that person's humanity?!

I have to go out now... this thread is turning my stomach.
 
BIKINIMOM said:
Even?

How can ANYONE even begin to "make up" to another human being for crushing that person's humanity?!

I have to go out now... this thread is turning my stomach.
never doubt that i would fucking snatch whatever dignity and or self respect you have remaining, right out of your chest, dip it in my coffee and make yummy sounds as i devoured it.
 
HumanTarget said:
never doubt that i would fucking snatch whatever dignity and or self respect you have remaining, right out of your chest, dip it in my coffee and make yummy sounds as i devoured it.

Baby - scum like you affects me not. Not now and not ever. The fact that you revel in the suffering of others TO THIS DAY is proof positive that you are and always will be void of a consciense.

YOU are the one that began this thread so we could all feel sorry for you, remember?

Feel sorry for you? For what? The fact that you STILL like to rub salt in the wounds of others but you feel badly for when you did it in the past?

Puh-lease
 
Gymgurl said:
sorry BM it ws not

You need not apologize as I didnt take offense to your comments, even if it was directed at me. I know that you dont spew forth hatred on a regular basis. We are very cool. :)
 
BIKINIMOM said:
Even?

How can ANYONE even begin to "make up" to another human being for crushing that person's humanity?!

I have to go out now... this thread is turning my stomach.


I believe a thread back when the 15yr old molested two children you stated

and I will quote

BIKINIMOM said:
Believe it or not a child that young isnt fully aware of the longterm rammifications of their choices. A lesson that I have had to learn the hard way with my own children.

I can not see either thread is different besides the actual course of action, and If I had to chose of either I'd choose being bullied. Thats just My opinion.
 
Frisky said:
I believe a thread back when the 15yr old molested two children you stated

and I will quote



I can not see either thread is different besides the actual course of action, and If I had to chose of either I'd choose being bullied. Thats just My opinion.


Because HT AS AN ADULT continues to bully and revel in the pain of others... TO THIS DAY.

That is the difference.

Odd though, how you, one of the women that he has trashed RELENTLESSLY are the one that is the first to come to his defense.

SPEAKS VOLUMES ABOUT YOUR CHARACTER GURL!!! :heart:

PS - when I referenced the lesson I learned about my own children I am specifically talking about my 14 yr old daughter. Due in part to her lies, she and three sisters have now been kept from me for the better part of 3 years... But she is a child and does NOT understand the rammifications of her behavior. She is selfish and only wants what she wants when she wants it. At her father's she runs the show is now smoking pot, smoking AND running the streets with boys and now I can do nothing to parent her OR her younger sisters. But one day she will mature and realize how her selfishness hurt not only her, but her sisters as well.

You have no idea how hard it was for me to accept and understand this. But it's ok for this is the greatest lesson in forgiveness that I MUST learn. I just pray to God that none of my children will either die or have their lives FOREVER affected to the point where WE can not rectify it.

STILL LAUGHING NOW HT?

Yea.... that's some funny shit right there.... aint it?
 
HumanTarget said:
man i missed you, even though you're a complete dumbass not knowing the difference between a loon and a retard.
im asking what your facility is for.

is it for retarded people, or for just crazies or both.

and after this thread i wouldnt put it past u that u stepped on his head and "accidentally" gave him brain damage or something
 
SublimeZM said:
im asking what your facility is for.

is it for retarded people, or for just crazies or both.

and after this thread i wouldnt put it past u that u stepped on his head and "accidentally" gave him brain damage or something

He wouldnt do that. He is sorry for being part of what fucked this kid up.

He is busy now trying to fuck with OTHER peeps.

Too bad for him that there are those of us who feel sorry for his pain. See, there are those of us that realize that his anger that is directed outward is only anger at HIMSELF and has ZERO to do with us at all.

Yea well.... instead of focusing that anger anywhere try to find a way to turn it into another emotion... you know, one that might actually help YOU to be a happier person that doesnt feel the need to revel in the suffering of others?

But WTF do I know, pole-dancing old whore that I am. Shit, a Middlesex County family court judge took my kids from me time and time again because I am such a poor influence. (Actually I am assuming this as there was NEVER an "official reason". He did it because HE CAN.) How THE FUCK can anything I say possibly be of any value to anyone?.... right?
 
BIKINIMOM said:
He wouldnt do that. He is sorry for being part of what fucked this kid up.

He is busy now trying to fuck with OTHER peeps.

Too bad for him that there are those of us who feel sorry for his pain. See, there are those of us that realize that his anger that is directed outward is only anger at HIMSELF and has ZERO to do with us at all.

Yea well.... instead of focusing that anger anywhere try to find a way to turn it into another emotion... you know, one that might actually help YOU to be a happier person that doesnt feel the need to revel in the suffering of others?

But WTF do I know, pole-dancing old whore that I am. Shit, a Middlesex County family court judge took my kids from me time and time again because I am such a poor influence. (Actually I am assuming this as there was NEVER an "official reason". He did it because HE CAN.) How THE FUCK can anything I say possibly be of any value to anyone?.... right?
i agree 100% with all aspects of this post
 
BIKINIMOM said:
Because HT AS AN ADULT continues to bully and revel in the pain of others... TO THIS DAY.

That is the difference.

Odd though, how you, one of the women that he has trashed RELENTLESSLY are the one that is the first to come to his defense.

SPEAKS VOLUMES ABOUT YOUR CHARACTER GURL!!! :heart:

PS - when I referenced the lesson I learned about my own children I am specifically talking about my 14 yr old daughter. Due in part to her lies, she and three sisters have now been kept from me for the better part of 3 years... But she is a child and does NOT understand the rammifications of her behavior. She is selfish and only wants what she wants when she wants it. At her father's she runs the show is now smoking pot, smoking AND running the streets with boys and now I can do nothing to parent her OR her younger sisters. But one day she will mature and realize how her selfishness hurt not only her, but her sisters as well.

You have no idea how hard it was for me to accept and understand this. But it's ok for this is the greatest lesson in forgiveness that I MUST learn. I just pray to God that none of my children will either die or have their lives FOREVER affected to the point where WE can not rectify it.

STILL LAUGHING NOW HT?

Yea.... that's some funny shit right there.... aint it?

I don't take him seriously. I know he's not that cold hearted of a person, to actually be in the field he's in shows me that he has a heart... not everyone is cut out to deal with mentally ill patients.

Maybe some people here do take him serious, I don't know... but I believe that anyone that will allow some stranger over the internet to effect their lives in any way shape or form should not have access to the internet. You have gone thru some shit here alot... and you still stand strong and don't let a mofo here pull you down! :heart:

I have talked to you about your daughters, and (i didn't mean a thing by the reference... Just caught it in the quote) I feel for what it is you are going thru. But she someday will mature and look back at the foolishness of her actions and also wonder WTF was I thinking. I am sorry about your daughter BM, its hard as a parent to have to stand by and watch a beautiful life go down stream. But I am sure, if she has a heart like her mom, she will bounce back... Stronger than ever!
 
HT is making amends
let the first person step forward who doesn't have any to make
 
Frisky said:
I don't take him seriously. I know he's not that cold hearted of a person, to actually be in the field he's in shows me that he has a heart... not everyone is cut out to deal with mentally ill patients.

Maybe some people here do take him serious, I don't know... but I believe that anyone that will allow some stranger over the internet to effect their lives in any way shape or form should not have access to the internet. You have gone thru some shit here alot... and you still stand strong and don't let a mofo here pull you down! :heart:

I have talked to you about your daughters, and (i didn't mean a thing by the reference... Just caught it in the quote) I feel for what it is you are going thru. But she someday will mature and look back at the foolishness of her actions and also wonder WTF was I thinking. I am sorry about your daughter BM, its hard as a parent to have to stand by and watch a beautiful life go down stream. But I am sure, if she has a heart like her mom, she will bounce back... Stronger than ever!

She is my oldest child. My heart bleeds daily as I can do NOTHING but stand by and watch her flush her beautiful young life down the drain. I even went to the police to ask for help and they said there is nothing they can do because of the confidentiality laws! The shrink fucking confirmed her use!!! Her father doesnt have a fucking clue nor does he give a shit.

My younger three are trapped in hell because of this and there is NOTHING I CAN DO UNTIL THEY ARE 14!!!

So I sit and I wait and I pray.

All of my children are amazing gifts. And I can do nothing more than move on and secure a life for us so that when they can finally be with me - I will give them THE WORLD.
 
4everhung said:
HT is making amends
let the first person step forward who doesn't have any to make

This piece of shit who posted this thread mocked me and said that he is now going to put up a piece of artwork that one of his clients made for him while I can neither see nor touch my own children.

Yea... he is REAL SORRY for being a bully when he was a kid.

Motherfucker is STILL a bully.

puh-lease spare me.
 
I can honestly say that there are many people I owe amends to...It is the great step to take and for him to admitt that he feels bad and to say he is sorry is a huge thing that most people would not have the balls to do if faced with it.....
 
Gymgurl said:
I can honestly say that there are many people I owe amends to...It is the great step to take and for him to admitt that he feels bad and to say he is sorry is a huge thing that most people would not have the balls to do if faced with it.....

He is full of shit as he continues the behavior in his adult life.

Sorry if I am not as moved as some of the other board members.
 
4everhung said:
the internet isn't real life
remember?

Baby, nobody knows this better than me.

Funny though how women like me and Frisky conduct ourselves in an honorable fashion whether it is real time or web. And before the next computer fires up we will be tired old cocksucking whores.... once again.

What some of you seem forget is that there are those of us who believe that the pen is mightier than the sword. Maybe that is just OUR stupidity, eh?
 
Gymgurl said:
You don't have to be BM...you guys have your issues....

Agreed and I am so irritated with MYSELF for letting this crap upset me.

I really do need to get the fuck out of here as I am making MYSELF sick to my stomach.

I apologize for all the venom. It isn't about HT at all.... He is nothing and no one just another bully whether real life or interent.

This is about me and my anger at myself because I can not defend or mother my children. HT only mocked me for this. I CHOSE to get upset over it. MY BAD COMPLETELY.

See - all anger that we direct outward is not about the other party but about the way we feel about ourselves.
 
BIKINIMOM said:
Baby, nobody knows this better than me.

Funny though how women like me and Frisky conduct ourselves in an honorable fashion whether it is real time or web. And before the next computer fires up we will be tired old cocksucking whores.... once again.

What some of you seem forget is that there are those of us who believe that the pen is mightier than the sword. Maybe that is just OUR stupidity, eh?
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BIKINIMOM said:
She is my oldest child. My heart bleeds daily as I can do NOTHING but stand by and watch her flush her beautiful young life down the drain. I even went to the police to ask for help and they said there is nothing they can do because of the confidentiality laws! The shrink fucking confirmed her use!!! Her father doesnt have a fucking clue nor does he give a shit.

My younger three are trapped in hell because of this and there is NOTHING I CAN DO UNTIL THEY ARE 14!!!

So I sit and I wait and I pray.

All of my children are amazing gifts. And I can do nothing more than move on and secure a life for us so that when they can finally be with me - I will give them THE WORLD.
her use?
 
we are all pieces of shit when it comes down to it. anyone who thinks they are completely innocent are the biggest, smelliest pieces
 
HumanTarget said:
a lot of you know i work with mentally ill people. i have a resource/support center i run. i had a staff member from one of the group homes introduce a new patient from their home, and when i look up, i see this kid that i used to bully from high school. bully is being used lightly. i pretty much abused this guy, took his lunches, embarrassed him at every turn, hit, trip, call names, etc. i remember challenging him to do 20 push ups at a party and he struggled the whole way and on his 20 rep, on the way up, i stepped on his back and spilled a beer on him.
so yeah, i was a bastard....and now seeing him made me feel like shit. knowing that he lost it and that i was part of it. you can say whatever you want, about how kids forget things, well, bullshit. if i can remember doing this stuff to him... kids that were bullied have memories of being bullied.
it was hard to approach him, i was fucking nervous. but he came into my office and introduced himself and then apologized for not doing it sooner. i told him that i knew who he was and that we went to HS together. he said he couldn't remember, then i started asking him about certain people and events and parties and stuff. he started to remember a lot of stuff. but then he looks at me and says: "I'm sorry i don't remember you HT." i felt like throwing up. still do. he tells me "I can't remember things because of (insert large #) ECT's." karma is a bitch.



Was he at all mentally ill back when you were a big meanie to him? If he was, then you're obviously not the reason why he's here. If he wasn't, well perhaps he's just a weak individual. Maybe he didn't have access to drugs when it could've prevented his present status. Who knows....blaming yourself is pointless, since you've obviously been given the chance by God/karma/etc to right your wrongs to him. Consider yourself whatever you want. :)
 
I kind of teased a guy on the wrestling team. He was a big goofy kid that sometimes complained and didn't put out. I used to get on him in class, at practice, wherever. I remember he got real upset one time and set up a meeting.

Well, a few years later I found out the kid hung himself at college. I doubt it was because of me, because we actually became kind of cool with each other as I grew more mature, but I can't help but think sometimes that maybe something I did had something to do with it. There is nothing you can do to change the past but you have to just make better for the future.
 
one of my main tormenters in high school(he put a cigarette out in my face in a busload of kids)
got run over and killed by an ice cream truck before his 18th birthday
 
BIKINIMOM said:
This piece of shit who posted this thread mocked me and said that he is now going to put up a piece of artwork that one of his clients made for him while I can neither see nor touch my own children.

Yea... he is REAL SORRY for being a bully when he was a kid.

Motherfucker is STILL a bully.

puh-lease spare me.


How is "still a bully" derived from helping/serving the mentally ill?
 
4everhung said:
one of my main tormenters in high school(he put a cigarette out in my face in a busload of kids)
got run over and killed by an ice cream truck before his 18th birthday


That would've actually been kinda funny to see.
 
You were a dickhead, highschool or not. Glad you realize the consequences of that now.
 
superdave said:
You were a dickhead, highschool or not. Glad you realize the consequences of that now.
when I went to my high school 20 year reunion I got very favorable feedback
it's sort of about how you handle yourself
kids are cruel
 
A little OT, but that's why I'm "cool" with everybody I meet and everybody I know. Because they too may have been through rough times and need someone to be nice to them. There's no time to find out why where how, just be cool to them and if they really needed it,, then it's awesome and they appreciate it privately more than you think.


You may be inside someone's head but THEY are thinking 24/7.
 
4everhung said:
one of my main tormenters in high school(he put a cigarette out in my face in a busload of kids)
got run over and killed by an ice cream truck before his 18th birthday

Lemme guess, you had a summer job driving an ice cream truck?
 
BIKINIMOM said:
scroll back and read.

Which one? There are so many ;)

If you are referring to bullying here on Elite, then that's certainly not the same as bullying kids or anyone else who lacks the mental/emotional fortitude with which to defend themselves. If HT is chalked up as being a "bully" on an internet chatboard, then we as human beings are really in trouble.
 
Billion dollar baby
Rubber little lady, slicker than a weasel
Grimy as an alley
Loves me like no other lover
Billion dollar baby
Rubber little monster, baby, I adore you
Man or woman living couldnt love me like you, baby
We go dancing nighty in the attic
While the moon is rising in the sky
If Im too rough, tell me
Im so scared your little head will come off in my hands
I got you in the dimestore
No other little girl could everhold you
Any tighter, any tighter than me, bay
Billion dollar baby
Reckless like a gambler , million dollar maybe
Foaming like a dog thats been infected by the rabies
We go dancing nighty in the attic
While the moon is rising the sky
If Im too rough , tell me
Im so scared your little head will come off in my hands
 
hanselthecaretaker said:
Which one? There are so many ;)

If you are referring to bullying here on Elite, then that's certainly not the same as bullying kids or anyone else who lacks the mental/emotional fortitude with which to defend themselves. If HT is chalked up as being a "bully" on an internet chatboard, then we as human beings are really in trouble.

I dont know about you but there are a few of us left who still post up with integrity.

This man who is beginning a thread asking us to feel sorry for HIM for past sins, mocked a mother who has had her children wrongfully taken and kept from her NOW.

Sorry... but as he asks for my pity in real time for past sins, I can not give it as he continues to sin. He can continue to ask for his maker's mercy as he has not asked for MY forgiveness.

My life is no more or less affected by his past transgressions as they are by his "newfound consciense".

I have NEVER harmed a fly either here or in realtime. If I have, I made public and private apologies as I am not without sin. Where is this asshole's apology to ME and my children?
 
BIKINIMOM said:
I dont know about you but there are a few of us left who still post up with integrity.

This man who is beginning a thread asking us to feel sorry for HIM for past sins, mocked a mother who has had her children wrongfully taken and kept from her NOW.

Sorry... but as he asks for my pity in real time for past sins, I can not give it as he continues to sin. He can continue to ask for his maker's mercy as he has not asked for MY forgiveness.

My life is no more or less affected by his past transgressions as they are by his "newfound consciense".

I have NEVER harmed a fly either here or in realtime. If I have, I made public and private apologies as I am not without sin. Where is this asshole's apology to ME and my children?
i'm not asking for anything. really i'm not. i'm sorry if the things i said to you before were so hurtful that they're with you to this day. if you saw what my life consisted of, you'd see that things are the way they're supposed to be. when someone wants to change.
 
HumanTarget said:
i'm not asking for anything. really i'm not. i'm sorry if the things i said to you before were so hurtful that they're with you to this day. if you saw what my life consisted of, you'd see that things are the way they're supposed to be. when someone wants to change.

Is that your excuse for an apology?

Fuck you.

I grew up in an equally abusive home. I have NEVER abused anyone. You dare to post that shit up and think that it will make it "ok"?

Fuck you.

I dont want your pity or your sympathy. YOU are not responsible for whom I chose to father my children. But coming from whence you did, I thought you might understand how a life of abuse would have lead me to make the choices I made as a foolish young child, ESPECIALLY given your background and chosen profession.

BUT ......

YOU MOCKED ME.

MY CHILDREN SUFFER.

... I was honest and you expect me to feel sorry for you?

I am drunk right now.... but fuck you.
 
BIKINIMOM said:
Is that your excuse for an apology?

Fuck you.

I grew up in an equally abusive home. I have NEVER abused anyone. You dare to post that shit up and think that it will make it "ok"?

Fuck you.

I dont want your pity or your sympathy. YOU are not responsible for whom I chose to father my children. But coming from whence you did, I thought you might understand how a life of abuse would have lead me to make the choices I made as a foolish young child.

YOU MOCKED ME.

MY CHILDREN SUFFER.

... I was honest and you expect me to feel sorry for you?

I am drunk right now.... but fuck you.
this could make for some good chat. so tell me, you never felt the urge to prey upon someone? well, i'm sorry, but i did. and have. in the animal kingdom, they have rogue animals, like wolves and hyenas and the like, that go around and murder the old and weak and sick. it's a neccessity. people die so others can live. and that's what i chose. to survive. i actually think that i can smell out certain people like that. ones that are close. not everyone can live. and i found that out at a young age. and fuck all if i wasn't going down tooth, fang and claw..... :chomp:
 
HumanTarget said:
this could make for some good chat. so tell me, you never felt the urge to prey upon someone? well, i'm sorry, but i did. and have. in the animal kingdom, they have rogue animals, like wolves and hyenas and the like, that go around and murder the old and weak and sick. it's a neccessity. people die so others can live. and that's what i chose. to survive. i actually think that i can smell out certain people like that. ones that are close. not everyone can live. and i found that out at a young age. and fuck all if i wasn't going down tooth, fang and claw..... :chomp:

Yea... you are REAL sorry for your past.

You are a hypocrite.

FUCK YOU.

I can HONESTLY SAY that I have never ever EVER felt that urge. NEVER have I hurt anyone.

I choose to smile and give others hope that NOT EVERYONE is on this planet to fuck you.

Call me weak.

Call me crazy.

Call me dumb.

It is all good you pathetic mother fucker because MY CONSCIENSE IS CLEAR and I need forgiveness from NO ONE.

FUCK YOU and your FAKE ASSED "SORRY" story.
 
BIKINIMOM said:
Yea... you are REAL sorry for your past.

You are a hypocrite.

FUCK YOU.

I can HONESTLY SAY that I have never ever EVER felt that urge. NEVER have I hurt anyone.

I choose to smile and give others hope that NOT EVERYONE is on this planet to fuck you.

Call me weak.

Call me crazy.

Call me dumb.

It is all good you pathetic mother fucker because MY CONSCIENSE IS CLEAR and I need forgiveness from NO ONE.

FUCK YOU and your FAKE ASSED "SORRY" story.
we're all hypocrites, Darlin'. we all suffer under others standards. i don't wanna call you names, i was just hoping to make you understand. not everything is what it seems.
 
HumanTarget said:
we're all hypocrites, Darlin'. we all suffer under others standards. i don't wanna call you names, i was just hoping to make you understand. not everything is what it seems.

No baby, that is YOUR version of reality.

I am no hypocrite.

You cant make me understand fuckall because you are a fake. You ask our sympathy for what you did to this kid years ago when you continue your mean-spiritedness today?

I hope that someday someone takes from you a fraction what was taken from my children and then tell me how sorry you are for having been a total ASSHOLE.

Till then, you will get ZERO sympathy from me.

You mocked a mother who has had her children taken from her when she never EVER hurt you or anyone you knew. She shared with her children's father when even the law recognized he was an asshole. But she yielded because of a life of abuse. She didn't realize that she was fucking her children for doing "the right thing" by sharing them with their father.

Forgive me if I could give a shit about YOUR consciense.

You are an asshole pure and simple.
 
BIKINIMOM said:
No baby, that is YOUR version of reality.

I am no hypocrite.

You cant make me understand fuckall because you are a fake. You ask our sympathy for what you did to this kid years ago when you continue your mean-spiritedness today?

I hope that someday someone takes from you a fraction what was taken from my children and then tell me how sorry you are for having been a total ASSHOLE.

Till then, you will get ZERO sympathy from me.

You mocked a mother who has had her children taken from her when she never EVER hurt you or anyone you knew. She shared with her children's father when even the law recognized he was an asshole. But she yielded because of a life of abuse. She didn't realize that she was fucking her children for doing "the right thing" by sharing them with their father.

Forgive me if I could give a shit about YOUR consciense.

You are an asshole pure and simple.
loss is a relative concept. we've all lost something dear. you choose to make it worse by diverting your energy towards some "asshole" on a chat board. i'm not that bad. you'd like me if you met me. :)
 
HumanTarget said:
loss is a relative concept. we've all lost something dear. you choose to make it worse by diverting your energy towards some "asshole" on a chat board. i'm not that bad. you'd like me if you met me. :)

"loss" is relative? FUCK YOU.

Baby there is no energy diverted. I am only here because I am bored.

And no, I could never find someone like you "likeable". People like YOU make my stomach turn.

You have no consciense. You have no morals or scruples. Every now and then you might find a "twinge" of guilt, but it doesnt last very long as you use it to stroke your fucking ego.

Sorry, but you will have to go somewhere else to quell that need as I aint buying. I will let the rest of the board who have not exposed their soft underbelies to you stroke it as they have not yet given you the opportunity to show them what you are truly made of.

I have been often chastised for exposing my greatest human weaknesses to all. It has been said to me, "Dont cry to us when the sharks eat you live for exposing your weaknesses."

I said it then as I will say it now, "If only ONE PERSON is helped by hearing my story and they feel they are not alone then it will have been worth it to me as I will have helped them.... I can take the wrath of the masses as I am strong to help those that are weak."

Can you say the same?

You dont fool me.

It is all a show so you can have your incredible ego stroked.


Whatever.....

I am not your judge.

I am NO ONE... just an old tired poledancing whore who was not a good enough mother to maintain custody of her children.

fuck you. I have no pity or compassion for you as you only present this story to ease your pathetic guilty consciense.

I have news for you: YOU SHOULD FEEL TREMENDOUS GUILT AND SHAME.
 
BIKINIMOM said:
"loss" is relative? FUCK YOU.

Baby there is no energy diverted. I am only here because I am bored.

And no, I could never find someone like you "likeable". People like YOU make my stomach turn.

You have no consciense. You have no morals or scruples. Every now and then you might find a "twinge" of guilt, but it doesnt last very long as you use it to stroke your fucking ego.

Sorry, but you will have to go somewhere else to quell that need as I aint buying. I will let the rest of the board who have not exposed their soft underbelies to you stroke it as they have not yet given you the opportunity to show them what you are truly made of.

I have been often chastised for exposing my greatest human weaknesses to all. It has been said to me, "Dont cry to us when the sharks eat you live for exposing your weaknesses."

I said it then as I will say it now, "If only ONE PERSON is helped by hearing my story and they feel they are not alone then it will have been worth it to me as I will have helped them.... I can take the wrath of the masses as I am strong to help those that are weak."

Can you say the same?

You dont fool me.

It is all a show so you can have your incredible ego stroked.


Whatever.....

I am not your judge.

I am NO ONE... just an old tired poledancing whore who was not a good enough mother to maintain custody of her children.

fuck you. I have no pity or compassion for you as you only present this story to ease your pathetic guilty consciense.

I have news for you: YOU SHOULD FEEL TREMENDOUS GUILT AND SHAME.
do not fear. i do. but, i can either wallow in it, or, do something about it. but i can see where you would be angry over this, as what you stated above is actually happening for me when i post my life's errors. men are much more influential than women. i truly wish your guilt would fade. you deserve better. everyone does.
 
"I Was Wrong"

Oh, when I was young
I was so full of fear
I hid behind anger, held back the tears
It was me against the world
I was sure that I'd win
But the world fought back, punished me for my sins
I felt so alone
So insecure
I blamed you instead, made sure I was heard
And they tried to warn me
Of my evil ways
But I wouldn't hear what they had to say
I was wrong
Self destruction's got me again
I was wrong
I realize now that I was wrong

And I think about my loves
Well, I've had a few
Well, I'm sorry that I hurt them
Did I hurt you too?
I took what I wanted
Put my heart on the shelf
But how can you love me when you don't love yourself?
It was me against the world
I was sure that I'd win
The world fought back, punished me for my sins
And they tried to warn me
Of my evil ways
But I couldn't hear what they had to say

I was wrong
Self destruction's got me again
I was wrong
I realize now that I was wrong
I was wrong, yeah
I was wrong

I grew up fast
And I grew up hard
Something was wrong from the very start
I was fighting everybody
I was fighting everything
But the only one that I hurt was me
I got society's blood running down my face
Somebody help me get outta this place
How could someone's bad luck last so long?
Until I realized that I was wrong

I was wrong
Self destruction's got me again
I was wrong
I realize now that I was wrong
I was wrong
Self destruction's got me again
I was wrong
The only moment that I was me
I was wrong
 
At last we meet again, dear God
Hear the angels sing
The funerals are nicer when we know you're there
When the angels sing
Sometimes
I try so hard
To understand
The things you do
I like to question you
When it all comes down
Hear the angels sing
Stand up strong
Feel the pain
When the angels sing
Love
And death
Don't mean a thing
Till the angels sing

The prisoners pray when they're on to death row
When the angels sing
The junky
Cries for love but it's all run out
When the angels sing
The sins
Of the world
And it's cold on the streets
And you're all alone
And the tears
They start to fall
When it all comes down
Hear the angels sing

Stand up strong
Feel the pain
When the angels sing
Love
And death
Don't mean a thing
Till the angels sing
Little
By little
Day by day
I watch the children play
Cause life
And death
Don't mean a thing
Till the angels sing

When the angel of death comes to looking for me
Hear the angels sing
I hope I was everything I was supposed to be
When the angels sing
There's gotta be a heaven
Cause I've already done
My time in hell
And a little
Baby's born when it all comes down
Hear the angels sing

Stand up strong
Feel the pain
When the angels sing
Love
And death
Don't mean a thing
Till the angels sing
Little
By little
Day by day
I watch the children play
Cause life
And death
Don't mean a thing
Till the angels sing
 
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