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Hate that I feel this way.....

blueta2 said:
So my friend just emailed me... She is an arab. In her reply, she answered me in Arabic (which she often used to), I replied that she needs to translate. She replied "You're in Canada and since Arabic will be the official language soon, you should learn"
I did not LOL!!!! Now I am distubed!
Growing up, my neighborhood was filled with Italians, Irish, Polish, blacks, French and Pakistan children. I never knew racism. My parents never taught me to hate.
We all laughed at one another’s traditions in a joking manner, but we all played together and were friends. Our parents were friends.
Well I have to say, since the insurgence of the Muslims to my area, city and country, I'm feeling like I may be a racist.
I look at some of them with such distain. How the women must cover up. How the ugly men they are married to do not allow them freedom. How they come here and suck off our system.
How they are given freedoms here that I would not be given in their country.
These women have kid after kid after kid in which our health care system pays for.
My friend who I talk about above is a Christian from Iraq. She came to this country with her entire family (11 ppl) to have a better life.
She assimilated well, but her husband, who is Muslim, is hateful (she converted even though she is against the Muslim religion)
When I met him, he called blacks "slaves" and women "maids". He would always talk about his hate for Jews and Canada and how one day this country would see how much they hate. He only came to Canada b/c his wife was coming w/or w/out his sorry ass.
He also justified (as did she) 9/11. Saying "they" deserved it!
I asked Nora why So much hate?! She said where they are from, they are taught to hate. Her as a Christian was also taught to hate.
I was young and naive then, so didn't quiet get it.
Why doesn't anyone speak out against the hate many of these Muslims breed? Because they will have to fear for their lives if they do?
I’m not so much talking about their religion, b/c I believe ALL religions are a total joke. But who these people are in general.
I'm not saying all Muslims are bad and I am all for diversity (hell I grew up in the largest multi cultural society in North America), but when do we say enough is enough and stop allowing them access to peaceful countries?
I really never thought in my entire life I would be hard core like this. Am I a racist or do I just hate what these ppl stand for?!
sounds like your friends with some pretty simple minded idiots. you both sound great for eachother
 
BIKINIMOM said:
Where did you get that from?

I was also beaten up daily by black and hispanic kids from kindergarten through 8th grade because even though I was as poor as they were I was still white, not to mention European immigrant's kid but surprize, surprize I don't hate all black or hispanic people. I was treated VERY POORLY by the rich white catholic kids when I went to high school because I wasn't rich or catholic - fuck me runnin, being white didn't help me at all cause I still LOOKED hispanic. But again, surprize, surprize I don't hate all catholics, rich or white people.

What I was trying to say is that there is good and bad IN ALL OF US and that includes YOU and ME. I was trying to help Blue not limit herself by what might be an irrational and unwarranted sense of fear, maybe one that was even misguided?

Nothing more and nothing less.

Some of us try to look at the positives while apparently someone like you prefers to see only the negatives. Maybe that makes me naive, but it works for me. :)


Beaten up through the 8th grade, treated badly by the catholics, lived on the streets of France...Wow, you've lived a wonderful life!

I'm not getting into another spiel because someone that limits their intelect by living in a fantasy world is hardly worth the time.
 
army_stud said:
Beaten up through the 8th grade, treated badly by the catholics, lived on the streets of France...Wow, you've lived a wonderful life!

I'm not getting into another spiel because someone that limits their intelect by living in a fantasy world is hardly worth the time.

When you can not offer an intelligent rebuttal during an intelligent discourse you resort to degradation and name-calling. Do you think that increases or diminishes the strength of your arguement?

You are hate-filled and I feel sorry for you. But that is YOUR CROSS to bear. It is one that you willingly took upon your back. Don't blame all the Muslims or the Jews or Christians or whomever. I am certain that we would have no shortage of piss-poor examples of human beings in EVERY religious group (or any group for that matter). Point the finger where it belongs = in the mirror.

A lot of bad things have happened to me, 'tis true and yet, remarkably I still do not bear resentment towards ENTIRE GROUPS OF PEOPLE based on the actions of some individuals who belong to those groups. I prefer to judge each individual based on the content of their character alone.

Silly me.
 
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BIKINIMOM said:
When I lived in Paris and found myself homeless and screwed over by the people who were most LIKE ME I found that my life was saved by a man who was NOTHING like me (at least on the outside, eh?) - as in, he was a Muslim. He was a man by the name of Adham Hussein. He took me in even though he had only met me once a few days earlier and of all places, in a strip club. The man had belts that were worth 800 Euro. Could you imagine the leap of faith he took sharing his apartment with a woman who was a total stranger - and a stripper no less? It was a small place, a studio with one bed. This guy was 3 times my size and could have snapped me in two with no effort. Yet he never even looked at me *funny*, hell the guy had already seen me dancing wearing little more than 8" platform heels and a teeny little thong. All he asked from me is that I do not disturb him when he was praying. I stayed with him for 10 days or so until I found my own apartment with a Lebanese woman who I still keep in contact with today.

He never put a hand on me. He never looked at me in a sexual fashion. He never made me feel afraid. He comforted me on many occasions when I would ball for hours because I was in such a terribly dark chapter of my life: alone, no family, no REAL friend, no money and worst of all - no children....

I will never EVER forget his kindess and charity. His act of compassion changed my life forever. It was because of men like him that I didn't become bitter and jaded about the entire human race.

He was Muslim, Blue....

There is good and bad in all of us... that includes you and me. None of us is 100% good. Our behavior though is dictated by what we do with our thoughts and feelings - will we listen to the good part of us or give in to what the bad part of us dictates?

Just an odd sort of thought.... Blue as we are getting older and our senses falter and as women I think perhaps that our sense of fear comes more from THAT than anything else. I remember watching my Mama locking up the house tightly at night even though there was no real crime where she lived. But she was old and her hearing was very bad and of course, she had heard on the TV and read in the papers that old people are falling victims to murder and bodily harm and their homes are being broken into....

As I am getting older and my senses are not as sharp so I can see that I am also slowly turning into my Mama, my sister feels it too now because she is living in her house without her husband....

I think maybe your fear is more a sense of your own dwindling ability to defend yourself from an attack?

Just a thought.

You're off here actually. My friend Nora is a Muslim and I trust her and her family immensely. And I don't fear attacks in my home. Believe me, age has not taken my senses away. I live alone and administer many rental properties in which I've dealt with violent tenants. I kicked a bunch of Jamaican drug dealers out of an apt once. I had some fear they may come back and attack me, but not enough fear about it that I didn't NOT throw the dirt bags out on the street.
I know not all Muslims are bad, I never said that. What I fear is the influx of Muslims perpetuating violence in my country.
I mean look at the Muslims who were caught last month. Most were Dr's. Because a man feeds you and lets you live with him doesn't mean he's not hiding something (not saying he was).
Most terrorist cells live normal lives. They hide their hate very well.
 
blueta2 said:
You're off here actually. My friend Nora is a Muslim and I trust her and her family immensely. And I don't fear attacks in my home. Believe me, age has not taken my senses away. I live alone and administer many rental properties in which I've dealt with violent tenants. I kicked a bunch of Jamaican drug dealers out of an apt once. I had some fear they may come back and attack me, but not enough fear about it that I didn't NOT throw the dirt bags out on the street.
I know not all Muslims are bad, I never said that. What I fear is the influx of Muslims perpetuating violence in my country.
I mean look at the Muslims who were caught last month. Most were Dr's. Because a man feeds you and lets you live with him doesn't mean he's not hiding something (not saying he was).
Most terrorist cells live normal lives. They hide their hate very well.

OK I was wrong about the senses diminshing thing. I suppose I was just trying to find an explanation for something that I don't understand. I hope that you can find peace.
 
SublimeZM said:
sounds like your friends with some pretty simple minded idiots. you both sound great for eachother


well.......least I have friends and get laid on a reg basis
 
BIKINIMOM said:
OK I was wrong about the senses diminshing thing. I suppose I was just trying to find an explanation for something that I don't understand. I hope that you can find peace.


I will find peace when they invent a calorie free choc. chip cookie ;-)

I do hear you though...I feel unrest with this. Daily I put the news on or read the news and I hear about so much violence.
I mean I live in a large city where the murder rate in a yr is about 80 ppl. We are so non violent up here so yeah this makes me nervous.
 
blueta2 said:
I will find peace when they invent a calorie free choc. chip cookie ;-)
I do hear you though...I feel unrest with this. Daily I put the news on or read the news and I hear about so much violence.
I mean I live in a large city where the murder rate in a yr is about 80 ppl. We are so non violent up here so yeah this makes me nervous.


AMEN SISTER!
 
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