Hate that I feel this way.....

[blueta2]

True, they are animals. But my argument is really against blueta feeling scared in Canada, which is complete bullshit, she has psycho friend and feels threatened by him ( im not sure if he actually said something to her but just expressed his opinion)

i also clarified my self in the previous post

Fez, my friend is not psycho. She is a very respectable person. Her husband is the hater. They do not scare me.
What scares me is if I want to speak out (like I am here) on my local paper, I will more than likely be hurt.

 

[Faizakafez]

Okay,

I can't really comment on the hurt part im sure its a valid fear and reasonable and understandable. The back lash in CDN im sure is alot less or harsh.

But anyhow i have digressed, is your friend happy with her husband?

 

[blueta2]

intimidated is correct, im not trying to get in a pissing match. But she said i think on the first page of this thread
" i feel scared even at home"

now that to me is a bit extreme,

I mean we all are going to go some day if your going to sit home and be scared of every little thing/crime then that is more of mental issue ( its a bit of tangent but you get what im saying)

"home" meaning my country. You do not think these extreme terrorist groups are all over Canada? You are foolish to believe otherwise.
I live a large city, like you, where these idiots can crash planes or blow up our buildings.
If anything TO would be hit first so I think you should be scared also.

 

[blueta2]

Okay,

I can't really comment on the hurt part im sure its a valid fear and reasonable and understandable. The back lash in CDN im sure is alot less or harsh.

But anyhow i have digressed, is your friend happy with her husband?

No, she is not happy with him. Not because he's Muslim, but b/c he is old and unexciting and smokes pipes ;-)

 

[gotmilk]

Show me your bewbs and I'll cum up to Montreal and start Terminating

 

[redsamurai]

HA!! arabic the official language of Canada?? Once the muslims hear how badly the Canucks mangle the english language........they'll just as soon leave it be. I mean, can you imagine a canuck speaking arabic? It would be like the movie Fargo............but totally tripping balls on heavy shrooms and LSD. Anyway.............I'm tired of fucking muslims thinking they'll rule the world. Like Canadians are going to give up their molson's........yeah right. And what fucking army do the muslims think they're going to cross the pacific with? Last I checked camels don't float too well............and 1950's soviet era weaponry is going to get checked by the .50 as soon as they land on the beach. Dumb mother fuckers!! Muslims would have a much greater time in the world if they just came some where and just "chilled the fuck out"!! Be muslims....whatever..............but let people around you be what they want to be. Than we'd all just go about our rat killin and enjoy and appreciate the diversity around us...............but that's not good enough for some folks is it?
And I'm completely mystified as to how these people beleive that Islam has some kind of draw in western countries? I mean, we're slowly but surely shedding off christianity............so what, we're going to go to something even more fundamental? We're going to make women wear potato sacks? What red blooded man out here is going to put up with that garbage? Sharia law is basically putting yourself under martial law..........no more no less............what's the attraction? They have to sell us on it...........and quite frankly they're terrible marketers at this juncture!

 

[redsamurai]

musclemom is 100% on point.........as usual. These folks hold onto grudges for generations.

To get to the core of the hatred in Muslims you have to go back CENTURIES to the time of the Crusades. We have a short memory, that's all. When you have nothing but sand and time, you get good at hanging onto grudges. We don't remember why they hate us because we move on and do other things. They sit around in sandstorms, bake in the heat, and remember how entire cities, men, women and children, were massacred nearly 1000 years ago, and they're still pissed about it.

While this is an EXTREME oversimplification of what's going on, it has always made the most sense to me. The thing with European decendents is that we have shifted all over the globe, so we don't have a lot of ancestral grounds, tradition and familial memories get blurred. I think when you stay in the same place your family has always been in, your people has always been in, it almost creates race memories and the other thing I think it does is create sort of a cultural stagnation, people have a hard time moving ahead, mentally.

Just my opinion.

 

[Bikini Mod]

When I lived in Paris and found myself homeless and screwed over by the people who were most LIKE ME I found that my life was saved by a man who was NOTHING like me (at least on the outside, eh?) - as in, he was a Muslim. He was a man by the name of Adham Hussein. He took me in even though he had only met me once a few days earlier and of all places, in a strip club. The man had belts that were worth 800 Euro. Could you imagine the leap of faith he took sharing his apartment with a woman who was a total stranger - and a stripper no less? It was a small place, a studio with one bed. This guy was 3 times my size and could have snapped me in two with no effort. Yet he never even looked at me *funny*, hell the guy had already seen me dancing wearing little more than 8" platform heels and a teeny little thong. All he asked from me is that I do not disturb him when he was praying. I stayed with him for 10 days or so until I found my own apartment with a Lebanese woman who I still keep in contact with today.

He never put a hand on me. He never looked at me in a sexual fashion. He never made me feel afraid. He comforted me on many occasions when I would ball for hours because I was in such a terribly dark chapter of my life: alone, no family, no REAL friend, no money and worst of all - no children....

I will never EVER forget his kindess and charity. His act of compassion changed my life forever. It was because of men like him that I didn't become bitter and jaded about the entire human race.

He was Muslim, Blue....

There is good and bad in all of us... that includes you and me. None of us is 100% good. Our behavior though is dictated by what we do with our thoughts and feelings - will we listen to the good part of us or give in to what the bad part of us dictates?

Just an odd sort of thought.... Blue as we are getting older and our senses falter and as women I think perhaps that our sense of fear comes more from THAT than anything else. I remember watching my Mama locking up the house tightly at night even though there was no real crime where she lived. But she was old and her hearing was very bad and of course, she had heard on the TV and read in the papers that old people are falling victims to murder and bodily harm and their homes are being broken into....

As I am getting older and my senses are not as sharp so I can see that I am also slowly turning into my Mama, my sister feels it too now because she is living in her house without her husband....

I think maybe your fear is more a sense of your own dwindling ability to defend yourself from an attack?

Just a thought.

 

[army_stud]

When I lived in Paris and found myself homeless and screwed over by the people who were most LIKE ME I found that my life was saved by a man who was NOTHING like me (at least on the outside, eh?) - as in, he was a Muslim. He was a man by the name of Adham Hussein. He took me in even though he had only met me once a few days earlier and of all places, in a strip club. The man had belts that were worth 800 Euro. Could you imagine the leap of faith he took sharing his apartment with a woman who was a total stranger - and a stripper no less? It was a small place, a studio with one bed. This guy was 3 times my size and could have snapped me in two with no effort. Yet he never even looked at me *funny*, hell the guy had already seen me dancing wearing little more than 8" platform heels and a teeny little thong. All he asked from me is that I do not disturb him when he was praying. I stayed with him for 10 days or so until I found my own apartment with a Lebanese woman who I still keep in contact with today.

He never put a hand on me. He never looked at me in a sexual fashion. He never made me feel afraid. He comforted me on many occasions when I would ball for hours because I was in such a terribly dark chapter of my life: alone, no family, no REAL friend, no money and worst of all - no children....

I will never EVER forget his kindess and charity. His act of compassion changed my life forever. It was because of men like him that I didn't become bitter and jaded about the entire human race.

He was Muslim, Blue....

There is good and bad in all of us... that includes you and me. None of us is 100% good. Our behavior though is dictated by what we do with our thoughts and feelings - will we listen to the good part of us or give in to what the bad part of us dictates?

Just an odd sort of thought.... Blue as we are getting older and our senses falter and as women I think perhaps that our sense of fear comes more from THAT than anything else. I remember watching my Mama locking up the house tightly at night even though there was no real crime where she lived. But she was old and her hearing was very bad and of course, she had heard on the TV and read in the papers that old people are falling victims to murder and bodily harm and their homes are being broken into....

As I am getting older and my senses are not as sharp so I can see that I am also slowly turning into my Mama, my sister feels it too now because she is living in her house without her husband....

I think maybe your fear is more a sense of your own dwindling ability to defend yourself from an attack?

Just a thought.

So you have one good experience with a Muslim and now you're their spokeswoman? Well I have about 5000 bad experiences when I lived in 7 different Muslim countries.

You're stereotyping a whole group of people by one person...Another far-gone liberal on a soap box...

 

[Bikini Mod]

So you have one good experience with a Muslim and now you're their spokeswoman? Well I have about 5000 bad experiences when I lived in 7 different Muslim countries.

You're stereotyping a whole group of people by one person...Another far-gone liberal on a soap box...

Where did you get that from?

I was also beaten up daily by black and hispanic kids from kindergarten through 8th grade because even though I was as poor as they were I was still white, not to mention European immigrant's kid but surprize, surprize I don't hate all black or hispanic people. I was treated VERY POORLY by the rich white catholic kids when I went to high school because I wasn't rich or catholic - fuck me runnin, being white didn't help me at all cause I still LOOKED hispanic. But again, surprize, surprize I don't hate all catholics, rich or white people.

What I was trying to say is that there is good and bad IN ALL OF US and that includes YOU and ME. I was trying to help Blue not limit herself by what might be an irrational and unwarranted sense of fear, maybe one that was even misguided?

Nothing more and nothing less.

Some of us try to look at the positives while apparently someone like you prefers to see only the negatives. Maybe that makes me naive, but it works for me.