Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below I never really liked jack3d, NTKTS for me is where it's at.
Halo and TNE preworkout?!??
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I never really liked jack3d, NTKTS for me is where it's at.
Why not? Var is very mild and easy on the liver. I was a little concerned with running halo because of how harsh it is, but I am running liver support throughout the cycle and I am only using it pre WO so I don't foresee a problem. I will be getting bloods done at week 4 of this cycle so I will report back with the results so everyone can have an idea as to what is going on. I know we all would react different to this cycle but you can get an idea of how it will effect you.
But if there is another reason why you wouldn't run halo with var please share, love getting knowledge from you more experience bros
No, simply from a health point of view. Don't fall into the old bro-ology that Var is easy on the liver. Its still 17aa. So its still liver toxic. Some people obviously deal with liver toxicity better than others pertaining to blood work results. Plus 80mg of var is far from a modest amount. That with the most liver toxic oral (halo) sounds like a bad idea. But that's just me.
Not trying to be a downer. Just don't want you to fuck yourself up.
Not being a downer at all. It's good advice, I am going to continue to run it and get bloods done to really see what is happening. Is there some symptoms I can look for to see if my liver is taking a beating before I get my bloods done or am I out of luck?
IIRC you'll get extreme fatigue if your liver is taking too much of a beating. Possibly jaundice? I don't want to throw out bro-ology either as I cant remember exactly.
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I ran halo for months at 40mg/day. Crashed my motorcycle one, woke up in an ER with a doctor of Arabic descent telling me my liver values were high and asking if I was on meth because I had just taken jack3d (that'll test positive for amphetamines lol). I remember starting to feel fatigued all the time, even with heavy stimulants.
I wouldn't run the var - not because of the toxicity, but because its like pixy dusting yourself with a weak ass drug. Even at 150mg/day var is still weak.
Run some liver detox while you're on those drugs, a lot of certain types of spices will help your cholesterol values not go to absolute crap too.
I wouldn't run the var - not because of the toxicity, but because its like pixy dusting yourself with a weak ass drug. Even at 150mg/day var is still weak.
Run some liver detox while you're on those drugs, a lot of certain types of spices will help your cholesterol values not go to absolute crap too.
So your saying that because var will give mostly strength and lean hard mass(albeit not much mass) that he may as well run halo because it will do the same thing only wayyyyy more?
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Halo will do way better for strength, test will do way better for mass. Granted, the var might be hitting it from another angle, it just is a little overkill. And running two orals at once - not saying it cant be done, it's impact is peanuts compared to the others.
Staggering the orals is always a good way to go imo. Run the var first, or end with it. Halo, imo, is the best way to end a cycle if you're looking for the ultimate in cyborg look.
I always run two orals together. But I have a different approach. I use winny for my base oral, then pulsate drols or halo preworkout with some coffee so I can rock and roll in the gym.
I love var and at 80mg I get great results. The strength and lean mass is perfect for my needs. I dont know if I will experience any of the benefits from the hardening properties of halo from running it the way I am only pre WO. But the added aggression and strength in the gym is nuts. I don't think I could spend 4-6 weeks on it.
