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darwinmcduck

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I will be going in to get my $5k worth of gyno reduction today. I was feelin upset about having to get it and pay for it but now I am excited to get it over with. They say no training for 4 weeks, YUCK to that. I will give a detailed description of the event when the antithesia wears off and I am by my computer.
 
hmm darwin, this is something im thinking of doing at the end of the summer, i have just a bit from my first cycle where i was a moron, people say they don't notice but man i know its there!

keep me updated on progress/pain/recovery etc, im very interested
 
darwinmcduck said:
I will be going in to get my $5k worth of gyno reduction today. I was feelin upset about having to get it and pay for it but now I am excited to get it over with. They say no training for 4 weeks, YUCK to that. I will give a detailed description of the event when the antithesia wears off and I am by my computer.
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Thats awesome bro, best of luck and I hope you have a speedy recovery.
 
My boy just had this surgery a few months ago. He was back in the gym in two weeks with no problems. Hopefully, you'll have the same kind of recovery.

Good luck bor. Hope it all goes well.
 
Getting mine done next week. Micro Liposuction. It must be cheaper here in Texas. $3,200 cash and I'm going to Houston's top notch surgeon!

Good luck bro
 
It is hard to say what caused it. It occurs in people more frequently than you would imagine. I have seen it puff up from deca even and deca is my favorite. I took a lot of sten and test early on and I think that is when I first noticd it. I do not have any major tissue just nipples that look like the corners of envelopes.
 
darwinmcduck said:
I will be going in to get my $5k worth of gyno reduction today. I was feelin upset about having to get it and pay for it but now I am excited to get it over with. They say no training for 4 weeks, YUCK to that. I will give a detailed description of the event when the antithesia wears off and I am by my computer.
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Remember, make sure you got for a check up every 3 days for 2 weeks, and get a comp-vest. If the liquid builds up in the area, immediately make an emergency appointment with the doctor.

If you have questoins, hit me up - I have fortunate and unfortunate experiences with gyno surgery.

Good luck and god bless :)
 
I feel good and the surgery seems to be a success. I am kind of sore but have not taken any pain meds. I threw up for most of the day due to the antithesia. The nipples looked flat yesterday but today I am more swolen so it is hard to tell. With all liposuction you can expect a lot of bruising. I don't bruse easy and actually do not have a single bruis despite the doctor saying that he really milled around in there. If you are a meathead surgery will always be difficult for the doctors. They have to maneuver through and around the muscles. This has been brought up to me after every surgery I have ever had. If you are big do your best to stay out of the operating room.
 
darwinmcduck said:
I feel good and the surgery seems to be a success. I am kind of sore but have not taken any pain meds. I threw up for most of the day due to the antithesia. The nipples looked flat yesterday but today I am more swolen so it is hard to tell. With all liposuction you can expect a lot of bruising. I don't bruse easy and actually do not have a single bruis despite the doctor saying that he really milled around in there. If you are a meathead surgery will always be difficult for the doctors. They have to maneuver through and around the muscles. This has been brought up to me after every surgery I have ever had. If you are big do your best to stay out of the operating room.
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I had it done like 10yrs ago..... The bruising is pretty severe from what I remember..... My doc told me the chest won't look like it's gonna look like for about 6mths.... He was right, the swelling takes a long ass time to get completely down..... One tip bro.... Use Coco butter on the chest to tighten it up real nice..... Also, Vitamin E on the scars made mine go away TOTALLY.... Just prick a vitamin E capsule, and rub the oil on the scars, it totally works... I have NO SIGNS of scars now..... I was pretty sick post surgery too.... I don't react well to anethesia for some reason.... Did you get the compression vest? The vest is great cause it "Gels" the chest into its' new form..... Glad to hear it went well.... I guess now youre gonna be living in front of that mirror, checking out the job..... Just remember it takes up to 6mths for the swelling to TOTALLY go down.... I mean, it will look better sooner then that, but it keeps improving over time is my point.... Good luck in your recovery.....

rizz
 
i had it when i was like 13, man, i was violently puking dude. and i was in so much pain that everytime i puked it just felt like i was getting ripped apart. i still have a little gyno effect on me, it doesn't bother me anymore. what i had as a kid wore some serious tits, man did that fuck with my head. fights everyday in school for 3 years. now i get here and see i am not alone and am actually a normal person. friggin weird.
 
darwinmcduck said:
I feel good and the surgery seems to be a success. I am kind of sore but have not taken any pain meds. I threw up for most of the day due to the antithesia. The nipples looked flat yesterday but today I am more swolen so it is hard to tell. With all liposuction you can expect a lot of bruising. I don't bruse easy and actually do not have a single bruis despite the doctor saying that he really milled around in there. If you are a meathead surgery will always be difficult for the doctors. They have to maneuver through and around the muscles. This has been brought up to me after every surgery I have ever had. If you are big do your best to stay out of the operating room.
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real glad to hear your doing well bro, i have been thinking of getting it done myself. You dont happen to have a link for your doc do you?
 
darwinmcduck said:
I feel good and the surgery seems to be a success. I am kind of sore but have not taken any pain meds. I threw up for most of the day due to the antithesia. The nipples looked flat yesterday but today I am more swolen so it is hard to tell. With all liposuction you can expect a lot of bruising. I don't bruse easy and actually do not have a single bruis despite the doctor saying that he really milled around in there. If you are a meathead surgery will always be difficult for the doctors. They have to maneuver through and around the muscles. This has been brought up to me after every surgery I have ever had. If you are big do your best to stay out of the operating room.
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Its great to see it worked out well for you. Enjoy your new chest :p
 
I read somewhere that if you completely remove the glnands under the nipples, gyno won't happen again no matter what kind of gear you used. That is, in addition of getting the fatty tissue removed by liposuction. Does anyone know this? Thanks. :rolleyes:
 
schneiderc2004 said:
I read somewhere that if you completely remove the glnands under the nipples, gyno won't happen again no matter what kind of gear you used. That is, in addition of getting the fatty tissue removed by liposuction. Does anyone know this? Thanks. :rolleyes:
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Ive never been able to get a straight answer about it. I had my surgery in Dec. of '05.

It was from puberty and it was a moderate case. He said I was a "mixed bag". He did some lipo and crushed the gland. Ive never seen this before but he said removing it totally can cause pits in the chest.

At first I was pissed he didnt remove the gland but then the swelling started to go down even more after the 5 month period and it looks great and the crushed gland is not visible. Keep in mind I am not a sub 10% person as of right now. Im hovering around 13% so I guess it is possible that if I got extremely lean it may show slightly.

Another reason I am glad is because on my right pec there is an area where it appears he accidentally removed part of the gland and there is a small but fairly deep divot. If this were to be bigger and on both sides it would look strange.

It just so happened that my Dr. was the chief of plastic surgery here in MD at GBMC. This put my mind at ease that he knew what he was doing.

I never brought up the gyno coming back from AAS use when the gland is removed because I could just tell with his personality that he would have lectured me and I would have felt just plain stupid.
 
4 weeks off aint nothin' bro... you'll be back before you know it.
 
Questions :


Your insurance didn't pay?

To the other guy with the crushed gland... what is the point of crushing it? Does that kill/deactivate the gland?
 
AAP said:
Questions :


Your insurance didn't pay?

To the other guy with the crushed gland... what is the point of crushing it? Does that kill/deactivate the gland?
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Ill have to ask him about killing the gland. He said it would be better for aesthetic purposes to not remove it because it may cause pits if too much is removed. He said the contouring would look better if he crushed it. It was hard for me to argue with him even though I did not agree at first. Then again I am not Harvard educated like him. I figured I needed to trust his professional opinion.
 
So by crushing, that effectively kills it? It will never be sensitive to gyno again?
 
Darwin... just curious... what kind of non-surgical measures had you tried, if any, before having the procedure done? I don't have any experience with gyno, but many are praising the effects of letro + nolva or letro and dostinex... had you tried those? If so, I guess they didn't work for ya... and for how long did you have gyno?

Thanks!
 
AAP said:
So by crushing, that effectively kills it? It will never be sensitive to gyno again?
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Im not quite sure. He is in surgery today so I will call him tomorrow.

I did a cycle after my surgery and I could feel some stimulation in the surrounding gland but since it is spread out so much im not sure how it would look if it were to become enlarged again. It is also hard to differentiate between the scar tissue and the left over gland. I forgot to mention I have a nerve issue in my right arm now. My wrist is extremely sensitive to touch and for the first 2 months I had severe burning when I would twist my arm. He said the swelling in my chest area was pinching a nerve. It was the worst pain I have experienced to date, felt like fire rushing down my arm.
 
Now if he crushed it and it is now covering a larger space (acting as tissue filler), if it does get aggravated again, you could end up on with gyno lopside on the breast area.

Oh, did your insurance cover it.
 
AAP said:
Now if he crushed it and it is now covering a larger space (acting as tissue filler), if it does get aggravated again, you could end up on with gyno lopside on the breast area.

Oh, did your insurance cover it.
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He said he crushed it up so fine to where it was like strands of hair between his fingers... kinda wierd. He always said if I really wanted to get it removed completely he would do it for $250 since I already paid for the surgery once.
I do not have health insurance.

My bf keeps dropping now that I am extremely disciplined so if I can see the gland I will get it removed almost all the way. I guess he would try to keep a little behind the nipple to prevent the divot.
 
shortspanishguy said:
He said he crushed it up so fine to where it was like strands of hair between his fingers... kinda wierd. He always said if I really wanted to get it removed completely he would do it for $250 since I already paid for the surgery once.
I do not have health insurance.

My bf keeps dropping now that I am extremely disciplined so if I can see the gland I will get it removed almost all the way. I guess he would try to keep a little behind the nipple to prevent the divot.
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How much was your overall surgery?

Did he recommend you shed as much fat as you can before the surgery. That is what docs down here tell people. Reduce overall bodyfat so it is easier to contour the shape.
 
My surgeon actually crushed up the glands too.... He then said he sucked out some of them too, and I could NEVER get gyno again.... I wasn't too concerned back then about it to be honest..... I have no divets or indentations even when I get below 8% BF..... The entire nipple area is very "consistent" looking, for lack of a better word.... I also don't believe I can't get gyno again, so I take precautions against getting it.....

I did try to reduce the gyno through diet and drugs Marco 1st..... The leaner I got, the more evident the gyno got, which is what made me decide to get the surgery....

rizz
 
No I did not ask for insurance to pay. I have already asking too many questions because I have had three abcesses removed. I do not want to compromise my life insurance policy. I have tried letro and nolvadex but it was too hard on the sex drive. I just did not feel right. The combination was working but my dick turned into pudding.
 
darwinmcduck said:
No I did not ask for insurance to pay. I have already asking too many questions because I have had three abcesses removed. I do not want to compromise my life insurance policy. I have tried letro and nolvadex but it was too hard on the sex drive. I just did not feel right. The combination was working but my dick turned into pudding.
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Some cialis and time... ;) Personally, I'd never go under the knife if I didn't have to - especially since the letro was working well for your gyno. I wish I had letrozole before my first gyno surgery...I would have never let anyone cut me open when I could use some letro.
 
AAP said:
How much was your overall surgery?

Did he recommend you shed as much fat as you can before the surgery. That is what docs down here tell people. Reduce overall bodyfat so it is easier to contour the shape.
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I paid a fee of 3000 to him and a total of 1450 to the hospital for the room fees and anaesthesia.

He didnt mention anything about dropping bf.
 
down here people hate to lean up because their gyno is more evident.... so they have the surgery and then lean up and it takes a complete different look and shape. hence the reason most docs tell people to drop BF% and then lean up.

Now how bad did this hurt? When were you back at work (what kind of work is it you do?) How soon in the gym or were you just hitting the tread mill in that time to keep active?
 
AAP said:
down here people hate to lean up because their gyno is more evident.... so they have the surgery and then lean up and it takes a complete different look and shape. hence the reason most docs tell people to drop BF% and then lean up.

Now how bad did this hurt? When were you back at work (what kind of work is it you do?) How soon in the gym or were you just hitting the tread mill in that time to keep active?
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2 Percs took care of the pain. It took me a month to get back to work (food service) and roughly 21 days for light lifting. Prolly 5 weeks before I felt OK to go heavy again.
 
shortspanishguy said:
2 Percs took care of the pain. It took me a month to get back to work (food service) and roughly 21 days for light lifting. Prolly 5 weeks before I felt OK to go heavy again.
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what about people with office jobs? I thought food service was pretty light. Why so long to get back.

What did you do while you were recovering? could you drive?
 
AAP said:
what about people with office jobs? I thought food service was pretty light. Why so long to get back.

What did you do while you were recovering? could you drive?
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I worked at a country club that required us to lift trays with up to 12 entrees which can get pretty heavy because they are extra large plates with steel tops.
I sat around alot because I had to keep the compression vest on for 7 days straight so bathing was very difficult and I started to stink. I had to have my gf sponge bathe me so I didnt get the vest wet. I didnt want to leave the house. My first full shower was so nice. I could drive after roughly 5 days and I did not have drains.
 
I was back to work in 1 week (medical job)..... Started walking for cardio right away, and was back in the gym in about 4 weeks, but didn't train chest for prob 8 weeks..... I basically went 4 weeks longer then my doc told me to not train chest.... Chest is one of my strongest body parts, so there was no real reason to start training it right away..... I did learn that Docs that do this surgery have to have alot of exp, and every case is different.... There is more to it then they let on, and an EXP surgeon is a MUST.....

rizz
 
I know everyone recovers at different paces...
This is what I can add.
My training partner had the surgery done last year. He had maybe an inch of tissue taken out from one side and a couple pea sized lumps taken out of the other. He also had the glands petrified so that his chances are much reduced.

He wore the vest for about 3 days and was back to work in his office the following week. He drove after the vest was off..

He was back in the gym 3 weeks later going about 75 - 80 % except on certain exercises.
 
wait a minute, you can't even take this vest off long enough for a shower? Oh good lord.

And now glands are being petrified as opposed to crushed?
 
wait a minute, you can't even take this vest off long enough for a shower? Oh good lord.

And now glands are being petrified as opposed to crushed?
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Correct, he could not shower nor do much of anything while he had the drain vest on. But that was 3 days, and he was a little under the weather during that time.

He used the word petrified. I wasn't there and I have never had the surgery so I am only using his expression of it. I can check with him tomorrow as to what exactly was done. But I do know that two lumps were removed and a process was done so that gyno symptoms are greatly decreased.
 
with all of the cases listed in this thread, did anyone's insurance cover it? I remember reading a thread a few months back that all you had to do to get insurance to cover was to say there was extreme pain associated with it. For example, not being able to sleep on your stomach or something like that.

If you did get your insurance to cover it can you give us some details?

Thanks,
Cornfish
 
Mr.X said:
Some cialis and time... ;) Personally, I'd never go under the knife if I didn't have to - especially since the letro was working well for your gyno. I wish I had letrozole before my first gyno surgery...I would have never let anyone cut me open when I could use some letro.
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Have to agree here... if the letro & nolva were working, I would've sacrified the libido for a few months if only to avoid going under the knife... plus, from what I understand, surgery doesn't ensure that all of the gyno is removed... so it can come back
 
That is you guys choice. I have been dealin with it for a few years and was seeking relief not treatment. That is where I put more emphasis. It did not put me out financially so it was the right choice for me.
 
darwinmcduck said:
That is you guys choice. I have been dealin with it for a few years and was seeking relief not treatment. That is where I put more emphasis. It did not put me out financially so it was the right choice for me.
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well, yah...these are our opinions / choices / suggestions ... but if you didn't want to hear them, you wouldn't have posted this up in the first place :)
 
darwinmcduck said:
That is you guys choice. I have been dealin with it for a few years and was seeking relief not treatment. That is where I put more emphasis. It did not put me out financially so it was the right choice for me.
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Yeah word, I was like that too.... I was totally OBSESSED on it too, couldn't think of anything else for some reason..... If i had some gyno now, I don't think I'd care as much cause I'm older, but back then it was crazy.... I had to get the surgery done.... I didn't have a drain vest, mine was a compression vest, and I wore it for 3 days only..... I didn't need drainage stuff for whatever reason..... My vest was more for keeping the area tight, and allowing it time to "Gel" back..... Something like that anyways???

rizz
 
I was not asking about your choices or suggestions when it comes to this topic. I posted this to provide testimony concerning gyno and its removal. It is bad couth for one to be advesarial through a computer. It seems like you are tryin to create a debate where it is not neccessary. Your suggestion that I want your opinion is a weak exercise in attempting to flatter yourself. I still do not understand why you have a negative reaction over someone else's
personal decision but I guess that takes the focus away your own insecure ego. Glad I could provide you with some relief.

njmuscleguy said:
well, yah...these are our opinions / choices / suggestions ... but if you didn't want to hear them, you wouldn't have posted this up in the first place :)
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i had gallbladder surgery last year. they told me i'd be out of the gym for 4 weeks. go in and get checked in a week or two, they might clear you to start lifiting earlier. i was given the ok cause i healed pretty well be 2 weeks. 4 weeks is just an estimate. i was on deca during the surgery and i wonder if it helped me heal but good luck.
 
darwinmcduck said:
I was not asking about your choices or suggestions when it comes to this topic. I posted this to provide testimony concerning gyno and its removal. It is bad couth for one to be advesarial through a computer. It seems like you are tryin to create a debate where it is not neccessary. Your suggestion that I want your opinion is a weak exercise in attempting to flatter yourself. I still do not understand why you have a negative reaction over someone else's
personal decision but I guess that takes the focus away your own insecure ego. Glad I could provide you with some relief.
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WHOAH!! I'm not sure where this is coming from...none of my posts in here were intended to be "adversarial"! I've never been adversarial on here with anyone nor was I trying to be with you.... if you checked, there are other people on here that gave their opinions, some the same as mine (Heck, even Macro chimed in with the same question as me!) ... there are countless other threads on EF in which people post their opinions whether they were asked for or not... it's part of what this forum is all about.... I didn't have a negative reaction to your personal decision, I wasn't malicious, nor was I stirring a debate - if surgery worked for you, great! and it's great information for others as well - I had just as much right to post my opinion which simply stated what my personal decision would have been.... NOT an attack on yours - read my post again Sorry you took it the wrong way.... and I have to say, your comment about my "insecure ego".... very uncool and uncalled for - good luck with your recovery
 
No hard feelings. I like this forum and have not ever engaged in an arguement here. I was not the only person that interpreted your post that way. This is evidenced by the amount of pm's and karma I recieved about my last post.
 
what is the difference between a drainage vest and a compression vest?
 
AAP said:
what is the difference between a drainage vest and a compression vest?
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I am guessing the drainage vest is a compresson vest with holes for the tubes.

I didnt need tubes so I just had the comp vest. He said it would help keep shape and lessen scar tissue.
 
I wanted to update the forum with my progress since the operation. I have noticed some very encouraging results and it has only been a week and a half. An interesting thing also happened this last Friday. I went to the shoulder specialist to get some relief from my bum shoulder (special thinks there to winstrol and bar presses). The doctor took mercy on me and wrote the strongest anti-inflamatory available. It is very popular in the NFL. It is called indocin. I took it over the weekend and the swelling from my surgery disappeared. My nipples look way better than I ever expected they would. Maybe mention this drug to your doctor for any post surgery inflamtion. Oh, the shoulder is start to feel better too.
 
The gyno is gone. I am happy now that the healing has progressed. The process has not been uncomfortable really. I went and ran sprints and drills yesterday. It was the day the doctor the first day the doctor allowed me to train. Do you remember the old joke about Dolly Parton joggin(black eyes)? Well I found out the hard way that you are not supposed to run with injured boobs. It was the first time they swelled up. They have been fine for two weeks and then after the sprints they became hard and swolen. Today they are back down again. I hate the compression vest but it actually makes them feel better when its on. If anyone is thinking about gettin it done shoot me a pm.
 
when you go for the initial consultation did you ask to see prior gyno surgeries the doc did?

do you have any before and after pics?
 
Anyone that's seen Darwin's pics knows he's got an unreal physique. Never really saw any gyno but that doensn't mean it wasn't there. If I could look like this guy I know i would get laid 24/7. Hope you heal well bro.
 
Hey guys,

Today I had my gyno surgery. I finally stepped up to the plate and did it. This is my story about how it went.

I have had this gyno since I first hit puberty. I was always pretty skinny buy I had a pointy chest, this stopped me from going to the beach with my shirt off when I got a little older, I never went to the pools etc. It really bothered me. I thought at first I must have had fat around my chest because I was just unlucky and this is where my fat was stored. I started working out when I was around 22 and went to the gym 5 days a week. I toned up and got to be very skinny but the fat around my chest never seemed to get any lower. I searched on Google and came across many sites and that’s when I first thought that I might have had gyno. I didn’t do anything about it until I was 24 because I was scared of going under the knife. Well finally I decided that something had to be done.

I started searching the net for surgeons who could do the surgery and ended up deciding to use Dr. Ashley Granot from the Ashley Centre in Melbourne. I went to see him for a consultation and had all the blood tests. It turns out that all my blood work was perfectly normal for a guy my age. They didn’t have a reason why I had gyno; it was just one of those things. Anyway the surgery set me back $4500 all up including EVERYTHING.

On the day that I was going into surgery I wasn’t allowed to eat anything for 6 hours before operation. I went in and I was nervous as anything. They got me to strip down into a surgical gown and the nurse gave me an intramuscular injection into my glute, it was pain killer and relaxants. I thought it was going to hurt but it didn’t hurt that much at all. After that another nurse put a drip into my arm, I thought it was going to hurt again, but it didn’t, they put heaps of saline into the drip.

After about 15 minutes of waiting for the drugs to kick in the doctor came into the room and cut an incision into my armpit. He inserted a clear plastic tube into the incision and started to pump me full of muscle relaxants, pain killer and something to dilute the fat. He put about 800mls into my chest. After that we waited another 15 minutes for the pain killer and fat diluting solution to start working. The inserting of the clear plastic tube was the most painful part of the surgery. I think painful is a bit harsh of a word. I would say it was VERY uncomfortable. As he was pushing in the tube I could feel the fat ripping away from the muscle below it.

After that he got the liposuction canula and started sucking out the fat. This took a fair while and didn’t hurt for the most part. A few times he hit a hard part of fat which would hurt very slightly but it was bearable. When he finished sucking out all the fat there was still a bit of breast tissue which he could not get out through the canula because it was too hard. So he made an incision around my nipple and pulled it out with some tweezer looking things and he just cut it. This was uncomfortable as I could feel the tissues being ripped out of my chest. But it didn’t hurt. After this was done he sewed me up and I could sit up and put on my compression vest.

Throughout the entire procedure I was awake and could see what was going on. I was sedated but not fully knocked out. The doctor said he did not want to give me general anesthetic and knock me out fully because that was too risky for a minor procedure. He said something like 1 in 10,000 people die from an allergic reaction to general anesthetic or something like that. Plus I wanted to be awake because I didn’t want anything to stuff up and I had heard some horror stories about doctors cutting out chest muscles and stuff like that. I was talking throughout the whole procedure, probably a lot of jibberish cause of all the relaxants but yea.

All in all I am happy that I finally have my gyno gone and I have a flat chest. I only did the surgery this morning and I am already up and about. It doesn’t hurt much at all, it just feels like a really hard gym workout session and I can’t lift my arms over my head. Other than that I got some pain killers but I don’t even need them. If you are thinking about doing this, just DO IT. Don’t be scared of the surgery it’s not that bad.

If you have any questions ill be happy to answer them. Tomorrow I have to go back to the surgery for a post op check up.

My chest is FLAT!!!!!!!


Hope I have helped someone out there!​
 
Were you able to drive home from the surgery? I have my consultation tomorrow and I was hoping I could take care of the whole procedure without anyone knowing
 
I have lumps since a couple of years back from either anavar or primobolan. I am now on HGH, can that make them grow again?

2nd: If I start a nolva cycle now will it help reducing the gyno even if not getting rid of it completely?

Went to a surgeon who said he would not take the lumps away at first since this could result in a "hole" behind the nipple and leave a funny looking chest the other way around. They would suck out the fat first and then remove lumps if necessary by a second surgery. Anyone had this "hole" problem after surgery?

I will go to do surgery in a few months but would like to get rid of the lump as much as possible before if possible? Is there anything else but nolva. Is there any point doing a nolva cycle?
 
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