Gyno removal, Serious question

[sparetire]

This is a question for those who have had removal of their breast tissue glands which are the cause of gyno.

I will be visiting with my plastic surgeon 1 week from now - pre-op consultation. A lot of you know that last year I had removal of gyno that was caused by tren. On top of that, I had lipo performed in the chest and abs/flanks. I had an extreme amount of scarring.

So...

I have to go through the surgery again and I'm thinking about asking him to remove the glands. He once said to me a long time ago that age will bring back gyno, but he was reluctant to remove the glands. I'm thinking about being more persistant about having them removed, but here's the question:

If the doc removes the glands, does your chest still look the same or do they have to put in some sort of silicone implant to make it look the same as before? Or can they take out the glands and it still looks normal? And, if you have any pics post gland removal, I'd be interested.

I really, really, really, do not want to go through this again, because of gear or just old age. I'm only 35 now, but I don't want to be 50 and have tits..lol.

I'm looking for answers from those who have or know someone who had this done..k to those..

thanks!

 

[todoveritas]

Cut and paste the below link:
http://www.rodeodriveplasticsurgery.com/images/gynecomastia1a.jpg

 

[sparetire]

tnx..i'm assuming they took out the glands?

 

[georgie24]

all i know it can come back

glands or not

i cant believe the myth's and bullshit flying around the boards, I HAVE HAD THE SURGERY I STILL GET GYNO FLARE UPS!!!!!!!!

 

[todoveritas]

tnx..i'm assuming they took out the glands?

Hi ST! Yep, despite what your doc might have said. Most surgeons will remove some, if not most of the glands, particularly if you are a competitor or have it bad. Here are some other pix:

http://www.plasticsurgery4u.com/procedure_folder/male_breast/gyno_bodybuilding.html

 

[Mewi]

Okay.. I have a quick question here.. I can see from my last cycle that my nips are have gotten just a little puffy, and there is little lump under.. I have some nolva on hand, can i stop it from getting any bigger with using it?

 

[todoveritas]

The quick answer is: A) if it is estrogen-related; and B) is not a chronic condition, that C) Nolvadex will halt its progression and possibly shrink it some. Better results would be seen with the addition of any one of the aromatase inhibitors. This combo blocks the effect of any estrogen already present in your system from stimulating the breast tissue and prevents any more estrogen from being made.

 

[todoveritas]

all i know it can come back

glands or not

i cant believe the myth's and bullshit flying around the boards, I HAVE HAD THE SURGERY I STILL GET gynecomastia FLARE UPS!!!!!!!!

You are absolutely right Georgie. It is very difficult to remove every single gland cell. Like a cancer, if you leave even one behind, that puppy will become stimulated by estrogen, and if you are prone, it will grow.

 

[DJLegacy2k1]

At age 22, almost 23, would running letro for a couple weeks to help reduce gyno from puberty cause any problems? I have got he dosing information and all, but im completely forgot to find about about sides for younger people?...Should I be ok running low doses of Letro for a couple weeks to see if it helps clear things up?

 

[todoveritas]

At age 22, almost 23, would running Femera - letrozole - for a couple weeks to help reduce gynecomastia from puberty cause any problems? I have got he dosing information and all, but im completely forgot to find about about sides for younger people?...Should I be ok running low doses of Letro for a couple weeks to see if it helps clear things up?

You might give it a go, bro. Unfortunately, if it is residual gyno from puberty it represents a chronic condition that is usually a bit resistent to therapy. I would give it a try, but as above, use both Nolva and Letro simultaneously.

 

[Knights2]

good info here

 

[DJLegacy2k1]

You might give it a go, bro. Unfortunately, if it is residual gynecomastia from puberty it represents a chronic condition that is usually a bit resistent to therapy. I would give it a try, but as above, use both Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - and Femera - letrozole - simultaneously.

I was gonan run a couple weeks of Letro around .5mgs for a couple weeks, then come off it with some nolva, 20mgs for a week, then 10mgs the 2nd week, or something close to it....

 

[ProtienFiend]

I was gonan run a couple weeks of Femera - letrozole - around .5mgs for a couple weeks, then come off it with some Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - , 20mgs for a week, then 10mgs the 2nd week, or something close to it....

You won't notice a difference. These treatments dont help puberty gyno. Best bet is to get bigger and thus, it will be less apparent. Or, trimming down will lose some of the estrous fat in the area and will make it less apparent.

 

[DJLegacy2k1]

^^^ I'll find the articles, thats not always true. There are several studies showing that since Letro starves the tissue of Estrogen that it has accually been working to reduce and in some cases eliminate gyno from puberty, if ran at moderate doses. The issue comes from not running Nolva afterwards thus causing estrogen levels to rebound and the problem returning. Running Nolva and tapering it off at the end can help stabalize test and estrogen levels, helping keep the results. Of course this wont work in EXTREME cases, but has been shown to work more than what people seem to think.

 

[drbermant]

This is a question for those who have had removal of their breast tissue glands which are the cause of gynecomastia.

I will be visiting with my plastic surgeon 1 week from now - pre-op consultation. A lot of you know that last year I had removal of gynecomastia that was caused by trenbolone. On top of that, I had lipo performed in the chest and abs/flanks. I had an extreme amount of scarring.

So...

I have to go through the surgery again and I'm thinking about asking him to remove the glands. He once said to me a long time ago that age will bring back gynecomastia, but he was reluctant to remove the glands. I'm thinking about being more persistant about having them removed, but here's the question:

If the doc removes the glands, does your chest still look the same or do they have to put in some sort of silicone implant to make it look the same as before? Or can they take out the glands and it still looks normal? And, if you have any pics post gland removal, I'd be interested.

I really, really, really, do not want to go through this again, because of gear or just old age. I'm only 35 now, but I don't want to be 50 and have tits..lol.

I'm looking for answers from those who have or know someone who had this done..k to those..

thanks!

I take care of many competition and non-competition bodybuilders from around the world.

Here - Gyno and BodyBuilding

Puffy Nipples and Bodybuilding

Here - Gynecomastia and BodyBuilding

Here - Gynecomastia Treatment

and

Here - Gynecomastia BodyBuilding.

I would suggest looking beyond each link's first page at all of the views for each patient to better understand the difference in the look before / after surgery. There are other examples of lean patients, but thought this would be a good start.


Liposuction Is Great for Sculpting Fat

The arm access site makes the doctor's work much easier for the liposuction component of the surgery. The remote site gives a better seal and makes surgery go much faster. However, removing gland is much more difficult and cannot be done as well as a direct approach. In addition the arm access sites look very strange, the scars just do not hide well and really show up on animation (like lifting the arms). My many revision patients who had other doctors start with arm access sites have told me they prefer my peri-areola scar to their original scars.

When gynecomastia is from fat, liposuction works very well for contouring the chest. I have seen many patients from other doctors who tried to use liposuction alone techniques that left gland behind that the patients just did not like for Revision Gynecomastia Chest Sculpture.

Here is an example of Revision Surgery after Liposuction alone. Here is another revision after liposuction alone.

The problem is picking the right method for what actually is that patient's problem. That is why I prefer my Dynamic Technique that permits what I find during surgery to guide my sculpture.

I have also seen patients with channel problems between remote access sites and the areola / nipple. Scars, adhesions, and depressions can look terrible. Check out the lateral (side views) and posterior oblique (side from the back views with and without muscle flexion here to see what I mean.

As any artist, I take my cannula selection and access sites very seriously and have evolved what permits me to achieve my results. I have considered and evaluated many, many technologies. The many different types of cannula I use have their own advantages and qualities. I pick a subset of these cannula that varies for the many different types of gynecomastia male chest sculpture that I see.

Gland removal by any technique can still leave a depression when a major part of the problem is from gland. For gland removal, I prefer the greater precision of removal under direct visualization and feel. This also give me access to many more elements for my artistic palette of my Dynamic Technique to sculpt the remaining tissues.

This approach permits me to maximize the removal of the firm gland and sculpt the remaining fat. How tissues move is important. The human body is beautiful in animation. That is why I show pictures of the chest with arms up, down, and with muscles tight / relaxed in addition to the results from multiple views. Such analysis of the results as well as how tissues evolve, the possible need for drains, comfort level after surgery, are important factors in picking your doctor. It is like an artist selecting a paint brush. The results are what matters, not with what tool they sculpt.

Hope this helps,

Michael Bermant, MD
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