gyno help...plz reply

[sandy444]

hii guys my name is shawn living in india,my english is not too good but i will try to make it understandable ,my age is 23 ,height 5.8 inches ,been bodybuilding since last 5 years, gone from being 60kgs to 80 kgs in this five years
my bf % is around 14% .i have been doing alot of research on steroids read many boooks like layman guides ,underground steroid handbook by dan duchaine and had read many articles everyday on internet.i have tried doing a steroids cycle 4 months back ,i was taking
testosterone enanthate with decadurabolin(nandrolone) also i had winny for later half of the cycle.the problem which i faced when i started this cycle was i was battling with gyno i got puffy nipples in my third week(i was having very minute gyno since puberty),it is then i started with all anti estrogen tabs femara nolvadex it was more of avoiding gyno then gaining muscle on this cycle.eventually i had to stop the cycle by tapering the doses by the 5th week...i was taking nolvadex for 2 months just for a 5 week cycle in order to avoid gyno build up .now i think im stable as i treated the slight gyno which developed during cycle.also my doses for deca and test were in the range of max 400 mg per week which i think is tolerable though i started with minimum dose of 200mg in first week.
my question here is 1) people say testosterone should be there in every beginner cycle ,is it necessary?are they no non aromatising mass building steroids?
2)can i gain same amount on non aramatising steroids like primo anavar.if yes can anyone suggest a beginner cycle with these steroids?
3)lastly are bulking steroids not for guys who are extremly gyno prone ?plz help.

 

[Mavafanculo]

testosterone is the conventional wisdom mass builder that forms the basis of every cycle. some may disagree, but at minimum every cycle needs at least a replacement dose of test to keep your body somewhat normal not only sexually but mentally.

1) since you're prone to gyno, you should start an aromatase inhibitor (letro, arimidex or aromasin) right from the beginning to avoid gyno issues. start at the lowest effective dose per profiles and only work up if neccessary. estrogen is condusive to gains, but needs to be balanced with gyno concerns. Note, if you are combining your test with deca or other nandrolones, the SERMs nolva/clomid/ralox are not an option for gyno prevention.

2) yes you can gain on non-aromatizing compounds, but other than Tren or anadrol (which are NOT for a beginner) nothing will build mass like aromatizing test/dbol. (btw anadrol is a strange case because while non-aromatizing, it apparantly acts as an estrogen agonist natively)

3) see #1

 

[michaelChicago]

Mavafanculo

with oxa and Tbol ?

anything problems with gyno ? i have a little gyno

thanks!

 

[Mavafanculo]

Mavafanculo

with oxa and Tbol ?

anything problems with gyno ? i have a little gyno

thanks!

well you posted and PM'ed me the same question, if I check will there be a K message with it too? lol j/k

I answered in PM

 

[michaelChicago]

sorry error

 

[sandy444]

testosterone is the conventional wisdom mass builder that forms the basis of every cycle. some may disagree, but at minimum every cycle needs at least a replacement dose of test to keep your body somewhat normal not only sexually but mentally.

1) since you're prone to gyno, you should start an aromatase inhibitor (letro, arimidex or aromasin) right from the beginning to avoid gyno issues. start at the lowest effective dose per profiles and only work up if neccessary. estrogen is condusive to gains, but needs to be balanced with gyno concerns. Note, if you are combining your test with deca or other nandrolones, the SERMs nolva/clomid/ralox are not an option for gyno prevention.

2) yes you can gain on non-aromatizing compounds, but other than Tren or anadrol (which are NOT for a beginner) nothing will build mass like aromatizing test/dbol. (btw anadrol is a strange case because while non-aromatizing, it apparantly acts as an estrogen agonist natively)

3) see #1

thanks very much bro ,ya i know that i can use lower possible dose of letro or armidex which i did in my first cycle.by trial and error i knew that my lowest dose of letro is far more then what others use ,i was taking 1.5 mg which is far much.but i also know that i should use some testosterone for being mentally fit.here is what i came up with for my next cycle that will be
primo 400 mg/week
test propionate 200 mg/week or boldenone 400 mg/week
anavar or winstrol .while keeping nolvadex on hand.iam not expecting huge gains on this cycle but atleast noticeable gains.

 

[sandy444]

any more advices ???

 

[rockdoc]

thanks very much bro ,ya i know that i can use lower possible dose of letro or armidex which i did in my first cycle.by trial and error i knew that my lowest dose of letro is far more then what others use ,i was taking 1.5 mg which is far much.but i also know that i should use some testosterone for being mentally fit.here is what i came up with for my next cycle that will be
primo 400 mg/week
test propionate 200 mg/week or boldenone 400 mg/week
anavar or winstrol .while keeping nolvadex on hand.iam not expecting huge gains on this cycle but atleast noticeable gains.

The way this post is worded, it sounds like the debate is between Test and EQ. Keep the Test in the cycle no matter what, the debate should be between Primo and EQ. I'd say Primo's your best bet since it acts as an anti-estrogen anyway. Your dosages are good for your expectations.

 

[sandy444]

thanks bro ,but i was thinking of not adding test and going with primo anavar and winny .i would be taking
primo 600 mg/week
anavar 60mg
winny injections 50 mg