Hell yeh man I dont think thats true bodybuilding, and im sure thats debatable BUT to me its the old guys like arnie and the mentzers. Small waists,very vascular and still big! just not walking refrigerators. They looked good! to me thats what bbing is small waists with a V frame and big muscles just not 300lbs in contest shape unless ur like gunter who is 6'1 and can pull it off a little better but not much more.