Good pre contest cutting cycle

[Anotech]

Hey guys, I'm competing in my first show next year so I'm training this year as though I'm competing this year, make sense?

So right now I'm bulking (offseason)
1-12 sust250 (250mg E4D)
1-10 Deca (200mg E4D)
1-4 Dbol (40mg ED)

Cutting (onseason)

1-16 Test E (200mg E4D)
1-12 Tren E (250mg E4D)
1-4 Winstrol (40mg ED)
12-16 Anavar (50mg ED)
1-16 Prov (25mg ED)

AI- armidex

Pct clomid & HCG

 

[gymjunkie09]

Hey guys, I'm competing in my first show next year so I'm training this year as though I'm competing this year, make sense?

So right now I'm bulking (offseason)
1-12 sust250 (250mg E4D)
1-10 Deca (200mg E4D)
1-4 Dbol (40mg ED)

Cutting (onseason)

1-16 Test E (200mg E4D)
1-12 Tren E (250mg E4D)
1-4 Winstrol (40mg ED)
12-16 Anavar (50mg ED)
1-16 Prov (25mg ED)

AI- armidex

Pct clomid & HCG

looks good, i would use the HCG during the cycle and clomid along with the post cycle/unleashed combo for pct and bump the proviron to 50mg ed min and start it week 5 after the winny, although i would would run primo and drop the winny all together, stuff works magic for retaining gains when in a calorie defitcit...i probably would change that avatar too but that just me lol....jk bro

 

[RickRock13]

How much time are you planning on having between these two cycles? (Just curious)

The layout of your cycles do look pretty good to me for your goals though. Make sure to have supports on cycle, an AI, and caber for the tren and deca


PCT needs to be more than Clomid and HCG also.

Clomid
Post cycle
Unleashed
Formastanozol
DAA (optional)

 

[Anotech]

How much time are you planning on having between these two cycles? (Just curious)

The layout of your cycles do look pretty good to me for your goals though. Make sure to have supports on cycle, an AI, and caber for the tren and deca


PCT needs to be more than Clomid and HCG also.

Clomid
Post cycle
Unleashed
Formastanozol
DAA (optional)

Probably 1 month in between so I don't lose my gains from my bulk

 

[RickRock13]

Probably 1 month in between so I don't lose my gains from my bulk

Yeh, I was afraid you would say that. You really need more time in between than that. You should be at homeostasis longer than a month. I would wait at least a couple months after PCT is finished before starting again. Just my 2 cents

 

[gymjunkie09]

would suggest you run the orals in the start

Anavar-Oxandrolone - iSteroids.com

another solid piece of advice from the isteroids rep lol...did you even read his post? he has
winny at the front end so he is running his orals in the front.....wtf

 

[Anotech]

another solid piece of advice from the isteroids rep lol...did you even read his post? he has
winny at the front end so he is running his orals in the front.....wtf

Yeah lol.. Solid.. I'm running it there because of its anabolic factor to increase strength gains to help with the workout intensity and var on the back end to harden the muscle up (approaching this cycle like its a show)

 

[auslifter90]

Yeah lol.. Solid.. I'm running it there because of its anabolic factor to increase strength gains to help with the workout intensity and var on the back end to harden the muscle up (approaching this cycle like its a show)

honestly man, i would run the var first and run the winny for the back end, unless youve already run the two seperately and were happier with the look on var. because for me personally winstrol is number 1 and a lot of bodybuilders will be on winstrol only even on comp day


also a question for you, have you used proviron before? is 25mg enough to make a noticeable difference? theyre quite expensive for me to get but if 25mg is enough then one a day is not so bad. 50mg obviously costs twice as much and isnt worth it lol

 

[infraredline]

Hey guys, I'm competing in my first show next year so I'm training this year as though I'm competing this year, make sense?

So right now I'm bulking (offseason)
1-12 sust250 (250mg E4D)
1-10 Deca (200mg E4D)
1-4 Dbol (40mg ED)

Cutting (onseason)

1-16 Test E (200mg E4D)
1-12 Tren E (250mg E4D)
1-4 Winstrol (40mg ED)
12-16 Anavar (50mg ED)
1-16 Prov (25mg ED)

AI- armidex

Pct clomid & HCG

I would swap the winny with mast e and run it weeks 4-12 and there isn't really any need to run test longer then 12 weeks and like Rick said you need to wait longer between cycles typically the rule is take as much or more time off as you are on, if you are trying to hold onto gains give ghrp-6 cjc no dac a go start em at the beginning of your bulk and run them continuously, dose them at 1mcg per kg of body weight and take it upon waking, pwo, and pre bed

 

[Texas Monster]

Take more time off between cycles.

You are gonna run deca which is pretty powerfull stuff, Then wait only 1 month and run tren?

In terms of your recovery it does not make sense at all. It will take longer than 1 month to be healed from deca then starting a tren cycle for longer than 10 weeks......All i have to say is that once you come off the second cycle you will loose everything from both cycles.

Good luck to you though but I can guarantee if you cycle both cycles that close together when you come off the second you will either be needing HRT or some very very strong will power.