Good old fashion advice

[Bigbossman26]

Got this on hand.. What's your opinions on cycling it..
60 10mg dbol
10 10ml/250mg Test E
1 10ml/200mg tren a
1 10ml/200mg mast e
And nolva, clomid and amiridex on hand.

35 Y/O, 5'11" 195lbs. lifting on and off for 15 years, steady last 4. 3 or 4 previous cycles with just test e. Looking to lean bulk. Started with 300 a week first, 400 then 500 etc..

 

[maccy]

I'd just run test e 12wks n add winny on the backend, can kickstart with dbol.

"obsessed is what the lazy call the motivated"

 

[Bigbossman26]

Thanks, wanted to work in either tren or masteron though, no winny on hand.

 

[Xandoz]

I would run the testosterone for 12 weeks at 500 milligrams a week and thats it. Make sure you PCT and use your Arimidex during your cycle too.

 

[moya]

You don't have enough mast for it to me much use bro... If your dbol is legit you could dose it at 20mg/day... Tren is a bit much for your experience...but you don't really have enough of that either for a proper course... I'm wondering why you purchased the gear without setting up the cycle first...

 

[bonacris]

Got this on hand.. What's your opinions on cycling it..
60 10mg dbol
10 10ml/250mg Test E
1 10ml/200mg tren a
1 10ml/200mg mast e
And nolva, clomid and amiridex on hand.

35 Y/O, 5'11" 195lbs. lifting on and off for 15 years, steady last 4. 3 or 4 previous cycles with just test e. Looking to lean bulk. Started with 300 a week first, 400 then 500 etc..

Keep the tren and mast for another cycle.. you don't have enough mast and tren is a bit advanced just yet..

Have you got hcg or Hcgenerate?

Clomid and nolva are old school pct there are much better OTC supplements that are designed exactly for the purpose of recovery

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[Bigbossman26]

I got it all the gear from a family member (free) all gtg. That's why it's a random assortment. Never dealt with hcg or hcgenerate.

 

[dvoted]

Considering this is his 5th cycle, wouldn't tren be fine, however, you NEED to do your research. Look up what ancillaries to run, the sides faced with tren.

Tren could be run at 250mgs a week for 8 weeks. (Sometimes more isn't better) but this is my 2 cent.s I havent touched tren, and not planning to till by 4th - 5th cycle.

Edit: Just to help you IF you are going to run tren, beware of the prolactin issues. So you will need Caber whilst on cycle, don't think of running tren without it.

Hcgenerate could be purchased from www.needtobuildmuscle.com.
Also, whats with the increase increments of the test dosages? why not just keep it at a stable 500mgs a week.

Btw, what dose did you run your last cycles on?

DO NOT RUN NOLVA, there is no need, plus a 19-nor like tren should never be run with nolva, your asking for issues.

On Cycle
HCgenerate
AI
Caber

PCT
clomid 25/25/25/25
Formastane
Unleashed + Post Cycle

 

[Nelson Montana]

I believe with the addition of some good supps, you got yourself the making of a decent little cycle. But ditch the nolva.

 

[stevesmi]

3 or 4 previous cycles. did u run bloods or are you just guessing if you are recovered from those?

 

[Bigbossman26]

I'm going to save the tren and mast and just start with 20mg of dbol ed for a kick start and do 500 test. Didn't know much about caber, but it seems to be a requirement. First cycle was test 300mg a week/qp weekend, next was 400mg/wk for 12 weeks last was 500 wk for 12. I didn't pct first cycle, then used otc for last two. Wife is an RN who's had blood tested and nothing out of the ordinary. I never had any sides during the previous cycles either.

So now my question is, AI during the cycle or only if side occur and how quick does amiridex get it under control should I wait for symptoms. The more you read the more you're confused.

 

[dvoted]

Run it whilst regardless. Prevention is better than the cure. Do your test for 12 weeks, dbol for 4 -6 weeks
have n2guard on hand, as it will help your liver.
Your PCT's were crap! your gonna get flamed hard! but whats done is done
Yeah sure your bloods might be "fine" but what were to levels BEFORE you cycle?

On Cycle:
HCgenerate (will make recovery easier, and allow you to not be fully shut down on cycle)
N2guard
AI throughout

PCT:
Clomid 25/25/25/25
Unleashed/Postcycle
Formastane

 

[joeblow12345]

I'm going to save the tren and mast and just start with 20mg of dbol ed for a kick start and do 500 test. Didn't know much about caber, but it seems to be a requirement. First cycle was test 300mg a week/qp weekend, next was 400mg/wk for 12 weeks last was 500 wk for 12. I didn't pct first cycle, then used otc for last two. Wife is an RN who's had blood tested and nothing out of the ordinary. I never had any sides during the previous cycles either.

So now my question is, AI during the cycle or only if side occur and how quick does amiridex get it under control should I wait for symptoms. The more you read the more you're confused.

If you've already ran test at 500 and did well then if go 750 a week. As far as everything else goes you don't have enough of anything to really make it worth using. I wouldn't bother with 20 mg dbol a day. That just gonna give you unnecessary bloat and gyno symptoms with little payoff. The dbol will absolutely require an on cycle ai as it aromatizes heavily. More so then most other orals. So I suggest a low dose adex and some dspark if you choose to use it. Which like I said will give you all the sides but hardly any of the benefits. Either get more or save it. As far as test goes, unless your highly prone to gyno a small dose of adex should suffice. With 750 mg I may use 0.5 mg adex once every 4 days or so. At 500 mg or less I may use 0.25 mg once every 4-7 days at most. You just have to feel it out and when you get symptoms hit the ai. The important thing is not to crush the estrogen or your gains and libido will disappear. On the other side if it gets to high the same will happen so find a happy medium.

 

[dvoted]

If you've already ran test at 500 and did well then if go 750 a week. As far as everything else goes you don't have enough of anything to really make it worth using. I wouldn't bother with 20 mg dbol a day. That just gonna give you unnecessary bloat and gyno symptoms with little payoff. The dbol will absolutely require an on cycle ai as it aromatizes heavily. More so then most other orals. So I suggest a low dose adex and some dspark if you choose to use it. Which like I said will give you all the sides but hardly any of the benefits. Either get more or save it. As far as test goes, unless your highly prone to gyno a small dose of adex should suffice. With 750 mg I may use 0.5 mg adex once every 4 days or so. At 500 mg or less I may use 0.25 mg once every 4-7 days at most. You just have to feel it out and when you get symptoms hit the ai. The important thing is not to crush the estrogen or your gains and libido will disappear. On the other side if it gets to high the same will happen so find a happy medium.

if somethings not broke, why fix it?

if his doing fine on 500 mg a week then why up it to 750?
sure he might frow a lil more, but the sides will just increase.

 

[joeblow12345]

if somethings not broke, why fix it?

if his doing fine on 500 mg a week then why up it to 750?
sure he might frow a lil more, but the sides will just increase.

I never said it was broke I just feel the gains are better and the sides aren't an issue at that dose. Test is very mild side wise up until a point and 750 is well within that point.

 

[dvoted]

I never said it was broke I just feel the gains are better and the sides aren't an issue at that dose. Test is very mild side wise up until a point and 750 is well within that point.

Yeah.true

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