Going pro... Need some advice.

[the small soldier]

might i suggest powerlifting as a start will certainly make you stronger and hunger. It'll be a good place to build some mass and you can always diet down later.

 

[the small soldier]

6'0 , 178lbs and 15% BF.

I'd say those stats would fit most normal weight 26yr olds who don't lift weights at all and definitely not a guy with 3 cycles under his belt saying he wants to go pro! You need to get yourself together, get a proper diet and a good training plan, get off gear and train natty for a few years to get somewhere.

I am not even close to becoming a pro yet and I have been training consistently for 10+ years now. I got to 190lbs competition weight without using any drugs at all. After that I decided to start slowly incorporating AAS into my routine. I did 2 cycles that year, both were plain and simple 500mgs of testosterone per week, and I shot up to 220lbs that year while ending up leaner than before I started the cycles. Just thought that might tell you something and maybe it would be wise to reconsider your strategy because I have a feeling that this is going to be one helluva sad story for you

I think that point might be debatable! turning pro is a very subjective and political thing (or seems to be from what I've seen) There are tons of great looking amateurs(yourself) and some very unsightly pros. A lot of it seems to be right place right time, right show, right judge kind of factors.

 

[t27]

wait a minute there...

Saying "pro" - i meant - making my diet/cycle professional.... I did not think even for a second to compete - it's really not something i'm interested in.

All I want is a way to improve everything to a professional plan that will help me get the best results.
I just want to look better not to be huge and compete.

People need to read what i wrote and what are my goals before judging... i wrote exactly what I want to achieve - lower body fat, loose lower body fat.

About 1200 cals and growing - As i said i'm not insanely growing, but I am growing... not looking into being huge.

I am carb sensitive - so when on even little carbs I gain fat real quick.

So, again, I want to get below 10% BF, loose my stubborn fat - and in order to do so I need your help improving my cycle (if It's not fitting my goals...) and diet if it's also not fitting anything.

 

[stevesmi]

^^^^ if you just want to lose body fat then steroids won't do anything for you. lots of cardio and a very strict diet will do it.

but then you will be 6 feet and 150 pounds.. i think everyone is just trying to give you some perspective. the cycles you have run haven't done anything for you so its obvious your problem isn't what cycle to run its what cardio to do and what diet to go with.

so again, i ask you to post up your workouts and your diet and lets see what we can work on.

when you post "going pro" people are gonna think it means you want to compete, its an easy mis-understanding so don't be offended by it.

i still don't get why someone who is your height and weight would want to get even skinnier. maybe post up a pic cause I am truely lost here.. either you have very little or no muscle on your frame and you just have fat, or you are just being hard on yourself. i have a buddy who is your height and weighs 12 pounds more than you and he is still a carrot so a pic would definately help everyone see where you are coming from

 

[obsessedwliftin]

agree. He should be starting to diet down from around 15%. lol

Im not a fan of the physique guys, but the ones I have seen that actually do well, are F-in shredded!!! single digits for sure

Agreed. I am competing masters physique and can tell you if you aren't sub 10 dont bother. Hate for you to get blown off stage by a 40 yr old. Lmao!

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[sojoocy]

Dude at no point do you ever have to have your calories that low :/ find your maintenance, drop it 500 cals, sheesh starving yourself isn't the answer and if you've done similar with your other 3 cycles you've wasted them, eat like a king while on and a fair while after bro!

 

[burnthiscorpse]

^^^^ if you just want to lose body fat then steroids won't do anything for you. lots of cardio and a very strict diet will do it.

but then you will be 6 feet and 150 pounds.. i think everyone is just trying to give you some perspective. the cycles you have run haven't done anything for you so its obvious your problem isn't what cycle to run its what cardio to do and what diet to go with.

so again, i ask you to post up your workouts and your diet and lets see what we can work on.

when you post "going pro" people are gonna think it means you want to compete, its an easy mis-understanding so don't be offended by it.

i still don't get why someone who is your height and weight would want to get even skinnier. maybe post up a pic cause I am truely lost here.. either you have very little or no muscle on your frame and you just have fat, or you are just being hard on yourself. i have a buddy who is your height and weighs 12 pounds more than you and he is still a carrot so a pic would definately help everyone see where you are coming from

^^^^ this right here.

When I started at age 21 I was 6'0" 170. I was a fucking twig. I was an asshole and did a cycle cause i didnt know any better (this was way before EF) and I ended up doing a major recomp. Not on purpose, just because i wasnt eating enough. Yes I looked WAY better. But it was a waste of geat and I was still skinny.
6'0" and 178 is skinny no matter how you slice it. Cut down to single digit BF% and you'll look like Ally Mcbeal.

 

[RickRock13]

All the advice here so far has been great. As everyone pointed out, really you need training and diet structure...not steroids to reach your goal.

 

[-SD-]

No such thing as a professional diet. Its whatever works for you for whatever goals you have