Global cooling

[lartinos]

I've always called bullshit on people who call bullshit on global warming. It's normal to give merit to that which is unanimously agreed upon by scientists everywhere, for example.

You mean "most" scientists right bro?

 

[lartinos]

The counter argument I heard from a scientist is that the polar ice caps along with currents are just infact what will cause an eventual cooling trend. These warming and cooling trends have been around long before man. Basically the melting of the caps "cools" the water temperature around the world which in turn causes climactic changes of course. Alot simplier and not as fancy I guess so people don't like that explanation.

 

[jaybois]

Your views on the topic?

To tell ya the truth Samoth,i don't know what to believe.
Regardless, what ever it takes to get us to be totaly renewable ,energy independent,recycling, what have you, is nothing but a good thing.

 

[EnderJE]

if the climate is shown as a function, would the effects of the sun and cosmic rays be x^300y^250 and auto emissions be a second degree variable? I don't know. I opt for being proactive by conserving energy, reducing pollution, etc.

But i do not condone the radical leftist views of the kyoto accord.

Really, i think environmental science is a relatively new field and is troubled by not having codified rules, theorum and hypotheses.

I also think both sides of the political aisle have attempted to use science to achieve their own aggrandizement.

+ 1, +10, +1, +1000000000

 

[manny78]

I too those pics at home in dec. 07 - jan. 08 and lemme tell you something, there aint no global warming around here lol

 

[jaybois]

I too those pics at home in dec. 07 - jan. 08 and lemme tell you something, there aint no global warming around here lol

God i love winter.

 

[mrplunkey]

Really? I haven't heard of that one. Do you know what chemicals?

One common thing is to drill x meters into the glaciers and test CO2 amounts that form over decades and centuries. But in the same way that gas/CO2 bubbles form, they could HPLC for other stuff as well.

And to emphasize once again: global warming is a misnomer. It's about global extremes, in which heating is but one manifestation.

Over a very long period of time, shouldn't polar ice thickness be a random walk process anyway? So if you drilled deep enough into the ice, you'd find the depth where the process had not "walked" since the industrial age?

 

[samoth]

You mean "most" scientists right bro?

So few scientists deny climate change that you can assume all.

The debates are what's causing the bulk of climate change and to what degree humans are playing.

No one out there is saying that nothing is happening. Maybe you hear stuff on internet news sites or from scientist blogs or something, but in the real world of science and journals, no one is denying that stuff's happening.

 

[lartinos]

So few scientists deny climate change that you can assume all.

The debates are what's causing the bulk of climate change and to what degree humans are playing.

No one out there is saying that nothing is happening. Maybe you hear stuff on internet news sites or from scientist blogs or something, but in the real world of science and journals, no one is denying that stuff's happening.

I'm sure humans can have some effect, just maybe a bit overblown though.

 

[samoth]

I'm sure humans can have some effect, just maybe a bit overblown though.

Why do you say that?

Have you jumped on a university site or something with access to scientific journals?

Seriously, take a look. Ignore the media and politics. The science is all that matters, and it's rather interesting. A degree or two makes a big difference in the north atlantic conveyer. Water -- the oceans -- have huge heat capacities.

It's not whether or not it's snowing in Canada that matters to GW, it's the bigger stuff.