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Girlfriend layed down an ultimatum...about AAS

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She knew, or she at least always suspected I had been juicing. I guess her uncle was a heavy AAS user and has a whole bunch of complications from it and is in bad shape now.

I dont know what possessed me the other day, somehow they got brought up and I ended up telling her. Sometimes in some situations I just cant help but be honest about things. She told me she had a good idea that I had done them in the past but didnt think I was 'weak' enough to still be doing them. We went onto discuss body issues and what not.

She basically said that I can do whatever I want, but if I do them she's not gonna be with me. She doesnt want to go through health issues down the road and any other thing that might become a problem with using AAS.

I cant convince her otherwise...I care too much about her...I'm in quite a predicament here.
 
jh1 said:
Welcome the lastest addition to EF's SWV club.
lol no shit
2 months bro, farr to soon to be making such ultimatiums.
if you knew for certain this was the gal you'd be spending your life with, then I'd take an honest look at your drug use and see if it's worth losing someone over.
but since you have no idea if this is the "one" (no one knows that after 2 months) then I wouldn't sweat it.
if i were you, i'd continue saucing incognito untill you figure for sure this is the broad for marriage
 
ughhh, never tell a g/f ur doing something illegal. sounds like she's dead set against it. is she living with you yet?
 
blut wump said:
Often worth watching again. :)

UA, tough situation. First decide whether you are prepared to give up steroids and take it from there.

The HBO special is awesome, I've seen it before. But nothing I could show her would convince her otherwise cause of what she saw her uncle go through (I have my doubts as to AAS being the sole cause).

I thought about juicing incognito, but how's that gonna work? She really can read me like a book and said she's noticed changes in my attitude etc. We started dating when I was off, then I got back on a couple weeks ago.

this shit is irritating.
 
Once you have kids the risks outweigh the benefits. Even when your married, going to jail or engaging in an expensive legal battle isn't something your wife will enjoy. Not to mention how it would effect the kids. That's why I stopped using.

BTW, what do you get out of it and why is it worth it? You can have an outrageous body without it, just not as jacked.
 
I'm not trying to be a tough guy here, but honestly, you have to either stop and be with her, or tell her she isn't going to control you and risk losing her.

She may very well leave you if you do it, but whats more important to you, the gear or her? 2 months is not long enough for her to be giving rules like that. Shoot, my wife doesn't even do that to me. Again, not trying to be an an internet tough guy here, but I make my own decisions. I take her view into SERIOUS consideration, but I am my own man and I will decide what is right for me.
 
rykertest said:
I'm not trying to be a tough guy here, but honestly, you have to either stop and be with her, or tell her she isn't going to control you and risk losing her.

She may very well leave you if you do it, but whats more important to you, the gear or her? 2 months is not long enough for her to be giving rules like that. Shoot, my wife doesn't even do that to me. Again, not trying to be an an internet tough guy here, but I make my own decisions. I take her view into SERIOUS consideration, but I am my own man and I will decide what is right for me.

she didnt lay down any rules per say. She said she's just not gonna potentially deal with this stuff again down the road.

no, she's not living with me

yeah, you would think the backne would give it away, haha.
 
Her concerns about long term health issues are legitimate, unless you forgot AAS were drugs with long term effects.
 
superdave said:
Her concerns about long term health issues are legitimate, unless you forgot AAS were drugs with long term effects.

I got nothing on that, she knows it too.

Think it would be a bad idea to tell her I was gonna finish my cycle then be done with it forever??
 
UA_Iron said:
I got nothing on that, she knows it too.

Think it would be a bad idea to tell her I was gonna finish my cycle then be done with it forever??

lol is that anywhere near the truth?

what are your goals? how much more jackedness do you want?
 
jackangel said:
lol is that anywhere near the truth?

what are your goals? how much more jackedness do you want?

I've been thinking about that a lot

I have a lot of job interviews coming up - entering into the professional world. I cant be a bloated red faced monster within the technical world.

I think back to the time before I started juicing, how dedicated I was, diet and lifting. Now its just easier on AAS.
 
Lie to her. Do what you want, and then tell her what she wants to hear.
 
Mr. dB said:
Lie to her. Do what you want, and then tell her what she wants to hear.

I told you, she can read me like a book.

plus I run a lot of gear anymore, its obvious when i'm on.
 
why are you juicing again? are you in a line of work that requires you to be as fit as possible? does your supplement endorsement depend on it? will your modeling shoots dry up if you stop?

if these don't apply to you, why continue juicing?
 
Never let a woman (or anybody for that matter) tell you what you should or shouldn't do. Did she know you were doin that before hand?
 
rudeboyja said:
Never let a woman (or anybody for that matter) tell you what you should or shouldn't do. Did she know you were doin that before hand?

if you wanna be solo forever then this is the attitude to adopt
sure brining home randoms is fun...but eventually you'll find yourself lonely.
as gaye as it sounds, true relationships take compromise and listening to your partner.
the tough guy take no shit from my wimmen routine is fun when your young, but it doesn't work when you are a bit older
 
When this bitch is long gone with a different dude, youre gonna wish your priority was to be true to yourself! There are plenty of beutiful women that will love and support you regardless,and maybe even give you your injections! She is testing you to see how much control she has. when she realizes you are her bitch, she will grow bored and be fucking someone else.
 
Gambino said:
if you wanna be solo forever then this is the attitude to adopt
sure brining home randoms is fun...but eventually you'll find yourself lonely.
as gaye as it sounds, true relationships take compromise and listening to your partner.
the tough guy take no shit from my wimmen routine is fun when your young, but it doesn't work when you are a bit older


point observed, but the fact is she didn't communicate to him about what she didn't like, she threw down the gauntlet.
 
rudeboyja said:
point observed, but the fact is she didn't communicate to him about what she didn't like, she threw down the gauntlet.

no she said it before I admitted anything that she didnt like AAS or drugs for that matter. She's had druggie bf's before and she says there's nothing worse than them hiding from it you etc.
 
UA_Iron said:
I told you, she can read me like a book.

plus I run a lot of gear anymore, its obvious when i'm on.
If you run a lot of gear its probably going to impact you long term, just the nature of the beast. I just saw the part where youve only been seeing her a couple months so in that case tell her to deal with it or leave, or you drop the juice and stay with her.
 
UA_Iron said:
She knew, or she at least always suspected I had been juicing. I guess her uncle was a heavy AAS user and has a whole bunch of complications from it and is in bad shape now.

I dont know what possessed me the other day, somehow they got brought up and I ended up telling her. Sometimes in some situations I just cant help but be honest about things. She told me she had a good idea that I had done them in the past but didnt think I was 'weak' enough to still be doing them. We went onto discuss body issues and what not.

She basically said that I can do whatever I want, but if I do them she's not gonna be with me. She doesnt want to go through health issues down the road and any other thing that might become a problem with using AAS.

I cant convince her otherwise...I care too much about her...I'm in quite a predicament here.


I don't have a really good answer that is specific to you but I will say this:

Superdave makes a valid point.

Ultimatums are not acceptable period EVER - they damage relationships, however, a discussion and a mutually agreeable decision is acceptable.

If you change for her make sure you are changing for you as well because the second you don't feel good about yourself or regret your choice you will blame her and that will also damage the relationship.


Good Luck
 
UA_Iron said:
no she said it before I admitted anything that she didnt like AAS or drugs for that matter. She's had druggie bf's before and she says there's nothing worse than them hiding from it you etc.


I think it says a lot about a person who can make the tough decisions and not look back.. You should not be held accounted for anything any of her past dudes did to her.

Do whatever makes you happy. yeah compromise is necessary, but I know to many people in relationships that resent their other because of the things they can't do anymore
 
velvett said:
Ultimatums are not acceptable period EVER - they damage relationships, however, a discussion and a mutually agreeable decision is acceptable.




Good Luck

so i take it you've never been with someone that has drug/booze problems.
it sucks
but their is no compromise, esp with heavy drinking
or with chronic drug abuse
their is no middle ground or mutal agreement
 
UA_Iron said:
She knew, or she at least always suspected I had been juicing. I guess her uncle was a heavy AAS user and has a whole bunch of complications from it and is in bad shape now.

I dont know what possessed me the other day, somehow they got brought up and I ended up telling her. Sometimes in some situations I just cant help but be honest about things. She told me she had a good idea that I had done them in the past but didnt think I was 'weak' enough to still be doing them. We went onto discuss body issues and what not.

She basically said that I can do whatever I want, but if I do them she's not gonna be with me. She doesnt want to go through health issues down the road and any other thing that might become a problem with using AAS.

I cant convince her otherwise...I care too much about her...I'm in quite a predicament here.
your a dummy for telling

if u dont see urself marrying ehr then tell her to fuck off,

if u see urself married to her and see her not dicking u over in the future then give it up if ur willing to

if she asks u to give this up it might be a controlthing and shell expect u to give up other stuff for her, dont let her tool u around,

i personally think its silly of her to give u an ultimatum like that
 
UA_Iron said:
The HBO special is awesome, I've seen it before. But nothing I could show her would convince her otherwise cause of what she saw her uncle go through (I have my doubts as to AAS being the sole cause).

I thought about juicing incognito, but how's that gonna work? She really can read me like a book and said she's noticed changes in my attitude etc. We started dating when I was off, then I got back on a couple weeks ago.

this shit is irritating.
she definately is bullshitting about the attitude changes. she probably got pissed off at something u did and automatically labeled it to AAS use once u told her.

i bet in the future ull do something she wont like and shell be like "WTF ARE U ON THE JUICE AGAIN"

and then u can be like "why are u being a bitch, are u on ur period"

and then get devorced/break up.

its already over IMO
 
SublimeZM said:
she definately is bullshitting about the attitude changes. she probably got pissed off at something u did and automatically labeled it to AAS use once u told her.

i bet in the future ull do something she wont like and shell be like "WTF ARE U ON THE JUICE AGAIN"

and then u can be like "why are u being a bitch, are u on ur period"

and then get devorced/break up.

its already over IMO
PRetty much. Based on her past experiences with boyfriends on drugs she will be quick to blame the gear on every little problem, whether it caused it or or not.
 
p0ink said:
why are you juicing again? are you in a line of work that requires you to be as fit as possible? does your supplement endorsement depend on it? will your modeling shoots dry up if you stop?

if these don't apply to you, why continue juicing?
its funny cause i bet shell be like "im glad your off blah blah blah"

like a year down the road u wont be as jacked or lean and shell be like

"remember when u used to be huge and lean, i sorta miss that"

and u will be like "uhhh fuck"
 
Gambino said:
so i take it you've never been with someone that has drug/booze problems.
it sucks
but their is no compromise, esp with heavy drinking
or with chronic drug abuse
their is no middle ground or mutal agreement

Maybe I should have been more detailed in my answer...

Sometimes women, especially early in relationships, give ultimatums because their mommie and daddy or their peers taught them by example that if someone does something that they didn't want to do because you told them to it "or else" they love you.

It's a f*ked way of thinking but it's true.

Just wait til a girl tells you who you are allowed to be friends with and who you are allowed to hang out with not in her company if you are allowed out alone at all or she will leave you or better yet leave you and take your children.


I should have also included that lying is not acceptable in a relationship either.

And I think its safe to make a blanket statement that drug addicts are typically liars.


If UA wants to give up the gear it must be expressed to her that he agrees that the usage is not necessary or no longer warranty at this time of his life and that he is not giving it up because she is threatening to leave but because he has come to the very same conclusion for his own reasons. (IE: standards and/or boundaries)

If you want to compare it to a drug addict - you can not make an addict stop only they will seek out help for themselves.

That's really what I mean - that and if you start a relationship out giving in like that you set a standard that ultimatums are ok.

Hope that makes sense.
 
palehorse51 said:
When this bitch is long gone with a different dude, youre gonna wish your priority was to be true to yourself! There are plenty of beutiful women that will love and support you regardless,and maybe even give you your injections! She is testing you to see how much control she has. when she realizes you are her bitch, she will grow bored and be fucking someone else.
__++___!
 
SublimeZM said:
its funny cause i bet shell be like "im glad your off blah blah blah"

like a year down the road u wont be as jacked or lean and shell be like

"remember when u used to be huge and lean, i sorta miss that"

and u will be like "uhhh fuck"
and..."i miss the way you used to fuck me like an animal."
 
rudeboyja said:
I think it says a lot about a person who can make the tough decisions and not look back.. You should not be held accounted for anything any of her past dudes did to her.

Do whatever makes you happy. yeah compromise is necessary, but I know to many people in relationships that resent their other because of the things they can't do anymore
i agree. if u let her put that old shit on u ur gunna constantly be trying to make up for what her old bfs did to her and their faults, and in the end u didnt do shit wrong.

shes def trying to control u, my ex pulled similar shit about old bfs and i bought into it, but when u do that it just makes u the pussy nice guy who she fell back on and controlls for a while, and then gets bored with and moves on back to the bad bro badass to bang
 
you should teach her by becoming fat and dickless......"hey, it's what you wanted sweetie!!"... :rolleyes:



seriously though......if you're running alot of it so that she noticed mood changes, then maybe you should back off. But I don't think it's good to just give it up cold.......your body will probably plummett off a cliff for the first 6 months, which will make you WAY worse than even the heaviest tren cycle.
 
bro, when you come off and your own test levels are low and your libido is non existent and youre depressed and want to kill yourself, lets see how supportive she is. im sure she'll stick around to nurture and comfort you in your time of need! I mean, after all she doesnt sound self centered at all.........
 
SublimeZM said:
i agree. if u let her put that old shit on u ur gunna constantly be trying to make up for what her old bfs did to her and their faults, and in the end u didnt do shit wrong.

shes def trying to control u, my ex pulled similar shit about old bfs and i bought into it, but when u do that it just makes u the pussy nice guy who she fell back on and controlls for a while, and then gets bored with and moves on back to the bad bro badass to bang
dead on...........
 
redsamurai said:
you should teach her by becoming fat and dickless......"hey, it's what you wanted sweetie!!"... :rolleyes:

.
lol!
palehorse51 said:
bro, when you come off and your own test levels are low and your libido is non existent and youre depressed and want to kill yourself, lets see how supportive she is. im sure she'll stick around to nurture and comfort you in your time of need! I mean, after all she doesnt sound self centered at all.........
lol!
 
SublimeZM said:
i agree. if u let her put that old shit on u ur gunna constantly be trying to make up for what her old bfs did to her and their faults, and in the end u didnt do shit wrong.

shes def trying to control u, my ex pulled similar shit about old bfs and i bought into it, but when u do that it just makes u the pussy nice guy who she fell back on and controlls for a while, and then gets bored with and moves on back to the bad bro badass to bang
your girl cheated?
 
SublimeZM said:
i agree. if u let her put that old shit on u ur gunna constantly be trying to make up for what her old bfs did to her and their faults, and in the end u didnt do shit wrong.

shes def trying to control u, my ex pulled similar shit about old bfs and i bought into it, but when u do that it just makes u the pussy nice guy who she fell back on and controlls for a while, and then gets bored with and moves on back to the bad bro badass to bang


For someone that can't even get laid, ur one smart mf'r about women..
 
SublimeZM said:
she definately is bullshitting about the attitude changes. she probably got pissed off at something u did and automatically labeled it to AAS use once u told her.
TRUE!

SublimeZM said:
i bet in the future ull do something she wont like and shell be like "WTF ARE U ON THE JUICE AGAIN"

and then u can be like "why are u being a bitch, are u on ur period"

and then get devorced/break up.

its already over IMO
LOL!!!

TRUE!!!!
 
don't let her do that to you man
 
She said that she hates that she has to say that - she's made two other bf's stop weed and she said they held it against her the whole time. Her dad was a major pothead and is in the hospital right now recovering - he had a heart attack, they had to do a triple bypass and his lungs failed.

All these issues with other guys seem to be coming onto me.

But at the same time I want to be honest with everything I do and am willing to compromise in this situation cause I like her a lot.

It's only been 3 weeks into this cycle, my libido will hardly crash if at all.
 
UA_Iron said:
She said that she hates that she has to say that - she's made two other bf's stop weed and she said they held it against her the whole time. Her dad was a major pothead and is in the hospital right now recovering - he had a heart attack, they had to do a triple bypass and his lungs failed.

All these issues with other guys seem to be coming onto me.

But at the same time I want to be honest with everything I do and am willing to compromise in this situation cause I like her a lot.

It's only been 3 weeks into this cycle, my libido will hardly crash if at all.
Why does this chick keep choosing guys who do drugs if she just makes them quit? Seems its much easier to choose guys who arent doing things she is against to begin with. OH wait....I forgot this is a woman, my mistake! Im guessing its part of a pattern she uses to hold things above the guys head.
 
UA_Iron said:
She said that she hates that she has to say that - she's made two other bf's stop weed and she said they held it against her the whole time. Her dad was a major pothead and is in the hospital right now recovering - he had a heart attack, they had to do a triple bypass and his lungs failed.

All these issues with other guys seem to be coming onto me.

But at the same time I want to be honest with everything I do and am willing to compromise in this situation cause I like her a lot.

It's only been 3 weeks into this cycle, my libido will hardly crash if at all.
quit WEED@!?

unless she doesnt even drink then kick her to the curb, sounds like a whiney one
 
superdave said:
Why does this chick keep choosing guys who do drugs if she just makes them quit? Seems its much easier to choose guys who arent doing things she is against to begin with. OH wait....I forgot this is a woman, my mistake! Im guessing its part of a pattern she uses to hold things above the guys head.

well she didnt know I was juicing when I met her.

and true, she's the only thing constant in all her relationships.
 
i didn't read the entire thread... some good reponses from what i've seen on pg. 1-2


My answer: Find a fitness chick that juices too. Fuck like rabbits and be merry.


Unless you see yourself with her for a very long time, that's a tough decision.

Wow, i just read about the pattern this chick keeps changing guys and moving on... bro, if she's going to do this and find another reason to leave the relationship there's no point in doing it for her.

Ultimately, whatever you do has to be for you.
 
Sarge_ said:
i didn't read the entire thread... some good reponses from what i've seen on pg. 1-2


My answer: Find a fitness chick that juices too. Fuck like rabbits and be merry.


Unless you see yourself with her for a very long time, that's a tough decision.

thats where I met her, the gym - she is a fitness chick.
 
dude she just wants to make you stop like she did the other guys with their drugs, then she feels like she has control and has accomplished changin you she will move on.
 
hotzie said:
dude she just wants to make you stop like she did the other guys with their drugs, then she feels like she has control and has accomplished changin you she will move on.
word
 
UA_Iron said:
She knew, or she at least always suspected I had been juicing. I guess her uncle was a heavy AAS user and has a whole bunch of complications from it and is in bad shape now.

I dont know what possessed me the other day, somehow they got brought up and I ended up telling her. Sometimes in some situations I just cant help but be honest about things. She told me she had a good idea that I had done them in the past but didnt think I was 'weak' enough to still be doing them. We went onto discuss body issues and what not.

She basically said that I can do whatever I want, but if I do them she's not gonna be with me. She doesnt want to go through health issues down the road and any other thing that might become a problem with using AAS.

I cant convince her otherwise...I care too much about her...I'm in quite a predicament here.
well that'a easy bro drop the fucking juice! someone you cre about is way more important
 
I think her concern for your health is a good thing, if from the heart. It is very possible that her Uncle's problems are more diet and lifestyle based than aas usage. However, her mind seems to be set.

I also think it a good thing for you always to tell the truth. I'd rather suffer the consequences for that than lies.

I also see the replies that are concerned with who has control in the relationship. This gets tiresome. Does a man really need and want total control all the time? It is over rated and not necessary.

What to do?

Want to be a natural? No? Then do your cycles, tell the truth and let the chips fall where they will. Lead your life the way you want, but do it quietly without confrontation with her.

And start seeing other girls.
 
I'd tell her, I'm going to miss you.
 
UA_Iron said:
She said that she hates that she has to say that - she's made two other bf's stop weed and she said they held it against her the whole time. Her dad was a major pothead and is in the hospital right now recovering - he had a heart attack, they had to do a triple bypass and his lungs failed.

All these issues with other guys seem to be coming onto me.

But at the same time I want to be honest with everything I do and am willing to compromise in this situation cause I like her a lot.

It's only been 3 weeks into this cycle, my libido will hardly crash if at all.

bro i've noticed over the past few months you've come of age so to speak
the old nihlistic UA is slowly fading bro, you are leaving your old school ef buddies (string, chewy) in a classless wake
commendable
 
You can't change who you are. She will find other flaws and use them against you. She's already showing signs of psychosis. Tell her the door is right there and have a nice life.
 
what kind of cycle are you doing now? how long is it meant to be? test only, etc? low dosage? these are important questions and since i'm such an expert...lol. just curious.

i wouldn't end the cycle prematurely. finish it, esp. if it's an 8 or 12 week thing. use up what you have, unless you can sell off the rest, etc...at the least.

as for the larger picture...that depends on the character of your girl. it's easy for us to make assumptions...maybe she's controlling and unreasonable...we can't know. i don't like that she 'made' other dudes give up weed...i've run into the same thing. i wouldn't do something like that, unless for my own reasons.
 
jackangel said:
what kind of cycle are you doing now? how long is it meant to be? test only, etc? low dosage? these are important questions and since i'm such an expert...lol. just curious.

i wouldn't end the cycle prematurely. finish it, esp. if it's an 8 or 12 week thing. use up what you have, unless you can sell off the rest, etc...at the least.

as for the larger picture...that depends on the character of your girl. it's easy for us to make assumptions...maybe she's controlling and unreasonable...we can't know. i don't like that she 'made' other dudes give up weed...i've run into the same thing. i wouldn't do something like that, unless for my own reasons.

500mg Test E/week
1200mg EQ/week
various orals throughout
15 weeks

i was in my third week.

I can get rid of anything pretty easy - its not a problem.

She's an awesome girl for the most part, easy to get along with, we relate really well about most things. She's smokin' hot.
 
Just remember bro... if you choose to stop the juice, do it for yourself.

you can not hate her for it later down the road... because you, yourself made the decision.
 
stop calling her and when she gets all sad and insecure about why, calmly and without care say "you said we cant go out if i juice".

then she will come crawling back, or go fuck someone else to try and get back at u, but really ur the one who walked and pretended not to care, so in the end u win
 
God this fuggin thread got as queer as a healother thread....

Not I don't feel so bad about my 'divorce' threads at all...

Broham... WTF?
 
It's your body, you should have the right to do what you will with it. If she can't accept you the way you are, AAS and all, then what will be next?
 
I didnt read the entire thread but my humble .02 is this: either juice and dump her or stop juicing to please a woman that you don't really know.

Simple shmimple.

If she is THAT AWESOME then you wouldnt hesitate, you would just stop juicing period.
 
BIKINIMOM said:
I didnt read the entire thread but my humble .02 is this: either juice and dump her or stop juicing to please a woman that you don't really know.

Simple shmimple.

If she is THAT AWESOME then you wouldnt hesitate, you would just stop juicing period.
maybe she was that awsome before she gave him a gay ultimatum, and now that she did it hes questioning how awsome she is, moreso than whether or not to quit juicing
 
BIKINIMOM said:
I didnt read the entire thread but my humble .02 is this: either juice and dump her or stop juicing to please a woman that you don't really know.

Simple shmimple.

If she is THAT AWESOME then you wouldnt hesitate, you would just stop juicing period.


Holy Fuck... first thing I have ever read of yours that I actually agree with.

BM / JH1 common ground.

Shoot me.
 
jh1 said:
Holy Fuck... first thing I have ever read of yours that I actually agree with.

BM / JH1 common ground.

Shoot me.

Once you get passed the way a lot of peeps have painted me to be, I am pretty fucking awesome. LOL

...either that or hell MUST be freezing over. :qt:
 
SublimeZM said:
maybe she was that awsome before she gave him a gay ultimatum, and now that she did it hes questioning how awsome she is, moreso than whether or not to quit juicing

In the "honeymoon stages" of a relationship when we are putting our best foot forward we all think that our partner is awesome and then the other shoe drops.
 
BIKINIMOM said:
In the "honeymoon stages" of a relationship when we are putting our best foot forward we all think that our partner is awesome and then the other shoe drops.
truyf
 
UA_Iron said:
500mg Test E/week
1200mg EQ/week
various orals throughout
15 weeks

i was in my third week.

I can get rid of anything pretty easy - its not a problem.

She's an awesome girl for the most part, easy to get along with, we relate really well about most things. She's smokin' hot.


post up a pic, we are about the same age group
 
UA_Iron said:
She knew, or she at least always suspected I had been juicing. I guess her uncle was a heavy AAS user and has a whole bunch of complications from it and is in bad shape now.

I dont know what possessed me the other day, somehow they got brought up and I ended up telling her. Sometimes in some situations I just cant help but be honest about things. She told me she had a good idea that I had done them in the past but didnt think I was 'weak' enough to still be doing them. We went onto discuss body issues and what not.

She basically said that I can do whatever I want, but if I do them she's not gonna be with me. She doesnt want to go through health issues down the road and any other thing that might become a problem with using AAS.

I cant convince her otherwise...I care too much about her...I'm in quite a predicament here.

Well, the good news, you get to meet new women, she is not the one for you and your lifestyle..

and that is what aas and bodybuilding is...

if she is going to try and control your behavior in this, she will control more and more, before you know it...

you are buying her tampons for her..

good luck
 
superqt4u2nv said:
Dump her go for that athletic chic you told me about that one arm rows 90's that is my kinda chic. :D




What?!


pics and vids... Now!
 
UA_Iron said:
she's made two other bf's stop weed

There's your answer.

If you stay with her, be prepared for a miserable relationship/marriage.
 
Soon you can't look at hotties on tv. Tell her she need medication cause you think she's bipolar and she's the one in need of help.
 
She needs to really understand before she should make a damn judgement on this. Tell her before you will even consider quitting, she will have to listen and do the same research as you do and not put you in a catagory due to her uncle abusing. If in the end her thought process is the same and you still feel the same about her, then consider it. But I can't imagine 2mths into a relationship, not really knowing a damn thing about steriods besides her uncle's bad issues... and putting this out to you.

As far as the whole 'attitude' hype steroid bullshit... I say ..... pluease! I believe diet and intense training has more to do with the ups and downs. Hell... have you ever been around a chick that is on Atkins :worried:
 
Did you tell her you'd be nothing but a scrawny, nerdy, pencil-neck without the roids?

Perhaps that will persuade her.

:)
 
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