"Ghetto" workout?

[ghettostudmuffin]

Not every black guy you see walking around in the ghetto is bulging, Take a close look and you'll realize it's a small percentage of them that are actually impressive looking. Sure you may see alot of solid guys, but the ones that look like bodybuilders aren't standing around on every corner on every street.

 

[gjohnson5]

Dude, you have no clue as to what you are talking about. I never said white guys punking out brothas was the standard where I live. I don't even live in my old neighborhood anymore. Besides, it's not where you're from it's how you come. That applies to race too. I lived in Decatur, Georgia for a little over a year and I had NO problems with black guys and I lived in a predominantly black neighborhood. And don't even try to say Savannha is more ghetto than Decatur. There is crime every where you go. On my old street in 4 years 7 people where shot dead. Many, many more have been shot or stabbed, but not fatally. I have been jumped by 5 fuckin UBN samoans at once. I almost got jumped by like 20 of the craziest little asian bangers you'd ever want to mess with. Ya, you don't see many white guys gettin props because there probably aren't many white guys comparatively speaking growing up in your neighborhood. And the ones that do either keep their nose clean or get bitch, or get tough. My bro hightower( a solid 6'3" white guy) had respect from anyone I ever saw that met or new him. He grew up in a nice neighborhood as a kid, but moved to a bad neighborhood as a young teen. The guy was super cool, but crazy too. He minded his own, but you crossed him and it was your "MISTAKE". As for black people being more confrontational, well what do you expect? That has ALOT to do with environment and upbringing, not race. Typically, predominantly black neighborhoods are lower income. Less educated, less money. Not the best environment for raising well mannered, socially stable productive citizens now is it? Crime rate is higher. Death rate is higher. I do believe that it is rather obvious that physically, black people are genetically superior for certain forms of physical exercise. Do to prominent glutes generally, strong hamstrings and short calf muscles with long tendons, black people are typically capable of running faster and jumping higher than white people, or any other "people". Black people generally have lower bodyfat. Black people are generally darker than all other people. This makes sense from an evolutionary standpoint when you consider that carrying excess adipose tissue in the torso is bad for the body in high heat conditions like africa as it makes it harder for the body to regulate it's temperature. So it makes sense that structurally the best place for the bodyfat to go is the glutes, which is why black guys generally have larger/more muscular glutes at least initially than other races and why black girls have juicy booties. Seeing as how african people at least initially were primarily hunters and gatherers, it makes sense to be able to run fast and for long distances, hence the structurak adaptations over time. It also makes sense to have dark skin to protect yoursefl from the suns rays and keep yourself cooler. The exact opposites are true for white people. Generally, most so-called white people lived in more temperate climates and did not need to carry a low set bodyfat. Also, muscular glutes and short calves were not as necessary. Generally, considering that climactic conditions were colder, white people needed higher bodyfat and needed it distributed more evenly over the torso. Also, since it wasn't as hot and sunny all the time, developing dark skin was not necessary for survival and good health. This is all very general. Fascinating actually.

I've had to deal with a bunch of stupid crap for the last 2 days , but back to you ghetto white guy... Let's recap you very words in the post you made before this.

I'm gonna have to call bullshit on the black guys are more agressive than white guys thing. I grew up in the so called ghetto, or at least the lowest income predominantly black neighborhood in my city. What I learned is that alot of black guys "ACT" more agressive to impress and intimidate others. This is a fact. I know alot of white guys that do not act tough or agressive that could whoop the living criznap outta most agressive type black guys.

You said yourself that you do not live in the neighborhood you gre up in .. This means that you grew up in Washington and not Hotlanta, correct?
You say you know alot of white guys that can whoop the crap out of most "aggressive" black dudes. Who are these "white guys" and where did you know them? You most definitly seem to be insinuating that these "white guys" could punk out brothas anytime anywhere. Not that this is not possible , I just don't find it to be likely.

Let's analyze some more you your work shall we?

I lived in Decatur, Georgia for a little over a year and I had NO problems with black guys and I lived in a predominantly black neighborhood. And don't even try to say Savannha is more ghetto than Decatur.

So you've only been living in Georgia for a year... So this means you don't know jack shit about Decatur , or Savannah, correct? I think so.

As far as the rest of your post , I won't complain about it. Yo useem to "have a clue"

 

[gjohnson5]

Not every black guy you see walking around in the ghetto is bulging, Take a close look and you'll realize it's a small percentage of them that are actually impressive looking. Sure you may see alot of solid guys, but the ones that look like bodybuilders aren't standing around on every corner on every street.

Would you happen to have percentages of mesomorph's in both races?

 

[ghettostudmuffin]

Do I know what Percentages of mesomorphs's are in both races? Hmm, um, no I don't. Do YOU? You obviously must not have too many white friends, and if you do, they certainly aren't tough from the way you seem to think lol. It seems you think most white guys must be passive little tards. Just cuz you grew up in Savannha doesn't mean a thing. I said it before, I'll say it again, it's how ya come, not where ya from. Ya, there are tougher neighborhoods than other's, but there are tough guys in all neighborhoods. I said I know white guys that can and will punk brotha's lol. I didn't say it's every other white guy walking around. As far as not knowing jack about Decatur? Ya, I only lived there a year, but that doesn't mean I didn't get around and to be perfectly honest, I was not intimidated by what I saw. Same thing in my neighborhoods only maybe not quite as run down and crappy, but still crappy. You seem to think that only the South can have ghetto's or something by the way you talk. As if Seattle isn't tough or something lol. Well I've met a few guys with that attitude that lost it real quick around here lol. I'm not saying it's as GHETTO as parts of savannha or Decatur because it's not, but it's pretty damn shitty in some neighborhoods I used to live in. Muggings, beatdowns, knife fights, drive-bys are common. I take it you've never lived in Washington, so I take it you don't know diddly about WAshington, whereas I know at least something about the ATL, Hmm? Am I right? As for the white guys I know? Hmm? Where do I start. I know several guys that I used to take brazilian jiu-jitsu with that would cause alot of trouble for ANYONE. MY brother was a Crip and has lived in the worst neighborhood in Seattle since he was a kid and he gets respect. Nobody messes with him. Not saying he's super tough, but he's earned some respect. My buddy hightower was a super cool, but an absolute fuckin psycho if you messed with him. I saw him punk out some hard lookin bro's. I had another buddy that I used to hang out with that I met at my last job. Guy was a super mesomorph. Looked like CAsey Viator physically, just as rugged, but more aesthetic. Natural fuggin powerhouse of muscle and strength and I saw him knock guys off their feet. Literally sent them air-born with one shot. One time he got in a fight with a guy at a frat party and several of the frat guys were big ass football players and 10+ guys jumped on my bro and beat the crap out of him, but the whole time they were beating him, he was on top of the guy that pissed him off beating him. That guy's face looked like hamburger after and my buddy was seriously bruised and bloodied, but he stood up when the frat guys let off because the cops came. The whole time they beat on him he never crumbled over and never stopped pounding the other guy. That's the kind of shit you see in movies man. Probably the toughest, pound for pound naturally strongest guy(he hadn't lifted weights in 3 years since highschool and I coaxed him into going into the gym, the guy full squatted 315 no-no-no style easily, pulled a semi-stiff legged deadlift 405lbs, and seated strict dumbell pressed a pair of 85's for 12 reps. None of these were max performances as he could have lifted more. For a well trained consistent lifter these lifts aren't anything special, but for a first workout in years, that's just plain WRONG lol. This was easy for him and having not trained in 3 years and weighing a rock solid 205lbs at 5'10" impressed me more than anything I have ever seen) I've ever met and he was white. He had 2 buddies that were just crazy man. Brothers that frickin would not back down to anyone. Again, straight outta the movies kinda shit with these 2. I seen 1 of them chase a guy through heavy traffic on foot with a basebal bat and proceed to wail on the guy in the middle of moving heavy traffic, with no regard for it whatsoever. MY dad is one seriously tough SOB. 6 foot, and wiry as hell. He's been in 60+ street fights and he only lost a couple of them. His buddy is even tougher than him and a similar build and about as fast as you can imagine. Even at near 50 I saw him throw about 15+ punches in a few seconds. The guy is a walking tornado. My dad vouches for the guy saying he's been in over a 150+ fights back in his hometown in eastern Washington. One damn near all of them and he wasn't fighting wusses. He always got in fights with guys as big or bigger than him that looked tough. One time my dad and him got in an argument and my dad said something to him that pissed him off and while my dad was staring him straight in the eye he caught my dad with a straight right that he didn't even see coming it was so fast and knocked him off his feet. Now my dad's very strong in a wiry way and fast, but this guy totally outclassed him and he knew it. No more power plays after that day between them. I've got many more stories, but you get the idea. I have nothing against black guys. I had more black friends then white friends in high school. Several of my black friends were tough as nails and
I could tell some similar stories about the crazy stuff they did too. I just have a problem with you seeming to think that black guys are tougher or more virile then white men. Obviously your attitude in this is heavily influenced by your upbringing and where you grew up.

 

[gjohnson5]

Do I know what Percentages of mesomorphs's are in both races? Hmm, um, no I don't. Do YOU? You obviously must not have too many white friends, and if you do, they certainly aren't tough from the way you seem to think lol.

I currently (and am going to change soon) live in the heart of Illinois, 90% of the population is white. And no I could pimp slap them all and make them like it....

It seems you think most white guys must be passive little tards. Just cuz you grew up in Savannha doesn't mean a thing.

If I knew more of them who were "kewl" then I wouldn't think the way I do. BTW I folks live in Savannah. I grew up in da Big Easy.

I said it before, I'll say it again, it's how ya come, not where ya from. Ya, there are tougher neighborhoods than other's, but there are tough guys in all neighborhoods. I said I know white guys that can and will punk brotha's lol. I didn't say it's every other white guy walking around. As far as not knowing jack about Decatur? Ya, I only lived there a year, but that doesn't mean I didn't get around and to be perfectly honest, I was not intimidated by what I saw. Same thing in my neighborhoods only maybe not quite as run down and crappy, but still crappy. You seem to think that only the South can have ghetto's or something by the way you talk.

I've seen some of the "ghettos" here in Illinois and they make me laugh. Chicago has some real black neighborhoods though!

As if Seattle isn't tough or something lol. Well I've met a few guys with that attitude that lost it real quick around here lol. I'm not saying it's as GHETTO as parts of savannha or Decatur because it's not, but it's pretty damn shitty in some neighborhoods I used to live in. Muggings, beatdowns, knife fights, drive-bys are common. I take it you've never lived in Washington, so I take it you don't know diddly about WAshington, whereas I know at least something about the ATL, Hmm? Am I right?

I've only worked trade shows up there. So I stay long enoguh to eat seafood... Don't consider me a novice about the ATL, as I have relatives that live there too.

As for the white guys I know? Hmm? Where do I start. I know several guys that I used to take brazilian jiu-jitsu with that would cause alot of trouble for ANYONE. MY brother was a Crip and has lived in the worst neighborhood in Seattle since he was a kid and he gets respect. Nobody messes with him. Not saying he's super tough, but he's earned some respect. My buddy hightower was a super cool, but an absolute fuckin psycho if you messed with him. I saw him punk out some hard lookin bro's. I had another buddy that I used to hang out with that I met at my last job. Guy was a super mesomorph. Looked like CAsey Viator physically, just as rugged, but more aesthetic. Natural fuggin powerhouse of muscle and strength and I saw him knock guys off their feet. Literally sent them air-born with one shot. One time he got in a fight with a guy at a frat party and several of the frat guys were big ass football players and 10+ guys jumped on my bro and beat the crap out of him, but the whole time they were beating him, he was on top of the guy that pissed him off beating him. That guy's face looked like hamburger after and my buddy was seriously bruised and bloodied, but he stood up when the frat guys let off because the cops came. The whole time they beat on him he never crumbled over and never stopped pounding the other guy. That's the kind of shit you see in movies man. Probably the toughest, pound for pound naturally strongest guy(he hadn't lifted weights in 3 years since highschool and I coaxed him into going into the gym, the guy full squatted 315 no-no-no style easily, pulled a semi-stiff legged deadlift 405lbs, and seated strict dumbell pressed a pair of 85's for 12 reps. None of these were max performances as he could have lifted more. For a well trained consistent lifter these lifts aren't anything special, but for a first workout in years, that's just plain WRONG lol.

Some people are out of the norm. I have some offshore fishin buddies ( I need to call them) One of them , Clint, got jumped and was hit in the head with a shovel. He went down but got back up and whopped the hell of all three of them. Some of those offfshore fishin guys in pensacola are pretty tough and they are all white. So I am jumping to conclusions some , but you have caught this already.

This was easy for him and having not trained in 3 years and weighing a rock solid 205lbs at 5'10" impressed me more than anything I have ever seen) I've ever met and he was white. He had 2 buddies that were just crazy man. Brothers that frickin would not back down to anyone. Again, straight outta the movies kinda shit with these 2. I seen 1 of them chase a guy through heavy traffic on foot with a basebal bat and proceed to wail on the guy in the middle of moving heavy traffic, with no regard for it whatsoever.

That's some New Orleans shit right there...

MY dad is one seriously tough SOB. 6 foot, and wiry as hell. He's been in 60+ street fights and he only lost a couple of them. His buddy is even tougher than him and a similar build and about as fast as you can imagine. Even at near 50 I saw him throw about 15+ punches in a few seconds. The guy is a walking tornado. My dad vouches for the guy saying he's been in over a 150+ fights back in his hometown in eastern Washington. One damn near all of them and he wasn't fighting wusses. He always got in fights with guys as big or bigger than him that looked tough. One time my dad and him got in an argument and my dad said something to him that pissed him off and while my dad was staring him straight in the eye he caught my dad with a straight right that he didn't even see coming it was so fast and knocked him off his feet. Now my dad's very strong in a wiry way and fast, but this guy totally outclassed him and he knew it. No more power plays after that day between them. I've got many more stories, but you get the idea. I have nothing against black guys. I had more black friends then white friends in high school. Several of my black friends were tough as nails and
I could tell some similar stories about the crazy stuff they did too. I just have a problem with you seeming to think that black guys are tougher or more virile then white men. Obviously your attitude in this is heavily influenced by your upbringing and where you grew up.

As I said, you "have a clue" These people you mention are out of the norm and yes most all white people I know/knew were not like this or my opinion would be different.

 

[SlavikHavik]

I think this takes it...
Black people might have more fast twitch.
But overall atheltics.

Who has won more decatholns in the last 10 years? blacks or whites.
There has been more whites winning decatholns. The world record is currently held by a white man from the czech republic. Infact i think the fact that theres been a negligble number of succsesful black atheletes in the decathlon would speak for itself if you were concerned about overall athletics. Especialyl given the number of black participants in the sport

Regardless, you want to talk about trends? Like that has anything to do with the way things actually are. I see alot of black people in jail too, does that make them naturally violent. I see alot of black peopled dropping out of school, and a society that didnt progress as fast as the west, mid east or oriental (really the rest of the planet) even though they were established there longer. Does that make them less intellegent? Ive also read studies that found blacks to be less intellegent.

Infact you could even guess that the inferior intellegence of blacks is why you dont see them in any really technique heavy sports like gymnastics.

OF course i really dont believe any of this
I believe there are more factors at play than genetic diposition among races.

 

[JohnRobHolmes]

intellence tests are created by people. those people tend to test the knowledge that they know. harvard educated people will have a much different education that the average inner city person, be them of any race. they will have a radially different education than countries that arent "americanized" and "capitolized". people that score lower on IQ tests are not necessarily less intelligent, but are more often just educated differently than the test makers. if a person has never taken a standardized test, how are they going to know the tricks of taking them?

 

[SlavikHavik]

intellence tests are created by people. those people tend to test the knowledge that they know. harvard educated people will have a much different education that the average inner city person, be them of any race. they will have a radially different education than countries that arent "americanized" and "capitolized". people that score lower on IQ tests are not necessarily less intelligent, but are more often just educated differently than the test makers. if a person has never taken a standardized test, how are they going to know the tricks of taking them?

If you were taking tests from the 50's. What your saying was recognized thirty years ago and has since been adressed.

 

[JohnRobHolmes]

If you were taking tests from the 50's. What your saying was recognized thirty years ago and has since been adressed.

geeze!! then i better not take an IQ test if im wrong about that!

 

[SlavikHavik]

Smart move