LivinLarger said:Not that fine IMO, almost nobody dies from GHB alone, alcohol is almost always involved in most deaths.
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Too much aspirin will kill you as well, blame the person not the drug.
LL
You do know you're talking to people that haven't been around here in years?Dr_Down said:The person stating the fact that GHB can be a significant hazard to your health was most likely refering to the recreational use of it. And in those cases, alcohol is more likely then not combined with GHB.
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Your point in mentioning aspirin? Everyone know you can die of drinking too much water in a short period of time... The amount of aspirin you need to actually die, is huge compared to GHB and therefor a statement with no value in this debate.
As someone already commented, blaming the person, not the drug is true ignorance.
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Out of curiosity and lack of knowledge in the field of bodybuilding, I ask if the quoted statement below is the only reason GHB is "popular in these circles"?
Quadsweep:
"It is a zero calorie buzz that is why it is popular in these circles."
This sounds as a reason good enough, and I see a few people conclude that GHB have no value for bodybuilders, but still ONDCP (Office of National Drug Control Policy) state that "GHB is abused for its ability to produce euphoric and hallucinogenic states and for its alleged function as a growth hormone that releases agents to stimulate muscle growth."
And DEA states that "Body builders sometimes use GHB for its alleged anabolic effects."
Again, my knowledge in the field of bodybuilding is lacking, so my question above stands.
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proud13, Im impressed that anyone lacking the skill of understanding the message in fukkenshreddeds initial post, have any education at all. But people and their ignorance never stop surprising me. Neither do the requirement to get higher education..
"I have had friends caught with GHB and the charges were not harsh at all, so I know for a fact (at least in my state) it is not a big thing. If GHB was such a big time thing throughout the US then I'm sure you would hear about it and/or busts in the news all the time."
Just for a referance, the state of Alabama got a minimum of three years in prison and a minimum $50,000 fine if havin more then two ounces (about 60 gram) GHB in your possesion.
The laws might be very different in Florida and that might be some of the reason why Florida has the highest amount of GHB-related deaths, with only one close rival, CA.
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Fukkenshredded, cant see anything to point out about youre initial post, rather then that it was timely and probably a good pointer for those who feel invincible behind an alias.
But I do have a comment to a later statement in this thread.
Fukkenshredded:
"this FOOD, which it is" <--- refering to GHB
This is of course true, but this statement as no value in the defence of GHB...
Princton University has this definition to "food";
"any substance that can be metabolized by an organism to give energy and build tissue"
and therefor the "food"-expression covers a huge amount of substances, legal and illegal.
What has a certain value is the fact that GHB is not a drug under federal law. The Food, Drug and Cosmetics Act defines dietary supplements as foods, and specifically, not drugs. GHB meets three separate provisions of the FDC Act that defines dietary supplements. It is, by federal legal standards, officially, a food.
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CRNT93:
"I thought it was an amino acid"
Nope, as fukkenshredded says its a carbohydrate. Carbohydrates are molecules with the combination of carbon, hydrogen and oxygen.
GHB=C4H8O3, clearly a carbohydrate.
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Personaly I recieve my GHB from the local drugstore, due to my narcolepsy...
This being a legal matter, I assume this sourcerevealing will not get frowned upon by administrators of this forum...
P.S.
Excuse my sucky english. Im a norwegian and cant care to spellcheck..
D.S
genarr3 said:You do know you're talking to people that haven't been around here in years?
genarr3 said:You do know you're talking to people that haven't been around here in years?
No reason to apologize, it was an excellent thread. Nice to see it here again to remind peeps of why we don't want GHB posts.Dr_Down said:Actually, no. Only looked briefly at the date and didnt pay attention to the year it was posted...
Sorry about that.
genarr3 said:No reason to apologize, it was an excellent thread. Nice to see it hear again to remind peeps of why we don't want GHB posts here.
It has nothing to do with moral issues, just the cold dark reality of it being a Schedule I drug.
The DEA lists it as Schedule IDeltreeFitness said:It's schedule III. I have a prescription.
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