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GH vs. GHRP

Ghrp= growth hormone releasing peptide, utilizes natural gh. I

GH is synthetic growth hormone. It's expensive and needs to be run a long time.

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Ghrp= growth hormone releasing peptide, utilizes natural gh. I

GH is synthetic growth hormone. It's expensive and needs to be run a long time.

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Can someone from China sell me GHRP and lie to me and tell me its GH? Would I be able to tell the difference? Would both produce the same results?

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You'd have to run it a long time to tell the difference. I've not done gh but tingly hands are a side.

Ghrp-6 causes insane hunger after the shot, you will feel that it's a funny feeling.

If you're under 40 using pure gh is a waste of time imo unless you're a pro or crazy and rich.

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Results wise you need to run either for some months and combine with good diet and training

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You'd have to run it a long time to tell the difference. I've not done gh but tingly hands are a side.

Ghrp-6 causes insane hunger after the shot, you will feel that it's a funny feeling.

If you're under 40 using pure gh is a waste of time imo unless you're a pro or crazy and rich.

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The last 3 GH I've tried have not caused an increase in hunger nor have caused me to become sleepy.

I tested igf-1 levels with a generic blue top gh, and my igf-1 levels increased by 45 points on 3ius per day.

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GHRP kind of looks like IGF, except more in the vial and like the other peptides, and we all know GH looks like a compressed disc.
 
Can someone from China sell me GHRP and lie to me and tell me its GH? Would I be able to tell the difference? Would both produce the same results?

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You have to have trust ion your supplier. With GHRP 6 you would notice some major increase of hunger.
 
GHRP 6 is crap. It will also make you eat everything in sight and retain water.

GHRP-2 is the same as GHRP-6 but without the hunger. Will also make you retain water.

Both GHRP-6 and GHRP-2 can cause blood sugar issues after extended use (over a month) . Those that use these two without daily glucose monitoring (probably 95% dont do it or even know they should) could have diabetic consequences.

Ipamorelin might be 10-15% less effective as some say but it should not cause any glucose issues after months of use. Should not cause any noticable water retention. SHould still have daily glucose monitoring though to be safe.

Sermorelin should be the same as Ipam but I cannot speak from experience on Serm. But I DO speak from experience on the rest of this post(ipam and ghrp).
 
GHRP 6 is crap. It will also make you eat everything in sight and retain water.

GHRP-2 is the same as GHRP-6 but without the hunger. Will also make you retain water.

Both GHRP-6 and GHRP-2 can cause blood sugar issues after extended use (over a month) . Those that use these two without daily glucose monitoring (probably 95% dont do it or even know they should) could have diabetic consequences.

Ipamorelin might be 10-15% less effective as some say but it should not cause any glucose issues after months of use. Should not cause any noticable water retention. SHould still have daily glucose monitoring though to be safe.

Sermorelin should be the same as Ipam but I cannot speak from experience on Serm. But I DO speak from experience on the rest of this post(ipam and ghrp).


Then how would I know if I'm being sold GH or GHRP-2??

Don't both cause similar side effects such as "bloat"?
 
Then how would I know if I'm being sold GH or GHRP-2??

Don't both cause similar side effects such as "bloat"?

Having never done actual gh yet I cannot say. 4T could probably tell you for sure whether this is right or wrong but I believe with hgh the bloat is only initially and temporary.
 
Having never done actual gh yet I cannot say. 4T could probably tell you for sure whether this is right or wrong but I believe with hgh the bloat is only initially and temporary.

They don't look very similar to me. GH is smaller and more disc like. GHRP is sometimes a crystyline type powder or atleast somewhat compact, but nothing like the pressed disc or waffer form of GH.

 
They don't look very similar to me. GH is smaller and more disc like. GHRP is sometimes a crystyline type powder or atleast somewhat compact, but nothing like the pressed disc or waffer form of GH.


Actually I was talking about HGH bloat being just initially then subsiding.
 
The black one is in no way GH.
It is something other than GH.
 
Rule #1 - Never....EVER.............EVER........buy from china. Not only are you most likely going to get ripped off, you're probably also getting shitty product thats tainted with harmful chemicals due to outdated machinery and lead based coating on everything used in the process.
 
Rule #1 - Never....EVER.............EVER........buy from china. Not only are you most likely going to get ripped off, you're probably also getting shitty product thats tainted with harmful chemicals due to outdated machinery and lead based coating on everything used in the process.

Brother, WE are ALLLLL using stuff that comes from China. All UG powder is from China. GH? China too. What can we do??

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Brother, WE are ALLLLL using stuff that comes from China. All UG powder is from China. GH? China too. What can we do??

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Yeah hey doesn't know as much as he believes. Even Euro UG is ALL made with china powder.


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How can you tell???

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First of all there is a common standard for gh capping and black is so uncommon. Second the material does not look like a compressed disc. It looks like a crystalline structure.


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Rule #1 - Never....EVER.............EVER........buy from china. Not only are you most likely going to get ripped off, you're probably also getting shitty product thats tainted with harmful chemicals due to outdated machinery and lead based coating on everything used in the process.


ive seen rips and hyges come from china testing to 60-70's on serum tests @ 10iu 3hrs post inj. thats US pharm quality.

so what your saying is true if you dont trust the source they are coming from. but you could also get excellent stuff too
 
i have tested pretty much every pep out there in the last 2yrs. Using hyges now @3iu 5 on, 2 off.

i have never been able to get the results with peptides compared to GH. GH is just awesome in every way. some sides your on good stuff. swollen hands, ankles, feet. Being tired, really tired all day. Hair/nails/skin, all will be turned back. skin will appear better, hair/nails will grow way faster. sleep quality will be top notch. holding water.


ghrp 2 makes me hungry. even at low doses. it gives the highest pulse (30-50's on serum tests) but comes and goes in less than 10min. So unless your able to do 4x ED + dosing id go with ipam. it gives 10-20's on tests but holds for 30-40min. no hunger at all also.

GHRH, sem is junk. go with mod GRF 1-29 or cjc 1293, or cjc 1295 no dac. sem is like 3min of pulse, the others are 10-15min. if you are looking at peptides for growth than PEG MGF and IGF LR3 & IGF DES are for you. those are what will cause muscle growth. actual GH will do it too, but you ll need high dose for good growth. but you will get all the other benefits of being on it. MGF/IGF will only cause fatloss/growth. No sleep, recovery.. etc


whatever you pick, GL

id rec you still do quite a bit of reading tho
 
i have tested pretty much every pep out there in the last 2yrs. Using hyges now @3iu 5 on, 2 off.

i have never been able to get the results with peptides compared to GH. GH is just awesome in every way. some sides your on good stuff. swollen hands, ankles, feet. Being tired, really tired all day. Hair/nails/skin, all will be turned back. skin will appear better, hair/nails will grow way faster. sleep quality will be top notch. holding water.


ghrp 2 makes me hungry. even at low doses. it gives the highest pulse (30-50's on serum tests) but comes and goes in less than 10min. So unless your able to do 4x ED + dosing id go with ipam. it gives 10-20's on tests but holds for 30-40min. no hunger at all also.

GHRH, sem is junk. go with mod GRF 1-29 or cjc 1293, or cjc 1295 no dac. sem is like 3min of pulse, the others are 10-15min. if you are looking at peptides for growth than PEG MGF and IGF LR3 & IGF DES are for you. those are what will cause muscle growth. actual GH will do it too, but you ll need high dose for good growth. but you will get all the other benefits of being on it. MGF/IGF will only cause fatloss/growth. No sleep, recovery.. etc


whatever you pick, GL

id rec you still do quite a bit of reading tho


last run for me was 5 months of Ipam. Morning and pre bed. It definatley works. After about 2.5 months my hair was growing out of control. had to shave my head every 36 hrs or so instead of every 72 hrs. Miniscule water retention compared to GHRP-2 which was a lot.
Helped with letting me eat maybe a little more crap than I should have at times and not gaining any fat. Definatley saw an increase in strength and gym endurance within the first two weeks. Deeper sleep on the first night.
 
ive seen rips and hyges come from china testing to 60-70's on serum tests @ 10iu 3hrs post inj. thats US pharm quality.

so what your saying is true if you dont trust the source they are coming from. but you could also get excellent stuff too

Look up some articles on the recent changes to Chinese GH production.

The Chinese have begun using a production process that involves folding the polypeptide in half because its A) much cheaper to produce and B) allows for the very high concentration you mentioned at a very low cost.

The result: the same external results as US pharmacy grade GH. However, this comes along with some very dire internal results including shut down and apoptosis of somatotrpoic cells leading to possibly irreversable ceasing of natural growth hormone production.

Never buy from China.
 
Look up some articles on the recent changes to Chinese GH production.

The Chinese have begun using a production process that involves folding the polypeptide in half because its A) much cheaper to produce and B) allows for the very high concentration you mentioned at a very low cost.

The result: the same external results as US pharmacy grade GH. However, this comes along with some very dire internal results including shut down and apoptosis of somatotrpoic cells leading to possibly irreversable ceasing of natural growth hormone production.

Never buy from China.

Then buy from who?

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Look up some articles on the recent changes to Chinese GH production.

The Chinese have begun using a production process that involves folding the polypeptide in half because its A) much cheaper to produce and B) allows for the very high concentration you mentioned at a very low cost.

The result: the same external results as US pharmacy grade GH. However, this comes along with some very dire internal results including shut down and apoptosis of somatotrpoic cells leading to possibly irreversable ceasing of natural growth hormone production.

Never buy from China.

Lol you and your bs are making me fucking role. What a bunch of horse shit. Respectfully as i can say this. Take your crap to another board homie.


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The black one is in no way GH.
It is something other than GH.

When I stick the syringe (filled with bac water) into the blacktop gh, nothing happens. I have to manually push the water into the vial.

With the bluetop kefei, the water gets sucked right in by itself. I only have to push the water into the vial when its like 2/3 emptied out.

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last run for me was 5 months of Ipam. Morning and pre bed. It definatley works. After about 2.5 months my hair was growing out of control. had to shave my head every 36 hrs or so instead of every 72 hrs. Miniscule water retention compared to GHRP-2 which was a lot.
Helped with letting me eat maybe a little more crap than I should have at times and not gaining any fat. Definatley saw an increase in strength and gym endurance within the first two weeks. Deeper sleep on the first night.



i respect you bro, but @ two wks i didnt see sh!t from peptides....nothing. and i dont think peptides or gh increases strength at all. they increase recovery, protein synthesis, igf serum numbers, etc etc. in the end they increase growth which goes hand in hand with strength.


Tes or even better, tren alone can just sky rocket my strength and it happens very very quickly.

i thik you were seeing better recovery, growing faster and thats what your calling strength. but still in 2wks..... idk
 
Look up some articles on the recent changes to Chinese GH production.

The Chinese have begun using a production process that involves folding the polypeptide in half because its A) much cheaper to produce and B) allows for the very high concentration you mentioned at a very low cost.

The result: the same external results as US pharmacy grade GH. However, this comes along with some very dire internal results including shut down and apoptosis of somatotrpoic cells leading to possibly irreversable ceasing of natural growth hormone production.

Never buy from China.



we dont all have that luxury
 
i respect you bro, but @ two wks i didnt see sh!t from peptides....nothing. and i dont think peptides or gh increases strength at all. they increase recovery, protein synthesis, igf serum numbers, etc etc. in the end they increase growth which goes hand in hand with strength.


Tes or even better, tren alone can just sky rocket my strength and it happens very very quickly.

i thik you were seeing better recovery, growing faster and thats what your calling strength. but still in 2wks..... idk

GHRP, Ipam, whatever...within two weeks (without aas) I notice a difference in endurance, and strength. The majority of people expect way too much from peptides so they think it does nothing. Its not like the feeling of being a few weeks in on a prop cycle at the gym. But its very very noticable. Peptides work faster than HGH. They arent stronger. They just give some of the benefits sooner. But then after a few months you notice other HGH type effects that take time to notice. Like effects on diet.
Not to mention most people that get legit peptides and dont think they work are trying them for the first time while on cycle. This is precisely why I tried them without AAS. So I could feel anything and everything or nothing at all happening.

Yes...between workout recovery was significantly increased. I forgot to include that initially. But when I suddenly feel like I can start a brutal workout all over again after an hour and the only thing thats changed is a week or two of Ipam then its pretty obvious. As for strength, I'm not talking a tren like sudden increase in strength. I'm talking a noticable enough increase to know something is happening other than just a natty increase.
Adding 50mgc of T4 for two months towards the end based on the "HGH without running T4 is a waste" theory improved the overall experience even more. Yes only 50mcg with peptides because its not HGH. If it were 4iu or so of HGH a day I would have tapered up to 100mcg.
 
Lol you and your bs are making me fucking role. What a bunch of horse shit. Respectfully as i can say this. Take your crap to another board homie.


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I've got a better idea, how about you go fuck yourself? Respectfully of course.

Give me one way that you know your growth from China is 1) even GH to begin with and not HCG (like so many get ripped off with all the time) or any fucking water soluble powder for that matter and 2) isnt filled with lead and other shit chemicals like everything made in china is?

Then again you probably couldnt care less. I know you're kind - you think that if you laugh hard enough in the face of something that should cause serious concern that it will just go away. The same kind that think that if you cant see it and dont want to believe it, it wont hurt you.
 
I've got a better idea, how about you go fuck yourself? Respectfully of course.

Give me one way that you know your growth from China is 1) even GH to begin with and not HCG (like so many get ripped off with all the time) or any fucking water soluble powder for that matter and 2) isnt filled with lead and other shit chemicals like everything made in china is?

Then again you probably couldnt care less. I know you're kind - you think that if you laugh hard enough in the face of something that should cause serious concern that it will just go away. The same kind that think that if you cant see it and dont want to believe it, it wont hurt you.

If my GH was really HCG I would get gyno, bloat, mood swings and bigger balls. None of that has happened while on GH.

It has made me feel calmer and sleep much better with vivid dreams. My hair and nails grow too fast! Lol

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If my GH was really HCG I would get gyno, bloat, mood swings and bigger balls. None of that has happened while on GH.

It has made me feel calmer and sleep much better with vivid dreams. My hair and nails grow too fast! Lol

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Then as far as you can tell your GH is real, and if it is then thats great for you.

I'm not saying that real GH cant come out of China, I'm saying that I dont believe for a second that its U.S. pharm quality nor am I convinced that I'm not going to wake up one day and be deathly ill because for 10 years I've been injecting trace amounts of industrial cleaning fluid and lead based paint into my system.
 
ok guys lets respectfully disagree and debate each other in this thread, or im shut it down...you dont have to curse or put each other down to get your point across..people that have a weak arguement usually do that !
 
Then as far as you can tell your GH is real, and if it is then thats great for you.

I'm not saying that real GH cant come out of China, I'm saying that I dont believe for a second that its U.S. pharm quality nor am I convinced that I'm not going to wake up one day and be deathly ill because for 10 years I've been injecting trace amounts of industrial cleaning fluid and lead based paint into my system.

haha this is as rediculous as your other posts. You have no idea. First you say don't buy GH from China, then you say it's full of lead, then a third time you say it also may have industrial cleaning fluid. You have no idea what you are talking about. But you humor me with your lack of knowledge in this area. Good luck to you bro.
 
Then as far as you can tell your GH is real, and if it is then thats great for you.

I'm not saying that real GH cant come out of China, I'm saying that I dont believe for a second that its U.S. pharm quality nor am I convinced that I'm not going to wake up one day and be deathly ill because for 10 years I've been injecting trace amounts of industrial cleaning fluid and lead based paint into my system.

After reading your few posts on this thread I think you are just a kid who has too much time on his hands with google. How old are you?
 
haha this is as rediculous as your other posts. You have no idea. First you say don't buy GH from China, then you say it's full of lead, then a third time you say it also may have industrial cleaning fluid. You have no idea what you are talking about. But you humor me with your lack of knowledge in this area. Good luck to you bro.

I said all of that in the first post. Clearly you didn't research your attack thoroughly, probably like you haven't researched the shit you put in your body thoroughly.

Ah and there's the statement we were all waiting for, the telltale sign of a person who has no argument other than "you're dumb" - the good old 'br0 ur younger than me so I know more about everything than you do'.

For the record, I'm 21. I'm a full time student with a full time job. That plus the time I spend in the gym, on these forums, and living my life in general, you probably have more time on your hands than I do - you just choose to use it telling other people how incredulous their arguments are rather than actually looking into anything that you should find alarming.

I couldn't even tell you if you'll find anything about it on google because I've never googled it. I wrote a research paper on it after my old man's pharmaceutical company began outsourcing to China. You'll find it on REAL search engines - academic search engines - like JSTOR.

Why I'm even bothering telling you this, I dont know. But I tire of internet arguments. Most of them are like talking to a wall - this one is no exception. Unsubbed.
 
I said all of that in the first post. Clearly you didn't research your attack thoroughly, probably like you haven't researched the shit you put in your body thoroughly.

Ah and there's the statement we were all waiting for, the telltale sign of a person who has no argument other than "you're dumb" - the good old 'br0 ur younger than me so I know more about everything than you do'.

For the record, I'm 21. I'm a full time student with a full time job. That plus the time I spend in the gym, on these forums, and living my life in general, you probably have more time on your hands than I do - you just choose to use it telling other people how incredulous their arguments are rather than actually looking into anything that you should find alarming.

I couldn't even tell you if you'll find anything about it on google because I've never googled it. I wrote a research paper on it after my old man's pharmaceutical company began outsourcing to China. You'll find it on REAL search engines - academic search engines - like JSTOR.

Why I'm even bothering telling you this, I dont know. But I tire of internet arguments. Most of them are like talking to a wall - this one is no exception. Unsubbed.

You said bits in several posts not all in your first post and in each post you got more and more outrageous with your ludicrous comments. I can repost every one of them for you since you seem to have forgotten or are unable to look.
Good guess on your age or you show your age with your week argument.
Yes, your being 21 has everything to do with your knowledge base. Imagine a 21 YO who knows everything there is to know about GH. Now there is the ultimate joke for this thread. LOL
Then you throw in the "I wrote a paper" haha, you are killing me bro.
And then there is the "my dad's pharmaceutical company" Hahaha.
Listen younger one please do something for yourself!
And lastly stop attacking me personally, you have been warned by a mod once and as he stated it makes your argument look very week. EVEN WEEKER THAN IT ALREADY WAS.
I have a life and I have a love of GH. However, my love of GH didn't start blindly. I did months of research before I ever purchased GH and that was years ago. I have done years of research about it since and I love guys like you who come on here with your nonsensical claims but none so far as extreme as yours. Cleaning solvents and lead paint? Do you know how many millions of dollars in capital it takes to construct a facility that can produce GH? Do you know how many factories there are in Asia that can produce GH? Do you know who Mr. Lei Jin is?
Lastly do you know what Jintropin, Hygetropin pinwheel tops and Hygetropin name on tops all have in common?
Maybe you impressed your ignorant teachers with your paper or they are already sold on your claims of horrendous working conditions, but I an educated individual with a manufacturing back ground in specialty aluminums, one used to encase spent nuclear fuel rods, that the Chinese still cannot replicate and I know a little bit about things too.
So stop calling me names, stop thinking you know more than anyone else and grow up please.
 
Seeing alot of valuable info here and would like some opinions. I'm 5"3 and still have growth plates open at 22. About 8 years ago I ran hgh through a doctor to gain some height but ended up stopping the treatment due to joint pain... Man I wish I had not stopped. Long story short I am looking to at least attempt to gain any height possible. Would ghrp, ipam, hgh, igf,cjc mod grf be best? Peptides are of course easier for me to get a hold of but could same results be reached? Any help is greatly appreciated. Edit* sorry didn't mean to bump old thread. If I need to make my own I can no problem.
 
last run for me was 5 months of Ipam. Morning and pre bed. It definatley works. After about 2.5 months my hair was growing out of control. had to shave my head every 36 hrs or so instead of every 72 hrs. Miniscule water retention compared to GHRP-2 which was a lot.
Helped with letting me eat maybe a little more crap than I should have at times and not gaining any fat. Definatley saw an increase in strength and gym endurance within the first two weeks. Deeper sleep on the first night.

what dose did you use with the Ip?

this is the only peptide that really interests me, due to it's minimal effect on cortisol, prolactin, etc...
 
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