Hey I was wondering when did you guys determine that you were at your genetic limit, height weight, BF% (before AS)?. Currently i am 5'9 198 15%BF all natural i think that i am at my limit. Training 5 yrs eating 200 grams protein while food plenty of cals/rest, all sorts of training regims and barely any gains last year...if any. I was up to 210 but BF was getting out of hand. Just now thinking of AS, probably a cutting cycle first. I would just like to see what others interpreted as a natural genetic limit.

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